| Topic: Is it time for a new national manager? |
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| 21. Author: Dave_1885 Date: Thu 25th Jun 2026. 17:41 wee eck, Thu 25 Jun 17:30 Denmark didn’t lose at home to Belarus. And nobody is downplaying the fact that Steve Clarke, is our most successful manager in terms of getting us to major tournaments. But….. We have flopped at those tournaments. If we get through this week, it will not be because of our own performance v Haiti, but because others don’t pick up the results required to catch us. You will most likely claim thats a positive because we got the result, but the way we qualify will be embarrassing. Now, Clarke should get the Nations League later this year. If we don’t do well in that, he needs moved on. Bring in a fresh face pre Euros qualifiers. Take the hit. Our stock is now much higher than previously - we’ve made 3 of the last 4 major tournaments and have Bal’on Dor nominees in our squad. A foreign manager might just get more out this squad and bring in fresh blood. Reply |
| 22. Author: ipswichpar Date: Thu 25th Jun 2026. 17:44 Well, if he gets punted now after they have just signed a 4 year deal with him then all the decision makers need to go too. He`ll be staying..... just as he should. Bunch of snowflakes these days chucking toys out of prams when things aren`t perfect. Can`t make a purse out of a sow`s ear. Reply |
| 23. Author: wee eck Date: Thu 25th Jun 2026. 17:57 `Our stock is now much higher than previously - we’ve made 3 of the last 4 major tournaments...` You don`t do irony, do you? 😊😊😊 Reply |
| 24. Author: KirklistonPar Date: Thu 25th Jun 2026. 18:18 The quality of Scottish football hasn’t changed that much since Craig Brown got us to the euro’s and World Cup, if anything it’s got worse, while lots of these so called small nations have massively improved. No easy games and the Euro’s or the World Cup. It’s just gutting to lose any game of football to such basic errors. Maybe qualifying is the pinnacle of what we can achieve as a small nation. Reply |
| 25. Author: SeasonedPar Date: Thu 25th Jun 2026. 18:32 Isn’t it a very modern thing to call for someone to be sacked? Sack the board, the manager must go, we need a new Prime Minister. The problems go much deeper. No strikers. Lack of depth. I really think we’re out now, but if by some fluke we get through, I hope the squad put on a performance for the fantastic Tartan Army. Reply |
| 26. Author: WarringtonPar Date: Thu 25th Jun 2026. 18:40 Indiapar1, Thu 25 Jun 17:39 I agree but tell me who’s going to instigate that? No one very soon I’d wager so you’re left with a national coach who doesn’t seem to have any influence on the structure or direction of our game though id like to think he’d have tried too. Perhaps someone coming from outside can be the catalyst for wholesale change. Reply |
| 27. Author: WarringtonPar Date: Thu 25th Jun 2026. 18:41 SeasonedPar, Thu 25 Jun 18:32 They certainly deserve one. Reply |
| 28. Author: Indiapar1 Date: Thu 25th Jun 2026. 19:24 WarringtonPar, Thu 25 Jun 18:40 I think thats my point WarringtonPar. The easiest route is to fet a new manager then nothing will change. The solution is a grass roots review of where football currently stands, league structure, the youth systems, progression into 1st team football, coaching etc. Etc. Steve Clarke didnt give the ball away for the first goal. Thats on players G Wardrope Reply |
| 29. Author: WarringtonPar Date: Thu 25th Jun 2026. 19:36 Indiapar1, Thu 25 Jun 19:24 No one can argue with your last comment but you could argue that the way he set the team up and asked them to play was entirely his doing. We don’t have one centre back who is particularly comfortable on the ball so why have them playing out from the back against one of the best frontlines in the world. I personally think Clarke is done for anyway, sadly not for the fact he’s a poor coach but for the way he handled the media after the game. He’ll get slaughtered the next time they perform as they did last night or struggle at Hampden. He has no personality whatsoever, always looking to be smart or argumentative and I think he crossed the line last night. Reply |
| 30. Author: Indiapar1 Date: Thu 25th Jun 2026. 19:46 WarringtonPar, Thu 25 Jun 19:36 I think thats fair comment. I am sure his comments were a bit soon after the game. You need to sleep on it so he should know better. It was a bit negative to say we are out i wonder of there was a bit of dissent among the players. McTominay seemed quite upset at half time against Morocco. I think like any other job, you get the best from people if you play to their strengths. G Wardrope Reply |
| 31. Author: Tad Allagash Date: Thu 25th Jun 2026. 19:57 I don’t think you can say Clarke qualifying for a 48 team World Cup and a 24 team Euros makes him our most successful manger when you consider we qualified for an 8 team Euro 92 and a couple of 16 team World Cups in the 70’s. Reply |
