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21. Author:  Parboiled        
Date: Sun 20th Jul 2025. 12:05

So what?



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22. Author:  jake89        
Date: Sun 20th Jul 2025. 12:38

Parboiled, Sun 20 Jul 12:05

So what?


Irrelevant to the case, but she loses some sympathy from me by supporting someone like Trump, particularly as he`s irrelevant to a nurse in Kirkcaldy! However, that`s a whole different topic and it was, in my opinion, the right court outcome and should hopefully result in an investigation into how poor NHS Fife HR is.

Post Edited (Sun 20 Jul 12:39)

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23. Author:  ipswichpar        
Date: Sun 20th Jul 2025. 12:44

Perhaps she has a holiday planned to the US and she wants to keep the border officials sweet?

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24. Author:  Dandy Warhol        
Date: Sun 20th Jul 2025. 21:12

jake89, Sun 20 Jul 12:38

Parboiled, Sun 20 Jul 12:05

So what?


Irrelevant to the case, but she loses some sympathy from me by supporting someone like Trump, particularly as he`s irrelevant to a nurse in Kirkcaldy! However, that`s a whole different topic and it was, in my opinion, the right court outcome and should hopefully result in an investigation into how poor NHS Fife HR is.


She`ll be gutted.

I don`t wanna go down like disco.

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25. Author:  jake89        
Date: Mon 21st Jul 2025. 12:01

Dandy Warhol, Sun 20 Jul 21:12

jake89, Sun 20 Jul 12:38

Parboiled, Sun 20 Jul 12:05

So what?


Irrelevant to the case, but she loses some sympathy from me by supporting someone like Trump, particularly as he`s irrelevant to a nurse in Kirkcaldy! However, that`s a whole different topic and it was, in my opinion, the right court outcome and should hopefully result in an investigation into how poor NHS Fife HR is.


She`ll be gutted.


Oh well...

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26. Author:  NMCmassive        
Date: Wed 23rd Jul 2025. 19:35

sadindiefreak, Fri 18 Jul 06:27

NMCmassive, Thu 17 Jul 23:30

jake89, Fri 11 Jul 15:15

Andrew283, Fri 11 Jul 14:24

It`s almost like cubicles would have solved this whole issue...


I think they might have both cubicles and an open area, which is what caused the problem. Given the Vic is a relatively new building it seems bizarre they didn`t just have it all as cubicles like they have at the Carnegie or Cowdenbeath leisure centre.

Both people in this case have made it very tit for tat. This is literally a case of being offended at being offended.


No sure about that. If my wife or any woman in my family had felt uncomfortable about having a male in a female only space, I’d wholly expect their employer to make the specific arrangements. I feel sorry for trans folk but you just can’t get away from the fact that you are born male or female.


Intersex people exist, the lowest estimates are 1 in 5500 the highest being about 1 in 59.

“Intersex” is an umbrella term used to describe people born with sex traits that do not fit binary medical definitions of male or female sexual or reproductive anatomy. Intersex populations are born with these differences in sex traits or may develop them during childhood. Human sex development is naturally diverse, with many variations possible in genitalia, hormones, internal anatomy, and/or chromosomes. It is estimated that up to 1.7 percent of the population has an intersex trait and that approximately 0.5 percent of people have clinically identifiable sexual or reproductive variations.


Yeah great, you’ve had to jump to the extremes of human mis development to justify why a woman felt uncomfortable trying to deal with an extremely heavy period while a man who self identifies as female was wrong to do so, or any other reason why women might feel uncomfortable and request to have female only spaces.

Here’s a great stat for you… 62% of transgender women jailed in England and Wales were convicted of sexual offences.

2024 Ministry of Justice report

COYP

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27. Author:  buffy        
Date: Wed 23rd Jul 2025. 21:23

152 of the 245 trans women in England’s prisons were convicted of sexual offences whilst recognising themselves as men at the time of the offence. So they were [b]imprisoned and convicted as male sex offenders[/b] before transitioning.

”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”

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28. Author:  red-star-par        
Date: Wed 23rd Jul 2025. 22:11

buffy, Wed 23 Jul 21:23

152 of the 245 trans women in England’s prisons were convicted of sexual offences whilst recognising themselves as men at the time of the offence. So they were [b]imprisoned and convicted as male sex offenders[/b] before transitioning.


To be honest, if they are convicted as male sexual abusers, then let them transition. Just not in a female prison. Let them live as women in a male prison, give them a taste of their own medicine

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29. Author:  buffy        
Date: Wed 23rd Jul 2025. 22:19

They’re not in female prisons.

”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”

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30. Author:  sadindiefreak        
Date: Wed 23rd Jul 2025. 23:45

Where have I tried to justify anything.

All I did was highlight the fact the there are instances where someone can be born something other than male or female.

Intersex people exist.




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31. Author:  jake89        
Date: Thu 24th Jul 2025. 07:44

buffy, Wed 23 Jul 22:19

They’re not in female prisons.


B-b-but Isla Burton! 🤦‍♂️

There`s a convicted sex offender in Dundee who was recently released. The crime was raping a wee boy. They now identify as a woman and are out on the streets having served their time. Does them now having long hair make them any less of a threat to local children?

