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Topic: Angela Reyner - good old traditional Labour values
101. Author:  wee eck        
Date: Sat 6th Sep 2025. 11:58

This accusation of `earning a fortune` only seems to be made against SNP MSPs (and MPs). Most of the other MSPs are on the `list` and don`t even have a constituency they are responsible to.



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102. Author:  jake89        
Date: Sat 6th Sep 2025. 12:48

What "madness" NMC?

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103. Author:  Dandy Warhol        
Date: Sat 6th Sep 2025. 12:54

jake89, Sat 6 Sept 12:48

What "madness" NMC?


Crazy gender confusion for a start.

I don`t wanna go down like disco.

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104. Author:  jake89        
Date: Sat 6th Sep 2025. 12:58

What gender confusion is that? Are there examples of issues in gender beyond the ridiculous NHS Fife situation?

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105. Author:  Dandy Warhol        
Date: Sat 6th Sep 2025. 16:10

jake89, Sat 6 Sept 12:58

What gender confusion is that? Are there examples of issues in gender beyond the ridiculous NHS Fife situation?


For real?
You think that`s the only case?
Jings.

I don`t wanna go down like disco.

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106. Author:  LochgellyAlbert        
Date: Sat 6th Sep 2025. 18:51

jake89, Sat 6 Sept 12:58

What gender confusion is that? Are there examples of issues in gender beyond the ridiculous NHS Fife situation?


Strange that a similar case in England didn`t get the same coverage?šŸ¤”

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107. Author:  The One Who Knocks        
Date: Sat 6th Sep 2025. 23:24

Which case is that? If there is one then I`m surprised the media aren`t all over it.

And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed


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108. Author:  LochgellyAlbert        
Date: Sun 7th Sep 2025. 01:13

Still batting for the opposition I see:-

https://sex-matters.org/case-briefings/bethany-hutchison-and-others-v-county-durham-and-darlington-nhs-trust/

Post Edited (Sun 07 Sep 01:13)

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109. Author:  The One Who Knocks        
Date: Sun 7th Sep 2025. 09:43

Batting for the opposition? No idea what that is supposed to mean. Nevertheless, having googled that case LA I found numerous articles on it from the likes of the BBC, Daily Mail, etc and, I`m going out on a limb here, the reason that it hasn`t got as much coverage as the NHS fife case is receiving is that the court case doesn`t start until October.

And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed


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110. Author:  jake89        
Date: Sun 7th Sep 2025. 10:06

Dandy Warhol, Sat 6 Sept 16:10

jake89, Sat 6 Sept 12:58

What gender confusion is that? Are there examples of issues in gender beyond the ridiculous NHS Fife situation?


For real?
You think that`s the only case?
Jings.


Where would I find details of the others in Scotland? Tried Google and I`m struggling.

As far as I`m aware, Scots Law is following UK and EU law in terms of trans concerns so I`m struggling to see where the SNP come in. The GRA has been dropped so it can`t be that.

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111. Author:  NMCmassive        
Date: Mon 8th Sep 2025. 11:58

AdamAntsParsStripe, Sat 6 Sep 11:57

NMCmassive, Sat 6 Sep 10:41

Vote SNP and live to regret it. The madness will continue.

They’re stuck in their own nonsense and earning a fortune while they do it. Genuinely, the quickest route to independence will be through a competent leader. There’s not 1 of them in the current SNP crop.


How would a competent leader achieve independence?


The same way as a competent leader managed to get support and push for an independence referendum the first time. If there’s enough support, we’ll get independence but if Holyrood looks like a basket case, we’ve got no chance.

COYP

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112. Author:  NMCmassive        
Date: Mon 8th Sep 2025. 12:11

jake89, Sat 6 Sep 12:48

What "madness" NMC?


1 Hate crime and Public order act 2024
2 Gender Recognition Act Reforms
3 Scrapping the Marine Protection Plan
4 Stonewall funding - which led to the removal of words like ā€œmotherā€ from policies
5 Deposit Return Scheme

I’ll stop at 5 but I could keep going.

