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| 41. Author: Tad Allagash Date: Mon 29th Dec 2025. 20:13 Fly private then. It’s like going to Wetherspoons and complaining that Gordon Ramsay isn’t in the kitchen. It’s a budget airline that you chose. You’re obviously getting value for money. Otherwise, you wouldn’t be using them. Reply |
| 42. Author: LochgellyAlbert Date: Mon 29th Dec 2025. 21:59 Jet2.com charge you for booked seats, I get them free due to my wife needing Special Assistance. Reply |
| 43. Author: GG Riva Date: Tue 30th Dec 2025. 05:54 LochgellyAlbert, Mon 29 Dec 21:59 So do easyjet, LA, but I`m a frequent flyer with both and have never booked seats with either, and my wife and I have always been allocated adjacent seats, although on one occasion we were separated by the central aisle.  Not your average Sunday League player. Reply |
| 44. Author: GG Riva Date: Tue 30th Dec 2025. 06:13 Tad Allagash, Mon 29 Dec 20:13 OK, I`ll bite. Like the vast majority of ordinary people, I choose to fly economy rather than first/business class. I believe in spending money wisely rather than needlessly burning it. This may appear tight to you, but I`m confident that my kids and grandkids would tell you you`re well wide of the mark. 😁 Ryanair is a good budget airline, similar to easyJet and Jet2. I`ve flown with them on several occasions and have no complaints, but when there is a choice, I invariably choose another budget airline, even if it`s slightly dearer, for the reasons given further up. It`s the sneaky way they introduce additional costs after luring customers in with low basic fares. We fly to visit elderly relatives during the school holidays 4 times a year as we have grandparent duties at other times. At Easter, in summer and in October, we have a choice of carriers operating direct flights from Edinburgh to our destination. At Christmas/New Year, there`s only Ryanair, so it`s either them or fly via Lodon or Amsterdam...... Not your average Sunday League player. Reply |
| 45. Author: P Date: Tue 30th Dec 2025. 10:19 There is nothing sneaky about it at all, you would have to live under a rock not to know Ryanair and other budget airline’s practices. Ryanair while not suitable for you offers choice to others - suggesting they should change their pricing structure to suit your own circumstances, which would result in increased costs for other, is pretty entitled tbh. All the airlines are doing everything they can to extract your money so it’s only reasonable that you game them to suit yourself. Before booking any flight I go through an aggregator then through the booking process to know exactly the cost will be for what I need then I compare the alternatives (including connecting options) and select what suits me for whatever I am doing. I also check the cost to add a single bag later (since in booking it can mean a hold case for every passenger when often we only need one). Also if you want to sit together on easyJet you DO have to pay extra; “The system will try to seat people on the same booking together, but there is no guarantee, especially if the flight is busy or many other passengers have already chosen specific seats.” “The only reliable way to make sure two adults (or a group) sit next to each other is to pay for seat selection at booking or via Manage My Booking before check-in.” There is nothing ‘hidden’ it’s all clear and I can buy or not - it’s the consumers choice. Reply |
| 46. Author: Tad Allagash Date: Tue 30th Dec 2025. 11:50 Good post P. In the early days of budget airlines, people were suspicious of the low cost. Why is it so cheap? Are they using old knackered planes? Are their pilots qualified? So to give a plausible explanation for their low prices, Ryanair were deliberately explicit and transparent about the cost and unbundled all the ‘free’ stuff (drinks, food, newspapers, seat allocation, luggage allowance etc.). IKEA use a similar trick, selling you a bookcase for a scarcely believable £19 but the catch is you’ve got to assemble it yourself. The fact that Ryanair is the only carrier going from Edinburgh to GG’s destination (Naples?) over winter implies the other airlines can’t make a profit from it. Reply |
| 47. Author: parsfan Date: Tue 30th Dec 2025. 12:24 P, Tue 30 Dec 10:19 So, if it tries to put you together when it can (it always has for me), how is it able to do it for a price when it can`t? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The universe is ruled by chance and indifference  Reply |
