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| 1. Author: GG Riva Date: Wed 23rd Apr 2025. 06:46 I`ve started quite a few threads naming individual players on this forum down the years. If memory serves, they`ve all been appreciative of a particularly good performance by these players. I just don`t see the point in starting a thread to highlight a player`s deficiencies. It just invites a "pile on" from like-minded posters and then leads to arguments with others who object to their negativity. The current thread about Lewis McCann is a case in point. It has topped 200 replies and shows no sign of stopping......  Not your average Sunday League player. Reply |
| 2. Author: Ahoy!Ahoy! Date: Wed 23rd Apr 2025. 07:46 I agree to an extent but it is a forum. Not everyone is going to agree with everyone’s view on players. I personally get the impression that some posters and blinkered by the fact players have been here a while and have been okay in the past (league one). It’s no secret that the last few years have been terrible, our relegation to League One, yes we got promoted, and then fought relegation the last 2 years. In that we’ve been through 2 managers in McPake and Tidser but results have been the same. While we can say the tactics didn’t suit us etc….the common denominator the whole time has been the players. How many in that squad were here when we got relegated for example? Okay Lennon has come in and improved a poor team but we’re still miles off looking like a team who can challenge at the top end. If we want to move on and actually start challenging at the right end of the table then like it or not, we need a better quality of player all over the pitch and throughout the squad in general. Reply |
| 3. Author: brian Date: Wed 23rd Apr 2025. 07:50 Yes, BUT there are a some suspects who revel in abusing players. It is uncalled for and totally unnecessary. The players can`t defend themselves. It`s embarrassing for me to see it and I feel in cases, said posts should be removed. ____________________ contact: email me File Share: https://share2.co.uk ParsTV: https://ParsTV.co.uk Reply |
| 4. Author: red-star-par Date: Wed 23rd Apr 2025. 07:55 They are usually quite good, but the ones on Lewis McCann that have kept creeping up almost incessantly over the last year or so are pretty much just online bullying by the usual suspects. That`s one of the worst things about being a Pars fan, the way the boo-boys all tend to have a target and just won`t give him a break. It`s no surprise when their confidence is shot. It`s a phenomenon I have seen down the years from Fanzines, to at the game, to internet forums. Usually it`s been players who do have something about them, but for some reason (they don`t run about like a headless chicken, they don`t slide about on their backside) their card is marked from the word go. I`ve seen it with players from Trevor Smith, to Justin Skinner, from Ross Millen to Joe Chalmers and Lewis McCann. If you go up the back of the Norrie you can see them in the flesh, a gormless, vacant selection of losers, ready to boo Chalmers on to the pitch, shout nonsense at his every touch, I`ve even heard him get blamed for things when it wasn`t even him. They just have to have a scapegoat and they move around from one to the next It`s unfortunate that the hollowest vessels make the most noise. My take on it is that they are most likely losers in life. They have nothing going on in their lives except the football. They see some local guy living their dream and they hate him for it. They will be sitting there. alone, in their bedroom in their mother`s house, no chance of a girlfriend, crap job, tiny tadger. The jealousy, the rage, all just a projection of their own inadequacy Reply |
| 5. Author: Ahoy!Ahoy! Date: Wed 23rd Apr 2025. 08:02 So we’re four posts in and it’s turned into bullying our own fans. This is the reason posts and threads turn into disasters and bickering back and forth in my opinion. Reply |
| 6. Author: cammypar 1995 Date: Wed 23rd Apr 2025. 08:06 In fairness the McCann post that was created by me was about his injury. c'mon the pars Reply |
| 7. Author: Dandy Warhol Date: Wed 23rd Apr 2025. 08:43 I just see wholly inadequate so called men revelling in bashing a professional sportsman. I don`t wanna go down like disco. Reply |
| 8. Author: GG Riva Date: Wed 23rd Apr 2025. 08:51 cammypar 1995, Wed 23 Apr 08:06 So you did, Cammy. I hadn`t realised that.No blame can be attached to you for the way the thread deteriorated. Normally, these threads are started with an opinion on the named player`s (lack of) ability, which naturally leads to some posters siding with the OP and others disagreeing and then we get the same tedious arguments. Not your average Sunday League player. Reply |
| 9. Author: CitizenPar Date: Wed 23rd Apr 2025. 09:12 It`s not just Lewis who gets it, either. Deniz, MOH, Joe Chalmers, Craig Wighton and others have all had more than their fair share of abuse. Unfairly, in my opinion. Reply |
| 10. Author: saltonsgonagetu Date: Wed 23rd Apr 2025. 09:13 Ahoy!Ahoy!, Wed 23 Apr 07:46 Agree with all the above  Reply |
| 11. Author: RossF Date: Wed 23rd Apr 2025. 09:36 Sad to say but some players just aren’t good enough and that applies to every club. Players are more likely to be criticised than praised (that’s the typical attitude of people all over the world!) The McCann thread is split with people who want him to stay and people who’d happily see the back of him. That’s usually the purpose of a forum - for debate. If people have reasons for/against a player then that’s fair enough. For someone to just say he’s rubbish and not back it up with reasons is a bit pointless. The same goes with people who only berate posters for their opinions rather than argue the point against. Reply |
| 12. Author: Higgys Mohawk Date: Wed 23rd Apr 2025. 10:20 At one point I thought they should rename the website LewisMcCann.net! Every thread ends up about him Reply |
| 13. Author: Raymie the Legend Date: Wed 23rd Apr 2025. 11:55 RossF, Wed 23 Apr 09:36 I suppose I fall into another category? I’ll criticise a player for their performance in a particular game, but what I won’t do is continually lambast a player whilst he is giving of his best. I believe that serves no purpose. The opposite is also true. I’ll give praise when it’s merited.  It`s bloody tough being a legend Ron Atkinson - 1983 Post Edited (Wed 23 Apr 11:57) Reply |
