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| 1. Author: GG Riva Date: Fri 15th Mar 2024. 06:50 Got this article in my news feed this morning; https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/travel/uk-tourists-majorca-malaga-tenerife-28815876?int_source=amp_continue_reading&int_medium=amp&int_campaign=continue_reading_button#amp-readmore-target It looks like some popular holiday destinations have decided that the money they make from some British tourists is far outweighed by the alcohol fuelled problems they cause....  Not your average Sunday League player. Reply |
| 2. Author: buffy Date: Fri 15th Mar 2024. 07:26 Surely it’s the pubs and organised trips that are to blame - not the tourists who buy their alcohol? Boioze cruises have been a thing for decades abroad - usually organised by holiday reps and local businesses. ”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019” Reply |
| 3. Author: jake89 Date: Fri 15th Mar 2024. 07:30 A great example of the media spinning a story to invoke a reaction. It appears they`re referring to ALL tourists, not just British ones. What they`re experiencing is similar to tourist hotspots like Edinburgh where local people are being pushed out by greedy landlords wanting short term let`s rather than long term tenants as they can make a lot more money. Reply |
| 4. Author: LochgellyAlbert Date: Fri 15th Mar 2024. 09:40 Very noticeable in Tenerife where workers cannot get accommodation thus inducing a shortage along with the lack of UK workers due to Brexit. I understand that a lot of families in Las Americas/Christianos area were evicted this week due to apartments being let out to tourists. The water shortage in the Canaries shows no signs of improvement, not helped by the highest recorded winter temperatures. Reply |
| 5. Author: jake89 Date: Fri 15th Mar 2024. 10:55 I can`t remember where I read it but there was a big thing about Brits who have paid off their mortgage are considering just buggering off out the UK because it sucks so badly now. Probably the same people who voted these idiots in and voted for Brexit. Reply |
| 6. Author: veteraneastender Date: Fri 15th Mar 2024. 13:18 The autonomous government of the Balearics brought in restrictions across a few targeted areas of Mallorca and Ibiza last year to clamp down on anti social behaviour, largely caused by Brits, following escalating complaints from locals and other tourists. Some All Inclusive hotels in these areas were only allowed to serve a maximum of 5 (or 6 ?) drinks, so called "Booze Cruises" and "Happy Hours" were banned, likewise BOGOF drink promotions. "I can`t remember where I read it but there was a big thing about Brits who have paid off their mortgage are considering just buggering off out the UK because it sucks so badly now. Probably the same people who voted these idiots in and voted for Brexit." Since the lunacy of Brexit, Spain has been obliged to restrict how many days Brits (and other non EU citizens) can stay in the country - a maximum of 90 in a 180 day period. Then you need to leave the country before starting such a cycle again - that can complicate moving there. It`s not as black and white as that though - there are ways to settle, however for the casual tourist that is the situation. Post Edited (Fri 15 Mar 13:35) Reply |
| 7. Author: Paralex Date: Wed 20th Mar 2024. 21:36 I`ve got a good Spanish friend called Marcos, who worked in Glasgow for a few years. He lives in Madrid and is entertainingly opinionated about certain Spanish issues. For instance he is a big Real Madrid fan and doesn`t share my opinion that Sergio Ramos is one of the biggest thugs ever to don a football shirt. But that apart, he also thinks the UK should return Gibraltar to the Spanish, the reason being that its very near to the Spanish mainland. My response to him was, that`s a good point Marcos but maybe we could do a swap deal for the Canary Islands since they are nowhere near Spain. Problem solved. Reply |
| 8. Author: parsfan Date: Thu 21st Mar 2024. 00:54 They certainly seem much keener to get their hands on Gib than they are on giving Ceuta & Melilla back to Morocco. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The universe is ruled by chance and indifference  Reply |
| 9. Author: Paralex Date: Thu 21st Mar 2024. 07:47 Yes, very true parsfan and on the Sergio Ramos point, I notice that he plays for Sevilla now. Seemingly he is second in the all time list for red cards with 29. What a guy!!! You can`t deny he`s got a bit of vava voom. Think that`s French though. Reply |
| 10. Author: jake89 Date: Thu 21st Mar 2024. 08:12 Gib is physically joined to Spain. If going with islands then the UK example would surely be Guernsey? Can you imagine how Little Britons would feel if Spain claimed Cornwall? 😂 Reply |
