Topic: Drug deaths |
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21. Author: jake89 Date: Wed 17th Sep 2025. 10:18 Tad Allagash, Tue 16 Sept 22:39 Scotland still loses on life expectancy, though mainly because Glasgow drags the entire country down. If you exclude Glasgow then Scotland`s doing pretty well in terms of life expectancy, drug deaths and deprivation. When a Weegie slags the rest of Scotland you have to wonder what drugs they`re on. They keep trying to treat the "problem" that is Glasgow rather than solve it. Reply |
22. Author: NMCmassive Date: Wed 17th Sep 2025. 11:44 jake89, Wed 17 Sep 10:18 Glasgow is always going to reflect the extremes of the country more just because of it’s population compared to the rest of the country. COYP Reply |
23. Author: jake89 Date: Wed 17th Sep 2025. 13:43 NMCmassive, Wed 17 Sept 11:44 Well, only really the negative extremes. High drug and alcohol deaths, low life expectancy, poor health outcomes, higher than average unemployment levels. I`m sure there`s an interesting study to be done into it as there`s almost a pretty neat East-West split (there are exceptions like Dundee). Reply |
24. Author: NMCmassive Date: Wed 17th Sep 2025. 14:07 jake89, Wed 17 Sep 13:43 It’s not like the entire city is a slum. Drumchapel is right next to Bearsden. Also I’m no being funny but I do go between both Glasgow and Edinburgh a fair bit and Glasgows a much better kept place than Edinburgh.(which I’d be blaming Edinburgh city council) COYP Post Edited (Wed 17 Sep 14:17) Reply |
25. Author: LochgellyAlbert Date: Wed 17th Sep 2025. 14:23 The roads in Edinburgh are a disgrace!😡 Reply |
26. Author: NMCmassive Date: Wed 17th Sep 2025. 14:40 LochgellyAlbert, Wed 17 Sep 14:23 100% Only thing in Edinburgh that can be relied on are the parking attendants COYP Reply |
27. Author: jake89 Date: Wed 17th Sep 2025. 15:39 The numbers speak for themselves. Glasgow has: Lowest life expectancy for men Second lowest life expectancy for women Highest drug death rate in Scotland Second worst health outcomes in Scotland (take a bow Inverclyde) Highest proportion of deprived areas (jointly shared with Inverclyde depending on the measure) Second highest alcohol deaths (another "win" for Inverclyde) Highest unemployment rate As a city it has some stunning architecture and great people, but it undoubtedly has enormous issues that don`t seem to be getting better despite decades of getting higher government spend per person than it`s east coast neighbour. And don`t start me on the state of Edinburgh`s roads. Reply |
28. Author: Dave_1885 Date: Wed 17th Sep 2025. 15:59 All of our cities are a shambles in one way or the other. The mismanagement from the councils is a joke. Too happy to accept planning permission for thousands of new, unaffordable housing, but cant afford to pay for the upkeep of the inner city centres. And Edinburghs roads are the prime example - council would rather put money to pushing cars out and bringing in bikes than relaying pretty much every road in the city, as they are all like the surface of the moon. Reply |
29. Author: jake89 Date: Wed 17th Sep 2025. 16:19 Dave_1885, Wed 17 Sept 15:59 That`s because council funding has effectively been cut. Inflation, aging population and increased social care needs are destroying council budgets...then there`s the payments on all those shiny PFI deals. Edinburgh is also an area that receives less government funding (£300 less per person compared to Glasgow). The reason councils look at these active travel projects is they are paid for centrally. Look at Aberdour Road, for example. A completely unnecessary shared use path added right beside an existing cycle path. Fife Council just got half of a mile of pavement resurfaced for free though. Reply |
30. Author: DBP Date: Wed 17th Sep 2025. 17:46 Agree edinburgh is becoming more and more of a dump each year - can’t believe how crap it is now compared to when I lived there. With my daughter now in Glasgow, I find myself going through regularly and much prefer it there out of the two Reply |
