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Topic: ICT going into administration?
81. Author:  Raymie the Legend        
Date: Wed 23rd Oct 2024. 17:38

Not sure why sacking Dunc benefits them ? Was he not offering to work for free ?




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82. Author:  wee eck        
Date: Wed 23rd Oct 2024. 17:46

I`m not sure Administrators are allowed to engage anyone for free, Raymie. Didn`t Joe Cardle offer to play for free when we went into Admin but he was let go?

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83. Author:  veteraneastender        
Date: Wed 23rd Oct 2024. 18:16

Big Dunc would only have been willing to work free in the short term in an effort to stave off administration - surely ?

Now that it is confirmed I doubt he would have been willing to continue pro bono.

He would have been one of the bigger contracts at the club - so the administrators would look to cut him - maybe by mutual consent ?



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84. Author:  jake89        
Date: Wed 23rd Oct 2024. 19:01

I`d assume the administrators view that contracts say they`re paid £X and would presumably be the case they would eventually wish to return to that amount.

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85. Author:  Stanza        
Date: Wed 23rd Oct 2024. 20:27

Even if someone isn`t taking his contractual wage, presumably the Administrator would still have to pay indirect costs like National Insurance, etc if he remained an employee.

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86. Author:  Alter Ego        
Date: Wed 23rd Oct 2024. 21:52

Administrators will rip the club apart to get any money back…

Mon the Pars!

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87. Author:  da_no_1        
Date: Wed 23rd Oct 2024. 22:00

Alter Ego, Wed 23 Oct 21:52

Administrators will rip the club apart to get any money back…


Agreed. It`s what they do.

Guess which club are the only one in history not to lose any players upon entering administration?

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88. Author:  McCaig`s Tower        
Date: Wed 23rd Oct 2024. 22:31

I think Stanza will be correct.

I would imagine that even if Ferguson notionally worked "for nothing" the administrators would still be obliged to pay other employment costs such as NICs and Pension contributions, and would likely have to reserve against a possible claim at a later stage for unpaid wages.

Even if there were no legal requirements, the administrators would be foolish to incur such expenses even on a contingent basis, IMO.



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89. Author:  wee eck        
Date: Wed 23rd Oct 2024. 23:05

The Administrators are obliged to get the best financial outcome for the creditors so it is inevitable the best-paid employees are the main victims of lay-offs. That`s what happened when we went into Admin and we were left with a very inexperienced squad which meant we struggled to get results.

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90. Author:  parsmad68        
Date: Thu 24th Oct 2024. 06:31

If we roll back to when the club wanted to be based in Kelty for player recruitment and also for training, etc. will this be back on the table or probably too far gone for that.
I also think back to when this was discussed and whether any alleged savings would have staved off administration for any longer.
I genuinely wonder how football finances actually get through accountant audits.

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91. Author:  cammypar 1995        
Date: Thu 24th Oct 2024. 06:57

Ferguson took a wage cut but never said he would work for free. ICT fans at my work says he was on £4.5k a week.

c'mon the pars

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92. Author:  da_no_1        
Date: Thu 24th Oct 2024. 07:34

working for free link

big dunc working for free link

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"

Post Edited (Thu 24 Oct 07:48)

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93. Author:  Malcolm Canmore        
Date: Thu 24th Oct 2024. 07:50

Hardly a vulture, red star, when a player has been sacked I’m sure he’d welcome a new offer.

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94. Author:  wee eck        
Date: Thu 24th Oct 2024. 15:48

Players Adam Brooks, Flynn Duffy, Wallace Duffy, (not related I think) and Cameron Ferguson (son of Dunc) have been let go and goalie Jack Newman returns to his parent club, Dundee Utd. Veteran striker Billy McKay and first team coach, Scott Kellacher, have been put in charge of the team.

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95. Author:  Bandy        
Date: Thu 24th Oct 2024. 16:03

Are the released players around to sign for (and play for) new clubs outside of the transfer window? I seem to recall there`s some rules to protect them in scenarios such as this one?



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96. Author:  veteraneastender        
Date: Thu 24th Oct 2024. 16:06

Is part time football on the agenda ?



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97. Author:  Playup_Pompey        
Date: Thu 24th Oct 2024. 16:55

super caley go tits up just like glasgow rangers



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98. Author:  Indiapar        
Date: Thu 24th Oct 2024. 18:16

They aren`t the first and won`t be the last. Until they change the league structure to enable football to become an entertainment spectacle again where teams arent frightened to open up and atrack, crows will dwindle. The sport is becoming more a war of attrition rather than something to look forward to on a Saturday. Gone are the days when clubs could rely on supporters loyalty. They want to be entertained.

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99. Author:  Rigger Al        
Date: Thu 24th Oct 2024. 18:22

Indiapar, Thu 24 Oct 18:16

They aren`t the first and won`t be the last. Until they change the league structure to enable football to become an entertainment spectacle again where teams arent frightened to open up and atrack, crows will dwindle. The sport is becoming more a war of attrition rather than something to look forward to on a Saturday. Gone are the days when clubs could rely on supporters loyalty. They want to be entertained.


grounds were packed when we used to play home and away ,Playing the bigger teams brought the fans in .As been mentioned before if a possibility of playingva top team 4 or 6 times in a season fans loose interest and pick and choose when to attend ,especially wit todays cost

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100. Author:  TAFKA_Super_Petrie        
Date: Thu 24th Oct 2024. 20:21

They`ve had to pay over the odds in wages for years now due to their location to try and attract players or even fight off Ross County and McGregors` money when in for the same player so i`m surprised how long they`ve maintained such a decent standard before it started to wrong.

Worked beside an ICT fan who said they owned a few flats locally, which is nothing unusual these days, as an incentive for young players moving up to the area but they were sold off in last year or so when they started to feel the pinch.

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