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Topic: Tippy Tappy Tosh
1. Author:  TroonPar        
Date: Thu 10th Apr 2025. 06:07

Think this is worth a read. One person’s view on how football is being ruined. Couldn’t agree more given what we see every week on TV and our recent experience with the McPake/Tidser style of football.

https://scottishfsa.org/the-men-who-are-ruining-scottish-football/?fbclid=iwzxh0bgnhzw0cmteaar5etx6vbcjqdejwhhteiufcrjdinvgt0ygikob-5ueaujazwpnk29cn3jlcfa_aem_-cdi51_6nwclsgbjrvjkcw

Bill Kinnear

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2. Author:  Parplod        
Date: Thu 10th Apr 2025. 06:50

Very accurate assessment. States the blindingly obvious when he says that only the top players have the necessary skill levels to play this way. Alarmingly young kids are being coached in this nonsense.



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3. Author:  Buster_Brown        
Date: Thu 10th Apr 2025. 07:02

I think the author is spot on in all that he says there

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4. Author:  Never10yairds        
Date: Thu 10th Apr 2025. 07:05

Been listening to Sam Allardyce speaking against tippy tappy on his podcast for a while. Football should above all be entertaining. That means goals, chances and crunching tackles.

I’ve never been so bored watching football as I was this season.

So glad we are done with that crap now and at least try to get it up the park and make something happen.



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5. Author:  Buster_Brown        
Date: Thu 10th Apr 2025. 07:34

Never10yairds, Thu 10 Apr 07:05

Been listening to Sam Allardyce speaking against tippy tappy on his podcast for a while. Football should above all be entertaining. That means goals, chances and crunching tackles.

I’ve never been so bored watching football as I was this season.

So glad we are done with that crap now and at least try to get it up the park and make something happen.


I listen to it as well and support Sam’s views. As those who know me will know, my other team is West Brom as it’s my Dads team and he was brought up in the area (actually heading down there this weekend). Anyway, I remember when Sam was in brief charge and his football was so refreshing, despite the relegation from the EPL (he simply ran out of games).

People have this view that he’s a dinosaur that plays hoof ball, but you couldn’t be further from the truth. It’s direct and it’s getting the ball into areas to play, whilst being defensively sound.

Sadly, his time at the club was during the covid “behind closed doors” period but it’s the most excited I had been, watching WBA since the Hodgson era, when the club finished 7th in the EPL, playing in a very similar way.

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6. Author:  Parfect69        
Date: Thu 10th Apr 2025. 08:07

Even top players down south struggle with this. Seen lots of goals conceded due to players playing out from the back.

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7. Author:  Jeffery        
Date: Thu 10th Apr 2025. 08:34

The link didn`t work for me so here is an amended version that did:-



Agree with the article although I don`t watch the Premiership so don`t know about the incidents referenced.

Football has become boring as players are coached not to take individual risk. There seems fewer mavericks these days as players are coached to pass, pass, pass, and to only shoot from certain higher xG areas.

This part of the article reminded me of us under Tidser, who claimed to want the players....`to play football the right way`. I can`t imagine he learned that style on the streets growing up:-

There is nothing exciting about watching your defenders pass the ball slowly back and forth; nothing exciting about the ball being passed from the wing, back inside, then back outside, ad nauseam.  The time it takes to get the ball up the field to the areas of the pitch where a goal might be scored, means that modern, super-fit teams have two banks of players defending their goal almost all the time.  It is to quote a fan who sits near me at McDiarmid Park, “boring as ****.”

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8. Author:  Bertie Paton        
Date: Thu 10th Apr 2025. 08:48

Cannot bear this sytle of football. The sooner the better this fad runs it`s course.

Can young managers not think for themselves anymore, instead of trying to copy Pep.



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9. Author:  da_no_1        
Date: Thu 10th Apr 2025. 08:50

Excellent read

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"

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10. Author:  Playup_Pompey        
Date: Thu 10th Apr 2025. 09:08

" Alarmingly young kids are being coached in this nonsense."