Just so you’re aware, a total of 7 transgender women were housed in female only prisons. 1 of which we know was guilty of rape. The other of sexually assaulting a 10 year old girl in a supermarket toilet and filming 12 year old girls in another incident.

I’m sure someone could troll through court records or something and find out about the other 5 but the 2 we know about are bad enough.

Only took me about 2 minutes to find that out.

Isla Bryson and Katie Dolatowski

COYP

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113. Author:  AdamAntsParsStripe        
Date: Mon 8th Sep 2025. 12:49

NMCmassive, Mon 8 Sep 11:58

AdamAntsParsStripe, Sat 6 Sep 11:57

NMCmassive, Sat 6 Sep 10:41

Vote SNP and live to regret it. The madness will continue.

They’re stuck in their own nonsense and earning a fortune while they do it. Genuinely, the quickest route to independence will be through a competent leader. There’s not 1 of them in the current SNP crop.


How would a competent leader achieve independence?


The same way as a competent leader managed to get support and push for an independence referendum the first time. If there’s enough support, we’ll get independence but if Holyrood looks like a basket case, we’ve got no chance.


You could argue we only got one agreed in 2012 because support for Indy simply wasn’t there and David Cameron was confident enough to ā€˜put it to bed’
Today Indy support is consistently around 50% so what Prime Minister is going to agree AND get it through the HOC?

Zwei Pints Bier und ein PƤckchen Chips bitte


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114. Author:  wee eck        
Date: Mon 8th Sep 2025. 13:35

I think the SNP should be pushing the argument that the UK is not a voluntary union and the present set-up is a denial of democracy. I haven`t heard a unionist politician give a satisfactory answer to this question anytime they`ve been asked about it. Yesterday the new Scottish Secretary, Douglas Alexander, could only repeat the old line that we had our chance in 2014! I think it`s a good point Swinney made last week that there are probably about a million voters now who weren`t eligible to vote then.



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115. Author:  jake89        
Date: Mon 8th Sep 2025. 14:11

NMCmassive, Mon 8 Sept 12:11

jake89, Sat 6 Sep 12:48

What "madness" NMC?


1 Hate crime and Public order act 2024
2 Gender Recognition Act Reforms
3 Scrapping the Marine Protection Plan
4 Stonewall funding - which led to the removal of words like ā€œmotherā€ from policies
5 Deposit Return Scheme

I’ll stop at 5 but I could keep going.

Just so you’re aware, a total of 7 transgender women were housed in female only prisons. 1 of which we know was guilty of rape. The other of sexually assaulting a 10 year old girl in a supermarket toilet and filming 12 year old girls in another incident.

I’m sure someone could troll through court records or something and find out about the other 5 but the 2 we know about are bad enough.

Only took me about 2 minutes to find that out.

Isla Bryson and Katie Dolatowski


1. The act that simply added the likes of religious bigotry to the list of behaviours people shouldn`t exhibit?
2. Wasn`t implemented
3. Scrapped because it became apparent it wouldn`t work? UK gov took the same approach.
4. From the maternity policy only but agree this was just silly.
5. Was cancelled by the UK government despite being successfully implemented in many EU countries no bother. After seeing it work in Germany not too long ago I`m even more frustrated that we don`t have this here, particularly when you can walk around Dunfermline and see discarded bottles everywhere.

The rules on trans prisoners haven`t changed. They`ve been the same for years. Despite what the Daily Mail report, it`s up to the SPS to determine where a trans prisoner is best suited to go. There is an assessment prior to the decision.

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116. Author:  wee eck        
Date: Mon 8th Sep 2025. 14:50

We`re still waiting on the shinier, brighter, UK version of the Deposit Return Scheme we were promised!



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117. Author:  veteraneastender        
Date: Mon 8th Sep 2025. 18:45

Wasn`t it the UK Westminster government that punted the deposit scheme into the long grass over the inclusion of glass ?



