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Topic: Play on the counter
21. Author:  Big G Ball        
Date: Sun 26th Jan 2025. 07:22

I dislike getting beat and football is a results industry where managers must adapt and play a formation, side and style to win. Maybe managing his entire career as a boss against teams who are no better then juniors in the majority of cases has created a mindset where he hasn`t had to change as teams could be best described as rotten, but for sure that won`t work with us so he will have no option next week but to change



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22. Author:  GJS93        
Date: Sun 26th Jan 2025. 09:49

press interviews before and after Kelty games parsfangaz, folk might go but that was Kelty, well Tidser`s post match video rules that one out for now.



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23. Author:  Berkey        
Date: Sun 26th Jan 2025. 11:20

How can we play on the counter? We don’t have any midfielders who can run with the ball and KRH aside there’s no pace in the team. There’s no quality to pick out that key pass either.

We don’t have enough of anything to get any formations to work. We’re mostly relying on the opposition having an off day to pick up wins.

Tidser needs to to find ways to get something in the middle of the park and fast.

The post below replying to me is by one of .nets finest champions of mediocrity!

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24. Author:  bigdonnie        
Date: Sun 26th Jan 2025. 11:53

when john comes back from holiday we need to get hiom to team up with tidser to help him get better results

donald mcneil

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25. Author:  dafc-chris1        
Date: Sun 26th Jan 2025. 12:16

The reason Tidser was picked as manager was his style of football. It would be ridiculous to change this just because we had a poor performance

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26. Author:  Murphy        
Date: Sun 26th Jan 2025. 12:42

But we have just went through months of McPake attempting this style of football with this squad of players. Why would you expect a different result just because the name on the manager’s door has changed.



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27. Author:  kozmasrightfoot        
Date: Sun 26th Jan 2025. 13:20

As much as I`m willing to give the new manager time, I really don`t like his attitude about playing the same way all the time. We don`t have the players for it and every good manager should be willing to change playing styles snd formation depending on the opponent or how the game is going.

You need to be able to mix things up.

That interview did not fill me with confidence.

Pars fan.
Magpies fan.
Mens tennis fan.
Alternative rock fan.
Not a fan of much else.


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28. Author:  onandupthepars        
Date: Sun 26th Jan 2025. 13:28

This>>

Ref: Murphy Sun 26 Jan 12:42

`But we have just went through months of McPake attempting this style of football with this squad of players. Why would you expect a different result just because the name on the manager’s door has changed.`


Exactly. But we`ve got MT now. Feels like more of "grin and bear it."



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29. Author:  KnebworthPar        
Date: Sun 26th Jan 2025. 13:32

But they’re not the same styles. Yes both about playing out from the back however McPake much more possession based, move the ball about, move opposition out of position. Tidser much more dynamic, higher tempo, look to hurt the opposition by speed and catching them out of position.

Whether we have the players for either style a different discussion but there are distinct style differences.

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30. Author:  onandupthepars        
Date: Sun 26th Jan 2025. 13:36

Ref: kozmasrightfoot, Sun 26 Jan 13:20


`....That interview did not fill me with confidence.`

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I`d rather he said, "Well that`s a right f*** up. There`s gonna be changes, it`s results we need. We saw the improvement against Falkirk and Partick, we`re gonna focus on what we`ve done well. I`m the manager of DAFC now, whatever I did before is irrelevant. We`ve got to make it work and fast."



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31. Author:  Bertie Paton        
Date: Sun 26th Jan 2025. 13:38

Pars make life difficult by coming up with these pigeon hole ideologies. They are just trying to over complicate things.

Why do we have to be a youth developing club and have an age profile for our players?

Why do we have to play a certain type of football regardless of our opponent?

Can we not play a style of football that suits each opponent we play and be a bit more flexible. Can we not sign a wide range of players, that are the best for a certain position we`re looking to fill. Regardless of their age. Why are we making life difficult for ourselves having to stick to defined structures all the time.



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32. Author:  Never10yairds        
Date: Sun 26th Jan 2025. 14:10

Well said Bertie Paton.



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33. Author:  NMCmassive        
Date: Sun 26th Jan 2025. 14:24

Bertie Paton, Sun 26 Jan 13:38

Pars make life difficult by coming up with these pigeon hole ideologies. They are just trying to over complicate things.

Why do we have to be a youth developing club and have an age profile for our players?

Why do we have to play a certain type of football regardless of our opponent?

Can we not play a style of football that suits each opponent we play and be a bit more flexible. Can we not sign a wide range of players, that are the best for a certain position we`re looking to fill. Regardless of their age. Why are we making life difficult for ourselves having to stick to defined structures all the time.


You’re basically asking the players to be perfect at everything if we change the way we play every week.

The management team will decide on a strategy that they want to implement and then they’ll decide tactically how to implement the strategy.

Tactics can change week to week depending on who you’re playing, what players are available etc etc but generally your strategy won’t change or will evolve slowly throughout time.

