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21. Author:  veteraneastender        
Date: Thu 15th May 2025. 11:45

"Maybe came over as Irish Navvies to do labouring jobs that the Brits didn`t want to do?

That sounds familiar 🤔

My wife`s gran came over from Belfast early 1900`s, currently we`re investigating for an Irish passport!"

One from a rural farming background so would know his way around horses - started off as an ostler then coachman. Later had the "Old Inn" in Dunfermline 1895-1900(ish) before settling in Alloa.

Another was a music teacher who came to Falkirk when her husband passed away at a relatively young age.

The other two were single and settled in Glasgow - must have met through the Irish community in the Gorbals area, where they married and later also settled here.

No history of Pat and Mick with a shovel and pick AFAIK !!!

I`ve started the Foreign Births Register process which allows me (eventually) to apply for a Republic of Ireland passport due to being a grandson on my paternal lineage. I spent quite an amount of researching the procedure to ensure I could tick all the boxes.

Your wife should have no problems - as long as you can provide the official original documentation required across her appropriate 3 generations.

Happy to offer advice if she gets tangled in the admin requirements.

Incidentally there is a Facebook site dedicated to the subject which can be very helpful.

Good luck to her.



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22. Author:  LochgellyAlbert        
Date: Thu 15th May 2025. 14:06

Cheers VEE!👍

I'm sure if all our MP'S can get an Irish passport after drinking a pint of Guinness we'll be OK.☘️☘️☘️

Post Edited (Thu 15 May 14:08)

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23. Author:  GG Riva        
Date: Thu 15th May 2025. 14:19

LochgellyAlbert, Thu 15 May 14:06

Cheers VEE!👍

I`m sure if all our MP`S can get an Irish passport after drinking a pint of Guinness we`ll be OK.☘️☘️☘️


🤣😂🤣



Not your average Sunday League player.


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24. Author:  jake89        
Date: Thu 15th May 2025. 16:01

LochgellyAlbert, Thu 15 May 10:42

veteraneastender, Thu 15 May 08:26

Five of my eight great grandparents came over from Ireland between the mid 1800s and early 1900s - there was significant opposition to that immigration as well.


Maybe came over as Irish Navvies to do labouring jobs that the Brits didn`t want to do?

That sounds familiar 🤔

My wife`s gran came over from Belfast early 1900`s, currently we`re investigating for an Irish passport!


Yeah, but they integrated and followed British values. They definitely didn`t all stick together in the same areas of towns and cities as a result of the natives excluding them. And they definitely didn`t bring their own religious beliefs and values...

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25. Author:  Wotsit        
Date: Thu 15th May 2025. 16:28

Irish migrants in larger cities were definitely ghettoised due to prejudice against them (ie they stuck together in large groups)

Glasgow still has the shadow of that hanging over it to this day. And it's pretty much wholly predicated on them bringing their own religious beliefs.

Also, unemployment is extremely low right now. About as low as it has ever been (less than half what it was a century ago) and, if anything, there is a labour shortage rather than an unemployment one with many employers (in sectors like care and hospitality) complaining that they can`t find staff.

The enemy travels by private jet, not by dinghy.

Post Edited (Thu 15 May 16:31)

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26. Author:  LochgellyAlbert        
Date: Thu 15th May 2025. 16:36

Kilburn, an Irish ghetto in London!

Defo discrimination against them.🤔

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27. Author:  jake89        
Date: Thu 15th May 2025. 18:53

There are already plenty of jobs as carers. We need a LOT of them. If you ask anyone receiving care of the family of someone receiving care they will tell you two things consistently:

1. You have to FIGHT to get a good care package
2. The care given will not be consistent (different carers all the time. some people get support, some people don`t etc.)

It`s a mess. There`s no money to pay carers decent money so they rely on goodwill. People who will accept crap pay and long hours (many of which are unpaid) are few and far between. People also forget just how skilled these roles are. These are NOT low skilled, easy roles. People are leaving the sector all the time, which is why there`s such a reliance on labour from overseas who are more willing to accept crap pay and conditions than Brits.

Hope none of the idiots supporting Labour (and Reform) ever need care support.

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28. Author:  Wotsit        
Date: Thu 15th May 2025. 19:45

[b]
Kilburn, an Irish ghetto in London!

Defo discrimination against them.🤔 [/b]



Indeed.

The enemy travels by private jet, not by dinghy.

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29. Author:  P        
Date: Thu 15th May 2025. 20:17

Wotsit, Thu 15 May 16:28

Also, unemployment is extremely low right now. About as low as it has ever been (less than half what it was a century ago) and, if anything, there is a labour shortage rather than an unemployment one with many employers (in sectors like care and hospitality) complaining that they can`t find staff.


Are the figures comparable though?
Unemployment is at its highest for 4 years at 1.57m but that is a fraction of the 9.2 million people aged between 16 and 64 in the UK that are not in work nor looking for a job.

I doubt a century ago there was the present level of support for those unable to work (although tbf many would have died)

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30. Author:  veteraneastender        
Date: Thu 15th May 2025. 20:20

The Irish arriving in the UK or USA had one huge advantage over other immigrants - the vast majority spoke English.

In America that prevented them being exploited to the same degree as Poles, Swedes and Germans etc.

It also helped with employment - for example, the largest single ethnic group in the US Army in the latter half of the 19th century were Irish volunteers.

For once Hollwood wasn`t far off historical accuracy with cavalrymen like Victor McLaglen alongside John Wayne.



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31. Author:  Bletchley_Par        
Date: Fri 16th May 2025. 19:25

The people he is trying to pander to don`t trust him and will never vote for him and the people that did vote for him are now calling him a Nazi.

He is now manically tweeting stuff less than a year ago he was calling "far right".

Our Prime Minister is a moron.



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32. Author:  LochgellyAlbert        
Date: Fri 16th May 2025. 21:08

Mair faces than the toun clock!🤔

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