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| 1. Author: ipswichpar Date: Tue 16th Jun 2026. 06:46 USMac`s post got me thinking.... are the WC groups organised so that the 3rd vs 4th drawn teams happen first, and those teams are thought to be the lowest FIFA ranked teams? With 3 games still to happen, there have been 5 draws already in those games which gives me a bit more hope for getting a 3rd place finish.... List below...... Post Edited (Wed 17 Jun 06:43) Reply |
| 2. Author: Berry Date: Tue 16th Jun 2026. 07:48 Iraq Norway hasn’t played yet? The Iran and New Zealand draw is a good result for us as you’d expect they won’t win either of their next two and odds of them drawing both remaining games are slim so will finish behind Scotland. The other draws, promising but because they are against the bigger countries, still a good chance a few of them could finish with 4 points. Reply |
| 3. Author: ipswichpar Date: Tue 16th Jun 2026. 08:03 Ooops.....I`ll have to review my homework later! I didn't have time to compare based on FIFA rankings but I will look to do that later. It is tricky based on the weird way they do the draws and put teams in different groups based on some other reasons. Post Edited (Tue 16 Jun 08:05) Reply |
| 4. Author: Jeffery Date: Tue 16th Jun 2026. 08:51 Match order is predetermined by pots:- All 12 groups will play fixtures in this order: Match Day 1: 1 v 2, 3 v 4 Match Day 2: 1 v 3, 4 v 2 Match Day 3: 4 v 1, 2 v 3 There are 12 teams in each pot and the 3 host countries were seeded in pot one. This meant some very good teams ended up in pot 2. We were one of the most unfortunate in this regard as Morocco are 7th in the world. In a single host event they would undoubtedly have been in pot 1. Reply |
| 5. Author: ipswichpar Date: Tue 16th Jun 2026. 09:00 Thanks Jeffery. Very helpful. Reply |
| 6. Author: ipswichpar Date: Tue 16th Jun 2026. 15:38  Post Edited (Tue 16 Jun 15:56) Reply |
| 7. Author: Jeffery Date: Tue 16th Jun 2026. 16:25 ipswichpar, Tue 16 Jun 09:00 No problem Ipswich. The image you posted isn`t loading so trying again here:-  Those two highly ranked teams are a big reason why Opta predicts us not being successful as a 3rd placed team. Results have gone as expected so far in our group. Reply |
| 8. Author: ipswichpar Date: Tue 16th Jun 2026. 16:42 Thanks for fixing - not sure what`s up as it`s resolving ok this end.... oh well. Rather than 3rd vs 4th (I`m not sure if that BBC explanation is accurate now) I have had a look at where the lowest FIFA ranked teams in each group are playing each other. I was surprised at how many of these had yet to play. I know that there are massive assumptions, but generally I think these could be some of the most important games for us to keep an eye on, and hopefully a few of them will end in draws, with losses (or one draw) against the other two teams in the group. I suspect the days following our last game are going to see us sitting with everything crossed ...... Date 14-Jun Haiti - Scotland 0-1 15-Jun Sweden - Tunisia 5-1 16-Jun Iraq- Norway 1-4 18-Jun Czechia- South Africa 18-Jun Ghana- Panama 22-Jun Egypt- New Zealand 23-Jun Algeria- Jordan 24-Jun Qatar- Bosnia & Herzegovina 25-Jun Cote d`Ivoire - Curacao 26-Jun Australia - Paraguay 27-Jun Saudia Arabia - Cape Verde 28-Jun DR Congo - Uzbekistan Post Edited (Wed 17 Jun 06:42) Reply |
| 9. Author: Berry Date: Tue 16th Jun 2026. 16:51 Think ideally we’d just be wanting all of 3 and 4 teams to draw when facing each other Reply |
| 10. Author: Rusty Shackleford Date: Tue 16th Jun 2026. 17:12 I think we`ll take a point and all this chat will prove redundant. Reply |
| 11. Author: Berry Date: Tue 16th Jun 2026. 17:29 Rusty Shackleford, Tue 16 Jun 17:12 One certainly hopes so! Reply |
| 12. Author: Rusty Shackleford Date: Tue 16th Jun 2026. 19:48 Berry, Tue 16 Jun 17:29 I`m having a go at manifesting 😂😂😂 Reply |
| 13. Author: DA-go Par Adonis Date: Tue 16th Jun 2026. 23:29 If Scotland win and Brazil don`t beat Haiti, we win the group with a game to spare... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Equal rights and justice in this time Reply |
| 14. Author: Stanza Date: Wed 17th Jun 2026. 01:41 DA-go Par Adonis, Tue 16 Jun 23:29 The ghost of Ally MacLeod has joined the discussion! (But gosh, I hope you`re right ...,) _________________  Support Dunfermline Athletic Disabled Supporters` Club (DADSC) when you shop online with one of 8000 firms: http://www.easyfundraising.org.uk/causes/dadsc[Reply |
| 15. Author: USMac Date: Wed 17th Jun 2026. 04:24 I believe the BBC article is incorrect that all match groups play 1v2 and 3v4 on the first match day. No way Curaçao and Cape Verde are #2 teams, having played Germany and Spain, respectively, which clearly are #1 teams. Also, I believe the 3 host teams are treated as #1 teams, and Bosnia, who played Canada, is a #4 team because they made the WC through the playoffs. Reply |
| 16. Author: alwaysaPar Date: Wed 17th Jun 2026. 06:34 The BBC article is correct as it was the positions that the teams were drawn into their groups. So these positions were pre determined before the draw for match scheduling purposes For example , for group A , the pot 2 team was always going to be drawn in to position 3 , Group B , position 4, group C position 2 and so on...... Reply |
| 17. Author: ipswichpar Date: Wed 17th Jun 2026. 06:41 I can remember that the draw was stupidly complicated in terms of seemingly randomly moving drawn teams along to different groups (I think it included things such as not too many from the same governing body e.g. UEFA). That`s why I have looked at FIFA world ranking as I think it is more representative. Hopefully we will start to see a few more draws soon! Reply |
| 18. Author: USMac Date: Wed 17th Jun 2026. 13:36 Panama v Ghana would be a good game for a draw because I don’t see either England or Croatia losing to either team. I’m skeptical, though, whether there will be ultimately be 4 or more third-placed teams finishing with less than 3 points from group play. In other words, Scotland may not make it to the knockout round with 3 points and a poor GD. Reply |
| 19. Author: AdamAntsParsStripe Date: Wed 17th Jun 2026. 14:02 USMac, Wed 17 Jun 13:36 We’re hoping for a couple of the teams hammered or soundly beaten in their opening game to get a third place on no more than 3 points which might be possible should we fail to get any more points. Iraq might be one of them. Also hoping Iran and New Zealand fail to win either of their remaining two games. Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte  Post Edited (Wed 17 Jun 14:02) Reply |
| 20. Author: Stanza Date: Wed 17th Jun 2026. 14:12 USMac, Wed 17 Jun 13:36 I`m inclined to agree. If we don`t get a point from our next two games our GD will be at best -1 and probably worse. Our GS figure isn`t likely to improve much, and with 3 yellow cards already we can`t rely on that to save us. On the other hand, we are one clean sheet away from getting 4 points and almost-certain qualification - will that colour Clarke`s team selections? _________________ Support Dunfermline Athletic Disabled Supporters` Club (DADSC) when you shop online with one of 8000 firms: http://www.easyfundraising.org.uk/causes/dadsc[Reply |
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