In terms of why a small club in Scotland needs to develop youth players… that’s pretty obvious isn’t it?

COYP

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34. Author:  Bertie Paton        
Date: Sun 26th Jan 2025. 15:03

``You’re basically asking the players to be perfect at everything if we change the way we play every week.``

Where did I say they need to perfect? They need to be more flexible yes.

``The management team will decide on a strategy that they want to implement and then they’ll decide tactically how to implement the strategy.``

So we stick rigidly to playing one way. It`s easy to change your strategy if something is not working. John McLaughlin did a good job at it.

``In terms of why a small club in Scotland needs to develop youth players… that’s pretty obvious isn’t it? ``

No- Smaller clubs than us are doing much better in this league without prioritising youth. Youth development is expensive and we are hardly selling our youth for large sums of money. We have produced youth players that are barely good enough for the Scottish Championship. It`s sound good in some peoples head but in reality it doesn`t really work for most clubs. So no. Not obvious.



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35. Author:  NMCmassive        
Date: Sun 26th Jan 2025. 17:58

Bertie Paton, Sun 26 Jan 15:03

``You’re basically asking the players to be perfect at everything if we change the way we play every week.``

Where did I say they need to perfect? They need to be more flexible yes.

``The management team will decide on a strategy that they want to implement and then they’ll decide tactically how to implement the strategy.``

So we stick rigidly to playing one way. It`s easy to change your strategy if something is not working. John McLaughlin did a good job at it.

``In terms of why a small club in Scotland needs to develop youth players… that’s pretty obvious isn’t it? ``

No- Smaller clubs than us are doing much better in this league without prioritising youth. Youth development is expensive and we are hardly selling our youth for large sums of money. We have produced youth players that are barely good enough for the Scottish Championship. It`s sound good in some peoples head but in reality it doesn`t really work for most clubs. So no. Not obvious.


Are you honestly saying the club should get rid of its youth set up?

COYP

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36. Author:  Bertie Paton        
Date: Sun 26th Jan 2025. 19:58

``Are you honestly saying the club should get rid of its youth set up?``

I wouldn`t prioritise it. I would spend our budget first on first team players that can make us better. Not who fits a certain age profile. Just like , Falkirk, Livi, Partick, Ayr etc who are doing much better than us.



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37. Author:  GG Riva        
Date: Sun 26th Jan 2025. 20:47

Bertie Paton, Sun 26 Jan 19:58

``Are you honestly saying the club should get rid of its youth set up?``

I wouldn`t prioritise it. I would spend our budget first on first team players that can make us better. Not who fits a certain age profile. Just like , Falkirk, Livi, Partick, Ayr etc who are doing much better than us.


Even during the halcyon days of the 60s, we were a selling club, Bertie, which I suspect you know, from your username. We balanced the books by selling a star player each season and replacing him with a promising lad from the Juniors or lower league. No way can we suddenly become a club buying quality players, unless our new owners have money to burn and don`t mind giving it to the Pars. Besides, established players will demand high salaries our annual income could not sustain.

We`ve been there and done that.....



Not your average Sunday League player.


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38. Author:  McCaig`s Tower        
Date: Sun 26th Jan 2025. 21:42

Certainly the academy model should be questioned. That doesn’t mean it’s not value for money, or the right approach, though.

My issue is that I’m not convinced that Scottish Football in its current form is sustainable. I would cite the number of insolvencies as evidence. It seems to be that a number of clubs are spending money they don’t have, either as an expensive hobby for some rich donor (AKA “Investor”) or in the (largely mistaken) belief that there are riches to be gained if only they could get to the appropriate level.

So the argument would go that getting promotion to the Premier League might be worth £1m. If so, it might be worth a team like Ayr forking out an extra £500k to win promotion. The problem is that Livi might spend £600k. Or spend £500k better. Or that Falkirk might win the division anyway. In which case, they’ve just lost money.

As for academies, there are various ways of getting new players – younger players developed at other, bigger clubs (such as KRH, Otoo), smaller clubs (Connor Young), our own academy (Todd, McCann, Sam Young, Taylor Sutherland), older players perhaps beyond their peak (Kane, O’Halloran) or decent players from similar clubs who want a change/signing on fee or whatever (take your pick). There may be optimal combinations in terms of spend, or age, or experience (and maybe these wonderful analytics can help target signing policy better) but it’s not clear to me whether it’s better to spend money on Rangers developing the player, or Edinburgh City, or ourselves. Sometimes its cheaper to grow your own food, sometimes it’s better to go to Tesco.

However it does seem clear that pursuing a series of short term polices (and particularly binning your manager every couple of years) has not proved startingly successful.



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39. Author:  NMCmassive        
Date: Sun 26th Jan 2025. 22:53

Ach it’s bloody hard work being a Pars fan eh!

COYP

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40. Author:  Par Dan        
Date: Mon 27th Jan 2025. 00:23

I fear for Tidser . Unless we gets results in the next few games he’ll be under pressure. Completely undeserved pressure btw.
The squad McPake has left him with his rotten .

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