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| 21. Author: Higgys Mohawk Date: Sat 6th Jun 2026. 10:34 A move to Plymouth or Blackpool would make more sense given that they would likely offer higher wages, and if the move is successful he could step up to the Championship. I’ve resigned myself to the fact that he’ll be away and wish him all the best. Cannot begrudge him moving when everyone, fans and management included, had him on the release-list before Christmas. Reply |
| 22. Author: wee eck Date: Sat 6th Jun 2026. 10:50 His sudden emergence as an effective centre back has worked for us on the park but caiught us unawares as regards his contract as it probably came too late to allow us to pre-empt his departure by offering him an earlier deal. If English League or Scottish Premiership clubs are alerted it`s difficult to compete, especially if they don`t need to pay a transfer fee. Reply |
| 23. Author: The Boss Date: Sat 6th Jun 2026. 10:55 Hunter78, Sat 6 Jun 06:51 No reality check for me. It’s a higher level. I do agree with you on Lennon not being able to attract players though. He’ll have to get moving quickly though as I can’t see us spending another two seasons in the championship running at such a loss. Need to get out of this division fast with that sort of debt. Other teams moving quickly. I like black and white (dreaming of black and white) You like black and white Run run away Reply |
| 24. Author: wee eck Date: Sat 6th Jun 2026. 11:02 The Championship teams that have been active so far just seem to be signing the `usual suspects` from the merry-go-round. I don`t see them having gained any advantage from doing their business early. Reply |
| 25. Author: neilholland999 Date: Sat 6th Jun 2026. 11:03 wee eck, Sat 6 Jun 10:50 I`m not sure his emergence is that sudden. I think he`s played in something like 27 games this season, most of which have been at left centre back. We obviously don`t know if/when the club first offered him a new deal, but if it was up to me I would have done it at least 6 months ago. But alas, we are where we are 😐 Reply |
| 26. Author: Indiapar1 Date: Sat 6th Jun 2026. 11:08 I think realistically we need to be looking at finishing top of this division this year. I agree we may have been caught out by the 1 year deal arrangement, that assumes that players will have some incentive to improve under coaching then have some loyalty at the end of the season to sign another deal. Whether they do so us a complex mix of personal preference, future career prospects, money, personal circumstances etc. In terms of NL not being able to attract players, I would qualify that by saying, he won`t attract the wrong player. He clearly wants to succeed and take the Pars up, so he will want winners and players who want to progress from the championship to the premiership G Wardrope Reply |
| 27. Author: DA-go Par Adonis Date: Sat 6th Jun 2026. 11:14 neilholland999, Sat 6 Jun 11:03 6 months ago was the beginning of December. Absolutely no-one was suggesting that we offered Ngwenya a new contract at that point. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Equal rights and justice in this time Reply |
| 28. Author: neilholland999 Date: Sat 6th Jun 2026. 11:20 Ok 6 months was perhaps an over exaggeration, but I still think there has been ample time to get a deal done. Reply |
| 29. Author: The Boss Date: Sat 6th Jun 2026. 11:21 wee eck, Sat 6 Jun 11:02 What is this so called “merry-go-round” though? This just seems like an excuse for us not getting our signings in quickly enough. St Johnstone last season had Baird,Smith,Tumilty,Holt,Stanton,Gullan etc and still won the league pretty easily. You could class all those players as on the “merry-go-round”. I’m looking forward to see who we can bring in but it takes a mix. Not just a lot of unheard of names. Unless we want to finish fourth again that is. I like black and white (dreaming of black and white) You like black and white Run run away Post Edited (Sat 06 Jun 11:30) Reply |
| 30. Author: wee eck Date: Sat 6th Jun 2026. 11:21 `I`m not sure his emergence is that sudden. I think he`s played in something like 27 games this season, most of which have been at left centre back. We obviously don`t know if/when the club first offered him a new deal, but if it was up to me I would have done it at least 6 months ago. But alas, we are where we are ` If you`d offered him a new deal at least 6 months ago you would have shown remarkable foresight. My recollection is that the start of his re-emergence was in the 2-3 home defeat to Ayr just before Christmas when he played at CB and scored both our goals, his first in senior football. He became a fixture after that and a bit of a goal threat but I think it took a wee while for fans to acknowledge his consistency. Reply |
| 31. Author: neilholland999 Date: Sat 6th Jun 2026. 11:25 Unless I specifically knew we had good/better players coming in at the end of the season, I would have thought at least a one year contract for KN would have been a sensible thing to do. Doesn`t really need a lot of foresight to make that call. Reply |
| 32. Author: wee eck Date: Sat 6th Jun 2026. 12:00 As you said earlier, we don`t know when/if the club offered him a new deal and we certainly don`t know the terms, so debating it is all a bit academic. Reply |
| 33. Author: neilholland999 Date: Sat 6th Jun 2026. 12:08 Indeed Reply |
| 34. Author: alwaysaPar Date: Sat 6th Jun 2026. 12:11 His situation is of a similar vein to Matty Todd as there were disagreements with regards to their attitude and lack of acceptance to the change the way the squad was operating After sit down talks both parties agreed that they would set aside differences for the team and their own benefit Unfortunately these disagreements have always been simmering underneath and although new contracts have been on the table they have been looking elsewhere for a while Ngwenya hasn`t always been that cut and dried but he does realise that he could get a really lucrative deal, so if that comes to fruition he will go Reply |
| 35. Author: 1885_ChillPar Date: Sat 6th Jun 2026. 12:13 We did offer him a deal. Was in the squad update. Same with JCM, Bene and Davidson. Reply |
| 36. Author: neilholland999 Date: Sat 6th Jun 2026. 12:27 1885_ChillPar, Sat 6 Jun 12:13 This is not the point being debated. It was just whether or not a deal was offered (or should have been offered) earlier in the season. Reply |
| 37. Author: LochgellyAlbert Date: Sat 6th Jun 2026. 13:34 At the end of the day it is down to the agents who have loyalty to no one but their clients! Reply |
| 38. Author: Geordiepar Date: Sat 6th Jun 2026. 13:46 neilholland999, Sat 6 Jun 12:27 Hindsight is such a wonderful thing. Can’t remember a single post from you 4:5/6 months ago suggesting we should be offering Ngenwa a new contract. Reply |
| 39. Author: Jeffery Date: Sat 6th Jun 2026. 14:17 Was about to say the very same. If we`d known in advance how the second half of the season was going to go then we might have done things differently transfer and contracts wise. You can`t focus on what might have been though. Just use what happened in the past to support making the right decisions in future. Reply |
| 40. Author: neilholland999 Date: Sat 6th Jun 2026. 14:46 @geordiepar - People don`t need to post on this forum everytime they have a suggestion or an opinion on something. This will be my last post on this thread. Reply |