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| 21. Author: Tad Allagash Date: Mon 3rd Nov 2025. 00:30 When a car ploughed into a crowd of Liverpool fans back in May, the ethnicity of the suspect was quickly released. So a precedent has been set. If a suspect were at large then obviously they would have to release a physical description, but even when the suspect is in custody, they presumably want witnesses to come forward to piece together the movements of the suspect. Post Edited (Mon 03 Nov 09:41) Reply |
| 22. Author: Dave_1885 Date: Mon 3rd Nov 2025. 09:17 Named as Anthony Williams……not quite the name the masses were begging for on socials. Reply |
| 23. Author: GG Riva Date: Mon 3rd Nov 2025. 11:41 Dave_1885, Mon 3 Nov 09:17 Exactly, Dave. And if the police hadn`t disclosed his ethnic roots, people would not have been able to conclude that he is almost certainly black. That should be irrelevant, of course, but sadly, for some of our citizens, it is. Posters like Bletchley Par, who refuse to accept that shocking incidents like this can lead the hard-of-thinking in our society to take the law into their own hands, are in denial. You only have to seek the views of our Jewish communities. Anti-Semitic behaviour in this country has increased dramatically since the start of the Gaza war. While I understand it, what does that have to do with the peaceful, law abiding Jews living in Britain?  Not your average Sunday League player. Reply |
| 24. Author: Tad Allagash Date: Mon 3rd Nov 2025. 12:14 ‘And if the police hadn`t disclosed his ethnic roots, people would not have been able to conclude that he is almost certainly black.‘ Well, they might’ve figured that out from the video footage of the suspect at Huntingdon station. Reply |
| 25. Author: jake89 Date: Mon 3rd Nov 2025. 12:51 Tad Allagash, Mon 3 Nov 12:14 I thought he WAS black? Not that it`s really relevant. The guy needs served justice regardless of skin colour. Reply |
| 26. Author: ipswichpar Date: Mon 3rd Nov 2025. 13:21 jake89, Mon 3 Nov 12:51 I think it likely he still is black Jake. I can see why they released this info. The London Underground worker who saw a man on the platform who then may have quickly appeared in the car park described him as black. Pictures were shared too. I`m less bothered about this being shared, I`m more bothered about a situation where it cannot be shared for operational reasons as folk will now have been conditioned into getting this info, and if it`s not provided for good reason then they will fill the void with claiming that it is the deep state in action when it is nothing of the sort. The Home Secretary (and the previous one) has been quite clear that this is how she wants these matters dealt with. I`m sure it wasn`t a straightforward decision and if it had gone the other way there would have been many dissenting voices in the other direction (and a lot of evidence that it actually caused real world issues). Reply |
| 27. Author: Bletchley_Par Date: Mon 3rd Nov 2025. 16:06 Topic Originator: GG Riva like Hard of thinking... Your current stance is the police should not have described the ethnicity in case the other guy who was arrested was white (he was black) and if it was the white guy (who is black) who did it, the black guy (who did do it) getting his ethnicity named might cause black people to be subject to "something" even though the perpetrator was white (he was black).  Reply |
| 28. Author: The One Who Knocks Date: Mon 3rd Nov 2025. 16:32 Ultimately the guy was British and was obviously having a severe psychotic episode. He`ll be spending the next few decades in a secure facility. And although my eyes were open They just might as well be closed Reply |
| 29. Author: GG Riva Date: Mon 3rd Nov 2025. 16:35 ^^^^ Wow! You haven`t half tied yourself in knots ther, BP. 😁 FWIW, Britain isn`t alone in revealing the ethnicity/nationality of suspected criminals. I follow Italian news on national TV and various channels are quick to find out and inform viewers that the suspects are Albanian, Bulgarian, Romanian etc. If they`re from Northern Africa they`re usually described as "Morrocan" even if they`re Algerian, Tunisian, etc. Those from sub Saharan Africa are "African" or "black." I`ve heard first hand the anger such information arouses among the native population when I`m there on holiday. Racism is alive and well in Italy, too. Not your average Sunday League player. Reply |
| 30. Author: Dave_1885 Date: Mon 3rd Nov 2025. 16:36 The One Who Knocks, Mon 3 Nov 16:32 Reports of 2 other attacks before this one the same day. That, again, doesn’t suit the narrative for some people though and his ancestors that crossed on a boat are to blame - supposedly. Got to feel for the victims in this as well - most will be completely forgotten about by next week, but folk will still talk about the attacker. Fair play to the LNER staff member still in hospital, deserves a bravery medal. Reply |
| 31. Author: The One Who Knocks Date: Tue 4th Nov 2025. 11:07 Finally we have a name, Samir Zitouni. Unfortunately for those with a certain agenda that foreign sounding name belongs to the hero who bravely confronted the attacker and according to many undoubtedly saved many lives. And although my eyes were open They just might as well be closed Reply |
| 32. Author: Bletchley_Par Date: Tue 4th Nov 2025. 15:02 "Mr Zitouni remains "critically unwell" but stable in hospital." Man, if ever a nation needs a man to pull through it is this guy. Reply |
| 33. Author: GG Riva Date: Tue 4th Nov 2025. 15:28 Bletchley_Par, Tue 4 Nov 15:02 Absolutely. 🙏 Not your average Sunday League player. Reply |
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