In the case of Peggie her concern, although a bit daft in many people`s eyes, was disregarded and she was suspended. That should never have happened regardless of suspicion she was bullying. All of this should have been handled by the well paid managers and HR professionals. NHS Fife instead did their classic move of pretend it didn`t happen and try to transfer the problem to another department.

I know of a manager in NHS Fife who has caused at least half a dozen people to quit. Rather than take complaints about this person seriously they moved this person into a new role where they wouldn`t have any direct reports. So they got PROMOTED for being an evil ****. I observed them first hand berate someone when they were signed off for mental health reasons. This was reported to NHS Fife HR who suggested moving the complainer to another job (sound familiar?).

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32. Author:  NMCmassive        
Date: Thu 24th Jul 2025. 12:50

buffy, Wed 23 Jul 22:19

They’re not in female prisons.


Doesn’t matter though does it? It’s not in female prisons they’ll commit the sexual offence. It’s in the community. Those kinds of cases are already insanely difficult to prosecute as it’s usually her word against his. Now we’re opening up a female only space - what should be a safe space for women, to male sex offenders dressed as women.

COYP

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33. Author:  buffy        
Date: Thu 24th Jul 2025. 13:32

NMCmassive, Thu 24 Jul 12:50

buffy, Wed 23 Jul 22:19

They’re not in female prisons.


Doesn’t matter though does it? It’s not in female prisons they’ll commit the sexual offence. It’s in the community. Those kinds of cases are already insanely difficult to prosecute as it’s usually her word against his. Now we’re opening up a female only space - what should be a safe space for women, to male sex offenders dressed as women.


Do you only have a problem with trans women committing sexual offences? No outbursts or threads about men doing the same, who by the way, are also in the community and don’t need to be “dressed as women” to carry out these types of crimes.

”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”

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34. Author:  jake89        
Date: Thu 24th Jul 2025. 14:06

I don`t mean this to sound disrespectful, but a man doesn`t need to put a dress on to be a sex offender. He also surely makes it EASIER to identify himself if he`s presenting as a woman.

Years ago I worked with a guy who did all the Disclosure checks. What stayed with me was him saying "This just means someone hasn`t been caught, not that they are innocent."

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35. Author:  NMCmassive        
Date: Thu 24th Jul 2025. 14:08

buffy, Thu 24 Jul 13:32

NMCmassive, Thu 24 Jul 12:50

buffy, Wed 23 Jul 22:19

They’re not in female prisons.


Doesn’t matter though does it? It’s not in female prisons they’ll commit the sexual offence. It’s in the community. Those kinds of cases are already insanely difficult to prosecute as it’s usually her word against his. Now we’re opening up a female only space - what should be a safe space for women, to male sex offenders dressed as women.


Do you only have a problem with trans women committing sexual offences? No outbursts or threads about men doing the same, who by the way, are also in the community and don’t need to be “dressed as women” to carry out these types of crimes.


I don’t get your thinking here. I’m too old to be worried about a school level argument of “well you must be X if you think Y”.

The reason for me pointing out the problem with a loose definition of trans and not allowing women to have a defined area for themselves is we will start to see a disproportionate number of trans sexual offenders. Which we’re starting to see…

But, it doesn’t also negate everything else we’re seeing. That nurse had every right to say I don’t feel comfortable with them in here. Same as if you didn’t feel comfortable with an individual in your space who wasn’t born with the innate right to be there, you should have the ability to speak freely.

I’m not anti trans, but I’m also not anti women.

COYP

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36. Author:  NMCmassive        
Date: Thu 24th Jul 2025. 14:19

jake89, Thu 24 Jul 14:06

I don`t mean this to sound disrespectful, but a man doesn`t need to put a dress on to be a sex offender. He also surely makes it EASIER to identify himself if he`s presenting as a woman.

Years ago I worked with a guy who did all the Disclosure checks. What stayed with me was him saying "This just means someone hasn`t been caught, not that they are innocent."


☝🏻

He wasn’t wrong.

I worked with a guy who got caught grooming a 14yr old. He certainly wasn’t the “type” you’d have thought, had all his disclosures done, married, kids all grown up and all that. The guy had been through the military.

I was quite shocked when I heard about it years later. Apparently got caught within 6 months of me moving on. He didn’t do a runner (he went through the police/court process etc) but had to kinda mid-night flit his house and all that. Leave his wife to deal with it. Just horrendous for her.

Thing is, he’ll probably say that was the first time… in his 50’s 🤔

COYP

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37. Author:  Back_oh_the_net        
Date: Mon 28th Jul 2025. 20:48

So it turns out it’s no just trans people she has issues with at Muslims catholics immigrants and homosexuals to the list if the latest report in the courier is anything think to go by

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38. Author:  jake89        
Date: Mon 28th Jul 2025. 22:37

If the above is true, surely THIS is what she should have been suspended for rather than because she didn`t like changing in front of someone who was born as a male?

All NHS Scotland contracts include a requirement to live by NHS values. Here are the NHS Fife ones:

Care and compassion
Dignity and respect
Openness, honesty and responsibility
Quality and teamwork

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39. Author:  Andrew283        
Date: Mon 28th Jul 2025. 23:09

She`s a complete melt and the right wing media are loving this as it allows them to push their anti-trans agenda

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