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| 1. Author: saltonsgonagetu Date: Wed 23rd Oct 2024. 10:36 A new initiative from the SFA for grassroots football ,"If in doubt sit them out " for teams that don`t have medical staff at their games. This really needs brought in to the top level as well, Saturday for example Morton player goes down in the box, holding his head, has a quick look up to see if we are still on the attack and waits on the ref to stop the game for a head knock . He then gets up ,no check at all continues to play, this is blatant cheating , if players who go down holding their head , had to go off for a 5 minute head injury assessment, to be replaced by a sub for the time they are off, this may make the cheating aspect hopefully lessen. Also on Saturday Chris Hamilton was knocked unconscious, and was allowed to play on , he also should have had to go off for an HIA with a replacement on till he returns .  Reply |
| 2. Author: wee eck Date: Wed 23rd Oct 2024. 11:01 There`s no doubt going down `injured` is now a tactic used to stop the game or slow down the momentum and rhythm of the opposition when they are on top. Sadly, coaches will always exploit any change to the rules or laws to benefit their teams but it is rarely to the benefit of spectators. One innovation that has helped though is the `multiple ball` system which has generally helped to speed up the game and reduce time-wasting. Reply |
| 3. Author: StevenPar77 Date: Wed 23rd Oct 2024. 11:02 Yeah, the Morton one some people will say was a great example of shithousery, but to me, it is blatant cheating knowing fine well that the referee has no choice but to stop the game. The fact that he got straight up and ran should have been sufficient justification for the referee to book him. As for Hamilton, I would be very surprised if he was unconscious given the injuries last season and that McPake seems to have a safety first approach to those things. Although I caveat that with bringing players back from injury too soon. Reply |
| 4. Author: da_no_1 Date: Wed 23rd Oct 2024. 11:10 I`d be worried for Owen Moffat given he went down 3 times with "concussion" he must be a doubt for this weekend..... "Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark" Reply |
| 5. Author: Playup_Pompey Date: Wed 23rd Oct 2024. 11:12 all well and good but in reality wont happen. As a ref first thing I ask a player when I get to him is "are you dizzy/do you feel sick" fortunatly have only had 1 player who really was disorientated following a clash of heads. Teams wont take off their "best" players as a precaution  Reply |
| 6. Author: saltonsgonagetu Date: Wed 23rd Oct 2024. 11:30 Playup_Pompey, Wed 23 Oct 11:12 No doubt teams will not take there best players off, but the rules should state any player going down holding his head , must be removed from the pitch ,with a replacement allowed to take their place, until or if they are allowed back on ,but they should be made to be off ,for at least 5 minutes ,for the safety off the player, or just to stick it up the cheats . Reply |
| 7. Author: DBP Date: Wed 23rd Oct 2024. 11:52 Think there’s two questions, one is about the impact of injuries (feigned or otherwise) on the flow of the game… the other is about long term player well being. I agree that it shouldn’t be up to the coaches/manager or even the player themselves to decide, as they will all likely want to stay on the park - but who then? World be good to understand what other impact sports do, eg I think players go off for medical assessment in the nfl regardless? is it not the case that it’s often the potential of a second knock on the head (or headers) that actually cause damage? Reply |
| 8. Author: Bandy Date: Wed 23rd Oct 2024. 11:53 All for this rule change. Reply |
| 9. Author: DA-go Par Adonis Date: Wed 23rd Oct 2024. 11:58 DBP, Wed 23 Oct 11:52 In rugby league, certainly the NRL, there is an independent doctor who can call for a player to be removed for 10 minutes for a head injury assessment. A temporary sub goes on in their place and the player can return if they pass. If they fail, they can`t play again for 11 days. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I love it when we go sell Kevin Nisbet, He's gonna pay for everyone this season. Reply |
| 10. Author: parsmad68 Date: Wed 23rd Oct 2024. 13:27 Matty Todd had a little episode of down he went to full sprint when the ref played play on. Seems to be part of our game also. But Morton’s antics were in a different level. Reply |
| 11. Author: wee eck Date: Wed 23rd Oct 2024. 13:37 If you read the `Match thread` you`ll discover an opinion that we allowed Morton to waste time and feign injury. They were blameless apparently! Reply |
| 12. Author: DBP Date: Wed 23rd Oct 2024. 15:14 Think your interpretation may be a little literal? Was it not that we allowed that to become a tactic? Think the point was that had we translated possession into s as couple of goals, then feigning injury/general time wasting wouldn’t have been a tactic they would employ Reply |
| 13. Author: Paralex Date: Wed 23rd Oct 2024. 15:29 Only real way to stop the blatant cheating, is to take the initiative by sticking the ball in the net and always be at least one goal ahead of your opponents. Owen Moffat was also using the cramp option to waste time. But at least they were scared enough of our attacking threat that they had to resort to cheating to take a point. Reply |
| 14. Author: wee eck Date: Wed 23rd Oct 2024. 15:39 `Victim blaming` reaches dafc.net! It was only a matter of time I suppose, especially if we are the victims. Reply |
| 15. Author: DBP Date: Wed 23rd Oct 2024. 17:59 That’s competitive sport… you do what you can to disrupt their tactics, impose your own game plan and ultimately dictate what they can and can’t do. And in the context of any game, the scoreline will dictate behaviour (yours and theirs Reply |
| 16. Author: Buster_Brown Date: Wed 23rd Oct 2024. 18:08 Teams will always find way to slow the game down, or kill the game. Since the pass back rule was brought in, clubs have become even more adventurous and although the head knock situation on Saturday became a huge frustration, let’s be honest, if you change that rule then it’ll become something else. I think we’re better placed now than we have ever been to deal with actual concussion and head injuries, the fact that players use the rule to kill play is just something we have to accept is going to happen…..and enjoy when it’s us doing it, because we will Reply |
| 17. Author: Rusty Shackleford Date: Wed 23rd Oct 2024. 18:19 I think it`s fair to point out that we`re easier than other teams to play against. Only really Chris Kane who I`d say is streetwise enough. Reply |
| 18. Author: veteraneastender Date: Wed 23rd Oct 2024. 18:27 The temporary substitution sounds an interesting scenario - but how would that work if a team has used all its subs at a point where a player has a head knock, real or otherwise ? If an already substituted player were allowed to return to the game, even for a short time, couldn`t that lead to abuse of such a special privilege ? Post Edited (Wed 23 Oct 19:11) Reply |
| 19. Author: CrossPar Date: Wed 23rd Oct 2024. 19:33 wee eck, Wed 23 Oct 13:37 That`s not what it said as you well know. You can`t help being a tit can you? Reply |
| 20. Author: wee eck Date: Wed 23rd Oct 2024. 19:38 Read what you posted! `we played into their hands by allowing them to feign injuries and waste time...` I can understand why you`re now disowning your own words but why deny that`s what you posted? Reply |
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