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1. Author: Bletchley_Par Date: Thu 12th Jun 2025. 02:22 Topic Originator: jake89 Date: Wed 18 Feb 23:02 We already have an aging population as a result of low birth rates because people can`t afford to raise children. Why would we want to discourage breeding? Who do pensioners think is paying their pensions, care and free bus passes? Yes, they may have worked their whole lives but they`re now living too long and there aren`t enough young workers to pay for them. This is even more true in Scotland thanks to a lot of young people leaving for jobs while pensioners come here to retire. [b]How scarce were the elderly in the British past?[/b] "Today those aged 60 and over make up slightly more than 1 in 5 of the UK population. It is tempting to believe that in the distant past, because there were fewer older people, they enjoyed a greater cachet." So 1 in 5 over 60 in 2020. https://www.campop.geog.cam.ac.uk/blog/2024/10/10/how-scarce-were-the-elderly/ [b]"An Ageing Population": 1978 by Vida Carver and Penny Liddiard, Open University Press.[/b] "At the beginning of this century (the 20th century, so from 1901) approximately 7% (of the UK) is 60 or more, today the proportion is 20%" So 20% over 60 in 1978. https://archive.org/details/ageingpopulation0000unse_w1e6/page/n1/mode/2up I think this "bro trust me" narrative of the "we have an ageing population" deserves some further scrutiny. And that`s before we get to the discussion of age versus are we living healthier discussion or what is burdening the NHS now compared to 50 years ago. Post Edited (Thu 19 Feb 00:40) Reply
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1. Author: Bletchley_Par
Date: Thu 12th Jun 2025. 02:22

Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Wed 18 Feb 23:02

We already have an aging population as a result of low birth rates because people can`t afford to raise children. Why would we want to discourage breeding? Who do pensioners think is paying their pensions, care and free bus passes? Yes, they may have worked their whole lives but they`re now living too long and there aren`t enough young workers to pay for them. This is even more true in Scotland thanks to a lot of young people leaving for jobs while pensioners come here to retire.

[b]How scarce were the elderly in the British past?[/b]
"Today those aged 60 and over make up slightly more than 1 in 5 of the UK population. It is tempting to believe that in the distant past, because there were fewer older people, they enjoyed a greater cachet."

So 1 in 5 over 60 in 2020.

https://www.campop.geog.cam.ac.uk/blog/2024/10/10/how-scarce-were-the-elderly/

[b]"An Ageing Population": 1978 by Vida Carver and Penny Liddiard, Open University Press.[/b]
"At the beginning of this century (the 20th century, so from 1901) approximately 7% (of the UK) is 60 or more, today the proportion is 20%"

So 20% over 60 in 1978.

https://archive.org/details/ageingpopulation0000unse_w1e6/page/n1/mode/2up

I think this "bro trust me" narrative of the "we have an ageing population" deserves some further scrutiny.

And that`s before we get to the discussion of age versus are we living healthier discussion or what is burdening the NHS now compared to 50 years ago.

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Date: Sun 15th Jun 2025. 12:44

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