The way to make it work must be for it to be "natural". Just now we have guys who have played one way for a decade all of a sudden trying to change "overnight" to a different style. If its coached from young ages then its natural and some of the mistakes made by players who havent been used to it are diminished.



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11. Author:  neils        
Date: Thu 10th Apr 2025. 09:10

I hate it, one of the reasons I don`t watch the Champions League etc anymore.

Dreadful stuff, added to the list, anyone who quotes "Pep" or "Poch" or note how Man City etc does things should be imprisoned!

Most clubs don`t have billions to spend on the best players, so can`t play that way.



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12. Author:  Parsweep        
Date: Thu 10th Apr 2025. 09:39

neils, Thu 10 Apr 09:10

I hate it, one of the reasons I don`t watch the Champions League etc anymore.

Dreadful stuff, added to the list, anyone who quotes "Pep" or "Poch" or note how Man City etc does things should be imprisoned!

Most clubs don`t have billions to spend on the best players, so can`t play that way.


Speaking of the champions league .
I watched PSG last night and would love to see them win the thing .
Fast attacking football with the whole team involved .
Get this slow passy passy possession based game binned .

Bobvo

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13. Author:  Buster_Brown        
Date: Thu 10th Apr 2025. 10:04

neils, Thu 10 Apr 09:10

I hate it, one of the reasons I don`t watch the Champions League etc anymore.


Likewise, and the EPL (although I do watch the occasional MOTD from time to time)

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14. Author:  saltonsgonagetu        
Date: Thu 10th Apr 2025. 10:25

TNT sports pundits raving about PSG attacking style, especially 2 wingers who take men on instead of passing inside or backwards .
Sorry, but Mr Tidser your football ideals are outdated and you have been left behind .



Post Edited (Thu 10 Apr 10:25)

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15. Author:  parathletic        
Date: Thu 10th Apr 2025. 10:36

Horses for courses. Trying to play out from the back on a terrible pitch in winter in Scotland is asking for trouble, even the top players would struggle.
Bournemouth have played the most long balls in the EPL this season and I always think they are an entertaining watch. Spurs have played the fewest long balls and are having a nightmare because they are predictable and Ange`s lack of adaptability has been shown up.

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16. Author:  dafc-chris1        
Date: Thu 10th Apr 2025. 10:38

Football is all about results and is not about entertaining people

Post Edited (Thu 10 Apr 10:41)

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17. Author:  king lad        
Date: Thu 10th Apr 2025. 10:53

I`d disagree on the champions league a bit, certainly in the last couple days I don`t think we`ve seen much of the Pep style of play. Quite a lot of fast tempo attacking football on show with plenty of opportunities.

As has been said though, these managers (such as Tidser and Grant in our case) insisting on passing out from the back and around the back incessantly and slowing the pace down at the Scottish championship level is total nonsense.

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18. Author:  MessiPar        
Date: Thu 10th Apr 2025. 14:27

No one can say the great Barcelona team with Xavi and Iniesta were a boring watch. Well, there always was someone who complained about it to be boring but that`s just putting it down to people not being able to appreciate great passing football. These people will never learn and hence Scottish/British football will always be the laughing stock of world football, imo.



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19. Author:  kelty_par        
Date: Thu 10th Apr 2025. 14:59

One can MessiPar and with good cause. When you are miles better than your opponents, win 3-0 and pass the ball around like you`re playing a 90 minute game of Rondo it becomes a pointless exercise and - yes - boring to watch. When they were up against the better teams domestically and in Europe and had to do something special to break down a defence or create angles nobody had seen until the pass was made then yes, it was interesting and occasionally exciting. Technically they were exceptional but they weren`t always exciting. A lot of Barcelona games in that era were the kind of matches you`d have on in the background as wallpaper, they weren`t much watch spectacles.



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20. Author:  MessiPar        
Date: Thu 10th Apr 2025. 15:08

Of course one can, kelty par. In the same manner that one can always tell these people that they are neanderthals and can`t appreciate great football with the inevitability that they will always say it`s boring football and not that they don`t know enough about the beautiful game to appreciate it



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