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118. Author:  jake89        
Date: Mon 8th Sep 2025. 23:07

veteraneastender, Mon 8 Sept 18:45

Wasn`t it the UK Westminster government that punted the deposit scheme into the long grass over the inclusion of glass ?


Yes, but I think the suggestion is it was a waste of time.

My experience in Germany was you didn`t see bottles dumped on the street. If someone dropped one, a homeless person would have it in seconds. In the more touristy bits of Berlin some enterprising people would go around offering to dispose of your empty bottle for you. I used the machine a few times and they were really simple. Pop the bottles in one after the other and collect a receipt to scan at the till for your money back.

No different to many years ago when Barrs bottles did a discount on return. I remember my older brother always being on the look out for bottles to take to the shop for sweets.

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119. Author:  NMCmassive        
Date: Mon 8th Sep 2025. 23:50

Lorna Slater knew from the start the UK Gov wouldn’t offer a UKIMA unless glass was excluded yet pursued it regardless. The DRS scheme was a good idea but the way they tried to implement it, was extremely poorly handled. They layered extra bureaucracy and costs onto businesses, dismissed practical concerns from businesses and consumer groups, insisted it was all going ahead even though their own people were warning of a ā€œsevere lack of confidenceā€ in meeting the planned launch.

How you can argue yourself into a position of being sued for huge amounts from multiple parties when the goal posts haven’t moved an inch is beyond me

COYP

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120. Author:  NMCmassive        
Date: Tue 9th Sep 2025. 00:57

jake89, Mon 8 Sep 14:11

NMCmassive, Mon 8 Sept 12:11

jake89, Sat 6 Sep 12:48

What "madness" NMC?


1 Hate crime and Public order act 2024
2 Gender Recognition Act Reforms
3 Scrapping the Marine Protection Plan
4 Stonewall funding - which led to the removal of words like ā€œmotherā€ from policies
5 Deposit Return Scheme

I’ll stop at 5 but I could keep going.

Just so you’re aware, a total of 7 transgender women were housed in female only prisons. 1 of which we know was guilty of rape. The other of sexually assaulting a 10 year old girl in a supermarket toilet and filming 12 year old girls in another incident.

I’m sure someone could troll through court records or something and find out about the other 5 but the 2 we know about are bad enough.

Only took me about 2 minutes to find that out.

Isla Bryson and Katie Dolatowski


1. The act that simply added the likes of religious bigotry to the list of behaviours people shouldn`t exhibit?
2. Wasn`t implemented
3. Scrapped because it became apparent it wouldn`t work? UK gov took the same approach.
4. From the maternity policy only but agree this was just silly.
5. Was cancelled by the UK government despite being successfully implemented in many EU countries no bother. After seeing it work in Germany not too long ago I`m even more frustrated that we don`t have this here, particularly when you can walk around Dunfermline and see discarded bottles everywhere.

The rules on trans prisoners haven`t changed. They`ve been the same for years. Despite what the Daily Mail report, it`s up to the SPS to determine where a trans prisoner is best suited to go. There is an assessment prior to the decision.


You’ve missed out loads and cherry picked there but I wouldn’t have expected anything less.

1. Thats not all it does but I think you already know that.
2. Thankfully it impacted on the equality act
3 with the same controversy šŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļø
4 Stonewall were involved with the SPS gender identity and gender reassignment act 2014 act. Two more names for you - Paris Green and Tiffany Scott.
5 it wasn’t scrapped by the UK government. The SNP had loads of warning internally that it wasn’t viable but still pushed on regardless. Lined up retailers and waste management companies. They’re now being sued by multiple parties for huge amounts of money. Biffa are suing for Ā£166 million for losses from the deposit return scheme including Ā£55million ish spent on a new assets, specialist equipment and leased depots after receiving written assurances. Maybe have a look at what I was saying. A DRS scheme is a good idea but the SNP made a mess of it.

What has the Daily Mail got to do with me making an extra point about the Scottish government and stonewall?

COYP

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