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Topic: Academy
61. Author:  da_no_1        
Date: Tue 9th Apr 2024. 23:39

Honestly. Yeah.

Do you think this is good news or not?

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"

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62. Author:  Rigger Al        
Date: Tue 9th Apr 2024. 23:40

pars4life1, Tue 9 Apr 23:02

1. It’s a 3G pitch, despite clubs and manufacturers like to claim 4g does not exist.

2. A huge amount of the narrative on the training ground is around it being a top facility, it sounds incredible to deny that but guess I’m making stuff up and don’t even support the club 😂.

3. If stating facts is moaning then I’m moaning and will continue to do so, live with your head in the clouds if you want but the real world is where I live


4 and 5g exist

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63. Author:  pars4life1        
Date: Tue 9th Apr 2024. 23:53

Of course it’s good news, I never said it wasn’t, just that I wasn’t going to get excited over it until the project is backed up with the facilities that may give us a competitive advantage.

4 and 5g don’t exist beyond marketing nonsense. The G’s in artificial are no infill, sand infill, rubber infill. There has been significant technological improvements to the original rubber infill designs, but they are all still based off it, until that changes we are on versions and not a generational jump.



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64. Author:  da_no_1        
Date: Tue 9th Apr 2024. 23:57

Got to start somewhere. Would you rather they didn`t bother?

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"

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65. Author:  parsmad68        
Date: Wed 10th Apr 2024. 06:48

I was talking with a colleague in Germany last night about the direction of football and Germany strongly believing in developing talent and it is highly valued in Germany. I think in Scotland we have more aligned thoughts and perceptions based upon the English model, but Germans just don’t want football to be run by people with no “skin in the game” (reference to the people who have buckets of cash to come in and leave when they want). This is a very big discussion in Germany as they already see the issues in the Champions league or this Super League.
I also am interested in the long terms plans of DAFC, but I get the feeling that my perceptions have been on the English model and we need to start to think more about how German’s run their football clubs. I certainly didn’t understand that bond that exists to last night between the clubs and their fans as a unified entity.

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66. Author:  Dave_1885        
Date: Wed 10th Apr 2024. 09:13

pars4life1, Tue 9 Apr 23:53

Of course it’s good news, I never said it wasn’t, just that I wasn’t going to get excited over it until the project is backed up with the facilities that may give us a competitive advantage.

4 and 5g don’t exist beyond marketing nonsense. The G’s in artificial are no infill, sand infill, rubber infill. There has been significant technological improvements to the original rubber infill designs, but they are all still based off it, until that changes we are on versions and not a generational jump.


If you cant tell the difference between a 3G pitch and a 4G pitch you clearly haven’t played on them very often……..

Another positive about this now being up and running is that we now will no longer need to rent out other facilities, meaning saving money and not needing to rely on that facility being able to accommodate us.

Remember just 2/3 years ago we were training on the cricket field at McKane Park, and now have our own, unique facility.

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67. Author:  jake89        
Date: Wed 10th Apr 2024. 11:13

pars4life1, Tue 9 Apr 23:53

Of course it’s good news, I never said it wasn’t, just that I wasn’t going to get excited over it until the project is backed up with the facilities that may give us a competitive advantage.

4 and 5g don’t exist beyond marketing nonsense. The G’s in artificial are no infill, sand infill, rubber infill. There has been significant technological improvements to the original rubber infill designs, but they are all still based off it, until that changes we are on versions and not a generational jump.


Wrong.
You`re getting confused with 4G+ pitches not being accredited yet. Sand is 2G, rubber is 3G. 4G is no infill required. The only thing they have in common is being artificial.

It technically won`t affect Scotland but the plan is to ban rubber infilled 3G pitches by 2031.

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68. Author:  OzPar        
Date: Wed 10th Apr 2024. 11:34

I know it`s going back a long time, but was our plastic pitch at EEP 1G or maybe pre-G? Whatever it was, it wasn`t too popular. Things have progressed since then.

Incidentally, last week, I was chatting to the manager of our local sports centre, and he mentioned 3G and 4G. At first, I thought he was talking about mobile phones, but I got the impression that he felt 4G would be better suited to indoor rather than outdoor facilities.



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69. Author:  jake89        
Date: Wed 10th Apr 2024. 11:49

The original pitch was from XL Turf but I don`t recall it being graded.

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70. Author:  EastEndTales        
Date: Wed 10th Apr 2024. 11:55

jake89, Wed 10 Apr 11:49

The original pitch was from XL Turf but I don`t recall it being graded.