| 11. Author: veteraneastender Date: Thu 21st Mar 2024. 09:19 Hitler wanted Spain to invade Gib during WW2, or at least allow German forces passage through from occupied France to do so. Franco being ever pragmatic was unwilling to throw his country into the war on the Axis side - although he did permit an all volunteer Spanish "Blue Division" to fight the Soviets until 1943. They were officially withdrawn when the tide of war started to favour the Allies. Hitler stated that he would prefer a visit to the dentist for extractions rather than have to negotiate with El Caudillo again. Post Edited (Thu 21 Mar 17:03) Reply |
| 12. Author: red-star-par Date: Thu 21st Mar 2024. 09:28 Paralex, Thu 21 Mar 07:47 I remember when Sergio Ramos broke through as a kid at Sevilla, they had a fairly formidable centre back hard men pairing of Pablo Alfaro and Javi Navarro. Pablo used to often frequent the same riverside bar as I did on a Sunday night, a surprisingly nice chap despite the disciplinary record. I thought he must have been close to the red card record, but it seems he only amassed 18 of them despite it seeming to me like he headed for an early bath every time I seen him play Reply |
| 13. Author: Paralex Date: Thu 21st Mar 2024. 09:40 Maybe in that case Jake89, we could throw in Cornwall as a bargaining tool with Gibraltar, which by all accounts is just a big chunk of barren rock with hostile apes throwing stones at the tourists. After all Cornish pasties are overrated but their yellow ice cream is rather delicious, I suppose. But having read VEE`s historic view of Gibraltar, maybe, for sentimental reasons it`s worth keeping so let`s just offer them Cornwall for the Canary Islands. I`ve holidayed in both and for me, the Canaries edges it for climate and tourist appeal. Please excuse the verbal garbage, I`m away for a walk up the Champs Ellysee now. Reply |
| 14. Author: Parboiled Date: Thu 21st Mar 2024. 09:55 In 2002 Gibraltar voted 98.9% to retain full British sovereignty. Spain might have another go when they’ve all died off.. Reply |
| 15. Author: Parboiled Date: Thu 21st Mar 2024. 10:09 …btw Paralex, I’ve eaten Cornish pasties in Cornwall. My aunt down there baked them about a foot long…nothing shop bought has ever come near! Reply |
| 16. Author: veteraneastender Date: Thu 21st Mar 2024. 10:44 If Gib had fallen to Axis control in WW2 it would have been an absolute catastrophe for the Allies - no access to the Mediterranean from the west making it almost impossible to support Malta which was a key base. The North African campaign against Rommel could not have been supplied. Difficult to see how the Allies could have won. Reply |
| 17. Author: DBP Date: Thu 21st Mar 2024. 10:59 Did Gibraltar not vote by a similar margin to remain in the eu? Westminster didn’t seem too bothered about their view and the implications that it might have on them back then Reply |
| 18. Author: Paralex Date: Thu 21st Mar 2024. 11:02 Yes indeed VEE, strategic at that time, and possibly into the future too. Your post recalls to mind some of the incredible effort and sacrifice of a few generations before us, to bring about relative peace in our days. Without wishing to bring up any modern controversy, I must admit to being slightly put out by an article in the Yad Vashem (holocaust museum) in Jerusalem which blamed the Christian West for the holocaust. When I think of the sacrifice of life and limb in my own wider family, to defeat the Nazi regime, that sentiment didn`t go down to well. Aye indeed DBP, they didn`t take too much notice of us either and without being flippant, it was an absolute beast getting through passport control in Charles de Gaule Airport yesterday. Seemingly Red Star Par, there was a dude by the name of Gerardo Bedoya, a Columbian defender who amassed an astonishing total of 46 red cards. He holds the record. At 29 Sergio, in second place was a mere beginner. Post Edited (Thu 21 Mar 11:14) Reply |
| 19. Author: LochgellyAlbert Date: Thu 21st Mar 2024. 16:24 veteraneastender, Thu 21 Mar 10:44 My father was on the Malta convoys, a German stuka put a bomb down his ships funnel, crew abandoned ship and were picked up by another RN vessel. That ship then suffered the same fate, he was rescued by another vessel and also mentioned in dispatches! Incredible bravery, RIP father. Reply |
| 20. Author: veteraneastender Date: Thu 21st Mar 2024. 17:00 On the topic of red cards - wasn`t our own home grown Willie Johnston somewhere up there in that particular Hall of Shame ? A domestic record - 22 ? Lochgelly Albert "My father was on the Malta convoys, a German stuka put a bomb down his ships funnel, crew abandoned ship and were picked up by another RN vessel. That ship then suffered the same fate, he was rescued by another vessel and also mentioned in dispatches! Incredible bravery, RIP father." I think mentioned in despatches reports may be available here. https://www.thegazette.co.uk/awards-and-accreditation/content/100325 Malta convoys were indeed a very dangerous duty. Post Edited (Thu 21 Mar 17:02) Reply |
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