| 32. Author: Jock Par36 Date: Thu 25th Jun 2026. 20:00 Yes it is time for a new Manager. Time and time again has Clark used the wrong players in the wrong positions and the wrong tactics. Too many times players are playing out of their normal positions. He has stuck with players who are simply not good enough. Hanley, Ralston Dykes and Adams for starters. He has been loyal to these players for far too long. Time for a Manager with a bit of foresight. Reply |
| 33. Author: SeasonedPar Date: Thu 25th Jun 2026. 20:46 Tad Allagash, Thu 25 Jun 19:57 Steve Clarke is the best and most successful manager in modern Scottish national team history, having made history as the first manager to guide Scotland to three consecutive major tournaments: UEFA Euro 2020, Euro 2024, and the World Cup.While Clarke holds the modern record for consistency and tournament qualifications, the debate over Scotland`s all-time greatest manager encompasses a few legendary figures:Sir Alex Ferguson: Widely regarded as one of the greatest football managers of all time. Though best known for his unparalleled club success at Manchester United, he notably stepped in to manage the Scotland national team during the 1986 World Cup following the tragic passing of Jock Stein.Jock Stein: A legendary figure in Scottish football, Stein led Celtic to historic European Cup success and successfully managed the national team, guiding them to the 1982 World Cup in Spain.Andy Roxburgh: Managed Scotland at both the 1990 World Cup and Euro 1992, and boasts a 33.3% win record in major tournaments, tying him among the most successful tournament bosses.Willie Ormond: Praised for his tactical achievements, Ormond successfully steered the squad to the 1974 World Cup finals in West Germany. Source - AI. Post Edited (Thu 25 Jun 20:57) Reply |
| 34. Author: Dave_1885 Date: Thu 25th Jun 2026. 20:52 SeasonedPar, Thu 25 Jun 20:46 Youve shot yourself in the foot with the first sentence of your reply…..will let you figure that one out though 😂 Reply |
| 35. Author: jake89 Date: Thu 25th Jun 2026. 21:43 How can it be three consecutive when 2022 is missing? I like Clarke. Scotland`s success is having a pretty consistent line up who work well. The downside is some of them should really be replaced so others get a chance. Some of what we saw last night would embarrass the Pars u-18s! Reply |
| 36. Author: thebear Date: Thu 25th Jun 2026. 21:43 It`s interesting, how we say no point in changing the manager as he has got us to a few big championships. If that`s the case let`s all accept mediocrity and that we are awful. I genuinely believe that we should be much better. There is no point in arguing who could have done better. The point we have to try and to try we have to change. No point in stating new manager same pool of players, so do nothing. We need all stakeholders in Scottish football to get together and change stuff That includes the big two, it`s not about having two big teams who using a team of foreigners struggle to qualify for the big cup. We need leagues where lots of Scots, play at our highest standard, we need less third tier leagues and we needcto re invigorating schools and mentoring, we also need to minimise foreign players, if that legal. So SFA and SPFL sort it out and in 10 years it will be better Post Edited (Thu 25 Jun 21:44) Reply |
| 37. Author: stevemac Date: Thu 25th Jun 2026. 22:03 .....and yet many yearn for us as a club to go for guys like cacares ,amade and i suppose the irish guys,gilmour etc. way,way,way too many players from outwith scotland in our leagues. Reply |
| 38. Author: kozmasrightfoot Date: Thu 25th Jun 2026. 22:49 I don`t think that any manager within our means could make us better. Too many average players. Kids need to be outside playing football instead of playing on their Playboxes or making Ticky Tack and Yourtub videos. Pars fan. Magpies fan. Mens tennis fan. Alternative rock fan. Not a fan of much else. Reply |
| 39. Author: WYPar Date: Thu 25th Jun 2026. 22:57 He deserves a lot of praise for getting us to three tournaments. It’s a great achievement. But we’ve been utter mince when we’ve arrived at each of those tournaments, which can’t be overlooked either. There’s definitely a deeper issue at play too though. We’ve got, per capita, I believe the best attended league in Europe, and a fantastic backing for the national team. But we don’t seem to be able to do build on that passion for the game in the way other similar sized nations occasionally do and really show up. Aside from a few, we’re not bringing through real quality in key positions and those in charge need to look at why and how they fix that longer term. Reply |
| 40. Author: par-ticular Date: Fri 26th Jun 2026. 00:30 You can argue all you like about Clarke ability, his tactics etc. He didn’t make the football mistakes his players did. They are the ones who screwed it up. As we all know all the tactics in the world can go out the window if your players make stupid mistakes. Not seen anyone on here screaming abuse at individuals, claiming they should be dismissed. Reply |