Thr 2nd surface was much better. I`m no pro, but did try them both and it was night and day

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71. Author:  LEGEND85        
Date: Wed 10th Apr 2024. 12:04

I think for the update regarding the training facilities was definitely a positive and I think most Pars fans would appreciate it`s not the finished article.

Two things in a week from the club the fanzone and the train facilities both positive in my opinion.

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72. Author:  Raymie the Legend        
Date: Wed 10th Apr 2024. 12:46

Topic Originator: EastEndTales like
Date: Wed 10 Apr 11:55

Quote:

jake89, Wed 10 Apr 11:49

The original pitch was from XL Turf but I don`t recall it being graded.

Thr 2nd surface was much better. I`m no pro, but did try them both and it was night and day




The first pitch was awful. It was plastic tiles glued around the edges meaning if you came down on the edge of a tile, you knew about it

The second pitch was far better - more like the ones you see today, but by then the jury had us convicted and sent down!

I can confirm that EET, is no pro :-)



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73. Author:  Dave_1885        
Date: Wed 10th Apr 2024. 13:05

Raymie the Legend, Wed 10 Apr 12:46

Topic Originator: EastEndTales like
Date: Wed 10 Apr 11:55

Quote:

jake89, Wed 10 Apr 11:49

The original pitch was from XL Turf but I don`t recall it being graded.

Thr 2nd surface was much better. I`m no pro, but did try them both and it was night and day




The first pitch was awful. It was plastic tiles glued around the edges meaning if you came down on the edge of a tile, you knew about it

The second pitch was far better - more like the ones you see today, but by then the jury had us convicted and sent down!

I can confirm that EET, is no pro :-)


Ironically both pitches were worse than the one laid at Dalgety Bay at the time 😂 I mind we had rugby training at EEP during the winter with the first pitch I think - wasnt too keen on hitting the deck on it.

To put it into perspective of how advanced astros have become, when it was laid Im sure the surface at DHS was graded high enough to “host” a Champions League final - pretty high standard if you ask me!

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74. Author:  cammypar 1995        
Date: Thu 11th Apr 2024. 08:45

There is a compelling case that youth systems work and that`s great. The issue I think the club finds itself is we sit 1 hour away from both Glasgow teams, both Edinburgh teams, amongst others. We don`t exactly have a history of players coming through our system and making a career in a higher level than we have been?

Of course if we improve our facilities then we should hopefully be more attractive to younger players although I guess proof will be 5 or so years away until we can say if it was worth the investment or not.

c'mon the pars

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75. Author:  jake89        
Date: Thu 11th Apr 2024. 10:17

There are bonuses to being in the central belt though in terms.of academies. Under 18s will typically be living with their parents so somewhere like Dunfermline/Rosyth is pretty accessible to people travelling from town and cities around the area.

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76. Author:  LochgellyAlbert        
Date: Thu 11th Apr 2024. 11:08

A lot of clubs are picking up players now at 8/9 years of age, how they spot them at that age I don`t know.

I`ve seen a seasoned pro(now retired)at that age and thought he would never make it as a player!

Has Foden not been at Manchester City since a very young age?

Bringing them in when young may build up some loyalty to the club, Pars Foundation seems to be going down that route!

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77. Author:  Alter Ego        
Date: Thu 11th Apr 2024. 11:36

As far as I know there is Celtic,Rangers,Hearts,Hibs and Dundee Utd scouts down at Pitreavie at the weekends looking at players. I haven`t seen a Dunfermline scout down there.
Having our own training hub is going to be excellent to attract the young players in but we need to be seen looking at players etc.

Mon the Pars!

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78. Author:  Playup_Pompey        
Date: Thu 11th Apr 2024. 11:39

"We don`t exactly have a history of players coming through our system and making a career in a higher level than we have been?"

probably scewed by us being part of (and heavily funding) a centralised "Fife Academy" which produced a few players who when it came to moving Pro chose Raith but then had pretty decent careers. Guys Like David Bates going onto Rangers/Hamburg.



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79. Author:  buffy        
Date: Thu 11th Apr 2024. 12:58

Apologies if I’m not understanding this correctly but why would our own scout be at our academy? Surely they would be at other clubs’ training facilities scouting? Like the clubs listed in AE’s post?

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80. Author:  cammypar 1995        
Date: Thu 11th Apr 2024. 14:50

I think he is meaning watching teams like crossgates etc etc who play in the leagues at pitreavie Buffy .

I was talking to my boss, her laddie had trials at st Johnstone , livi and rangers she didn`t even know Dunfermline had an academy as she`s never seen a scout at their games. She asked the coach and he was the same. He has Just signed with st Johnstone.

c'mon the pars

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