31. Author: jake89 Date: Wed 17th Sep 2025. 18:37 Edinburgh is still a spectacular city but it`s massively accelerated it`s reputation as being a tourist city. Glasgow has always felt more European to me but the city centre, like everywhere, is in decline. Sauchiehall Street in particular is a depressing hellhole. While it might not seem obviously linked, the state of town and city centres has an impact on people. Scotland is a pretty bleak place during the winter and Glasgow is ever worse as the west coast is always wetter/colder. On its own, living somewhere a bit miserable/depressing won`t result in health issues but it also doesn`t help. People often slag place standards as being nonsense but I`d certainly much rather live in a tree lined street with active travel routes than a 60s towerblock surrounded by red ash football pitches. Reply |
32. Author: NMCmassive Date: Wed 17th Sep 2025. 19:41 jake89, Wed 17 Sep 18:37 Need to remember Glasgow was the 2nd City of the empire. It was one of the richest cities in the world at that time, second to none in heavy industry. For working class people, life expectancies was still low though. The divide between the have’s and the have not’s was probably larger back then than it is today. (It does feel like we’re slipping backwards in that regard these days tho) In terms of the tower blocks and architecture-that was the fashion at the time 🤷🏻♂️ Horrendous but everywhere got the same. Brutalism is brutal. I definitely agree about standards though. I don’t think local standards will be addressed while Holyrood and Westminster take as much as they do and local councils get as little as they are. From what I can see Holyrood and Westminster are basically black holes where money disappears and results are never seen. COYP Reply |
33. Author: desparado Date: Wed 17th Sep 2025. 22:02 Wake up folks for gods sake. Surprise Surprise, England has been manipulating Drug Deaths to make Scotland look bad for donkeys years ……despite the fact that legislation in this instance is……….Reserved…….to Westminster. Covid deaths were reported differently between England and Scotland……..Waiting times at AnE are reported differently between England and Scotland…… It’s just political gamesmanship to show Scotland in a bad light , continually. If the reporting was consistent then the difference between Scotland and England regarding drug deaths would be very similar, in fact there are stats out there now that show that this problem in England is now surpassing the problem in Scotland. Regardless we still have people who will make political gain, political point scoring over an issue that the Scottish Government have very little control over. They are absolute scum. Our Uber Unionist on here…..Parboiled…..has on many occasions bumped his gums on this subject without being fully aware of the actual facts. The epitome of an ignoramus. He was probably down in London recently with a butchers apron draped over his shoulders. Scotland has to escape from this absolute sh*t show that this unequal union is …..and soon or we are going to be engulfed in a torrent of English nationalism disguised as British nationalism…..both of which are……nasty… If we don’t escape soon we are going to be well and truely fu..’k…d… Post Edited (Wed 17 Sep 22:20) Reply |
34. Author: red-star-par Date: Wed 17th Sep 2025. 22:48 Great post, Desparado Reply |
35. Author: jake89 Date: Wed 17th Sep 2025. 23:02 desparado, Wed 17 Sept 22:02 It`s actually worse than this. Unionist parties in Scotland voted against significant reforms to social care in Holyrood. Guess what? Reply |
36. Author: NMCmassive Date: Thu 18th Sep 2025. 00:57 We all argue about left wing this and right wing that. I’ve got to be honest, I don’t think any of them give 2 hoots about us. I think the majority start with good intentions and great expectations but by the time their balls are tickled and their pockets are full, the game is on to remain in power COYP Reply |
37. Author: Tad Allagash Date: Thu 18th Sep 2025. 22:49 ‘manipulating Drug Deaths to make Scotland look bad’. Who said it made us look bad? We’re Scottish, and we like our drugs. We chose not to choose life - we chose something else…. Reply |
38. Author: wee eck Date: Thu 18th Sep 2025. 23:05 Speak for yourself! Reply |