| 14. Author: oapar Date: Wed 23rd Apr 2025. 12:15 How many of our fans have thought about the words they use on this forum to appraise a player`s game or ability? Continually slating any player is bound to have an effect on the way they approach the game. No player starts a game with the intention of playing badly, it is their livelihood after all, and like us all in the work place, some days are better than others. The same contributors who use harsh and often unnecessary language when things have not gone well, are conspicuously absent when we have a good win. It is almost as if they use this forum to vent their spleen about all that is bad in their own lives and don`t give a thought that they are now making others feel really uncomfortable and incompetent too. Sometimes the old adage `If you have nothing encouraging to say, say nothing at all` would be far more appropriate. Don`t get me wrong when results are not going our way it makes for a miserable Saturday evening, however I see no point in slating some players, who will already feel bad, just to make me feel like a superior being. Reply |
| 15. Author: RossF Date: Wed 23rd Apr 2025. 13:38 I wasn`t trying to categorise people Raymie. Like you (I’d imagine) I love to see every player perform to a standard each week but that’s not how it works and football is a sport that causes more debate than anything. It’s great seeing players who struggle to shine each week playing a blinder, which is why I was chuffed for Mehmet and Chalmers during our league one campaign. Clay is another one who has been poor but looks a much different player under Lennon, which could give him a chance of a contract next season. The squad is awful at the moment though and I cannot see much debate with that. I’m fully expecting most of the out of contract players to leave in the summer. I just hope we can add some serious quality and bring the feel good factor back to East End next season. The only ones I’d keep out of contract are Mullen, Comrie, Hamilton, Jake Sutherland and possibly Clay. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Mehmet and Fisher available for transfer also. Reply |
| 16. Author: wee eck Date: Wed 23rd Apr 2025. 14:22 The fact that you are now suggesting Clay may be worth a new contract because Lennon has found a place for him just shows how fickle fans are in assessing players and why we should leave it to the professionals. It looked liked Lennon also valued Chalmers` attributes and he might have featured in the last few games if he hadn`t suffered an injury. It will be interesting to see who gets offered contracts if Lennon stays on. He may not have seen some in a match situation if they have been injured or out on loan. Incidentally, a thread on the East End Bounce forum previewing Saturday`s game against Airdrie has attracted a few comments suggesting Lennon hasn`t done enough to warrant an extended contract! Reply |
| 17. Author: sonofpetrie Date: Wed 23rd Apr 2025. 14:49 This is a genuine question....is there really "abuse" on this forum. It`s not like it`s unregulated. This is not Twitter. I`ve read many a thread with people stating who they think are and aren`t good enough, but red and black cards aside I don`t think I`ve read any. Now there are certainly some derogatory opinions but this is professional football. There will always be people watching that don`t think player x is good enough. I am afraid that`s just the world we live in. "The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary" Reply |
| 18. Author: RossF Date: Wed 23rd Apr 2025. 16:09 Not at all wee eck. I’ve always hated that assumption that football fans can’t judge a footballer just because they haven’t played. Many can, it’s the small minority that jump to conclusions and write players off too quickly. The example with Clay shows that certain managers are capable of getting more out of players than others. Clay was poor under McPake, didn’t feature at all under Tidser and has been a strong performer under Lennon. Fans can be fickle about a lot of things but this example is proof that our current manager is playing certain players to their strengths. Bene for example looks much more comfortable in a back three with the other two centre backs making up for his lack of pace. I completely disagree with the statement about Lennon not doing enough. With the current squad, it was always going to be a hard task to keep us up. I firmly believe we will improve this summer and be up the right end of the table next season with Lennon in charge. Reply |
| 19. Author: wee eck Date: Wed 23rd Apr 2025. 16:30 I wasn`t suggesting fans can`t assess a player because they haven`t played the game - simply that managers see players up close and in training and might see some attributes that suit the way they want to play. All fans have to go on are performances in matches. A lot of the criticism on here is unqualified though with no reservations. I find the dismissal of certain players as `League 1` standard particularly unfair. I must admit I found the comments about NL breath-taking but they just illustrate how difficult some fans are to please. I hope he stays and look forward to seeing how he changes the style of play and deals with the next transfer window. Reply |
| 20. Author: Wotsit Date: Wed 23rd Apr 2025. 16:38 Repeatedly accusing someone of being bad at their job is abusive IMO. At least one poster here is guilty of singling out one individual player (who is a real person not just a football player, in case we are forgetting) and berating them at every opportunity. That`s definitely abuse, especially given the borderline obsessive nature of their attention. Like folk have said, it`s fine to point out that someone had a bad game and I completely agree. Saying that you think a person wasn`t at their usual standard professionally is completely different to piling on or constantly berating someone and pointing out their failings at every opportunity, whilst staying silent when they do something positive. The enemy travels by private jet, not by dinghy. Reply |
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