| 48. Author: P Date: Tue 30th Dec 2025. 13:15 parsfan, Tue 30 Dec 12:24 I’m not sure I understand your statement but here is the exact clauses & clause numbers on their website to help you; “Seating 9.1 We operate an allocated seating system. You can select seats for a fee at the time of Booking or afterwards online. The fee varies depending on the seat category, the specific flight and when the seat is selected. Please see our Seating Policy and Fees and Charges for more details. Some of our fares include seat selection, as shown at time of Booking. All seats are conditional upon availability at the time you seek to select the seats. If you choose to select seats, you must do so for all Passengers on your Booking. 9.2 If you choose not to select a seat we will allocate one for you automatically when you check in. Our system will try to allocate you seats close to other Passengers on your Booking, but this depends on availability and is not guaranteed.” In my experience easyJet at least ‘try’ to put you together whereas Ryanair are more middle seat punitive Reply |
| 49. Author: jake89 Date: Tue 30th Dec 2025. 13:24 Ryanair put you where you`ll fit. Single travellers tend to leave a gap (assuming 3-3 layout) in the hope the middle seat is left free. Ryanair can`t afford empty seats. Reply |
| 50. Author: GG Riva Date: Tue 30th Dec 2025. 13:39 "In my experience easyJet at least ‘try’ to put you together whereas Ryanair are more middle seat punitive." Definitely the case in my experience. I`ve never selected seats in over 20 years of flying with easyJet, Jet2 and Ryanair. This is the first instance in which my wife and I have been allocated middle seats some distance apart. The flight was not full and the seats next to each of us were not allocated, so once all passengers were seated, I got her to come and sit next to me. All I`m saying is there`s no need for Ryanair to do that. Another argument for another day is that if I was to book the same flights to the same destination for next week, I could travel for just over half the basic fare. How can they still turn a profit at those prices but feel it necessary to charge extra for passengers to sit together when it can be done at no extra cost to the airline? I can`t imagine I`m alone in having decided that I`ll only use Ryanair when there`s no viable alternative direct flight. Not your average Sunday League player. Reply |
| 51. Author: parsfan Date: Tue 30th Dec 2025. 14:12 I`ll try another way. 1. I book a flight for three people. 2. The automatic seat allocation can`t get us all together. 3. Where will it find the seats to put us together if I pay? I`m not expecting you to know the answer or to defend them, it`s just something that crosses my mind whenever I fly with them. Most people don`t/won`t pay extra and that`s what makes it work for most people. I`m sure they`d like more to do so and create a panic buying-like situation where it became the norm. Similarly, Speedy Boarding, what if everyone paid for that? If you don`t pay for your seats at booking or prior to check-in, then the key thing is to check-in as early as you can. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The universe is ruled by chance and indifference Reply |
| 52. Author: Tad Allagash Date: Tue 30th Dec 2025. 15:11 ‘3. Where will it find the seats to put us together if I pay?’ I’m not sure, but if there are really no adjacent seats left, then I don’t think it will. I would imagine that the front row and emergency exits seats and the first few rows are held back for paying customers and won’t normally be randomly allocated to cheap skates. However, if no one has paid for the emergency exit seats, then someone will be allocated them as someone has to sit there. Reply |
| 53. Author: Playup_Pompey Date: Tue 30th Dec 2025. 15:28 My budget airline gripe is at the next stage. Ive paid for flight/seats/speedy boarding to sit with whoever im with, I board the flight with a rucksack and get told that it should go at my feet to keep room for bigger bags in the overhead lockers...What If i was using my full baggage allocation and had a larger bag/case do those coming on last just not get to bring the case with them? Ryanair used to let you volunteer your bag for check in and leave it at bottom of steps to get put in the hold which i would do if i didnt have a tight connection etc at the other end.  Reply |
| 54. Author: parsmad68 Date: Tue 30th Dec 2025. 15:56 GG Riva, Tue 30 Dec 13:39 GG I would raise that with the CAA. They are very responsive on such matters. That is unacceptable. Reply |
| 55. Author: fcda Date: Tue 30th Dec 2025. 16:53 easyJet are just as bad for extra fees. Went recently and seats weren`t together until I paid £8 per person per flight. Cabin bag (not hold bag) would have been about £40 extra per person per flight. We travelled light and crammed everything into small rucksacks instead. I know the fee structure so I`m content to use them when required. Often easy jet and Ryanair are the best options for direct flights. Reply |
| 56. Author: Tad Allagash Date: Tue 30th Dec 2025. 17:38 It’s a question of framing. You can think of it as charging extra to sit where you want. But it makes much more sense to say you’re getting a discount to sit in a crap seat that no one would pay for. If you frame it like that, then taking the discount and still complaining about your seat is ridiculous. If you follow GG’s logic, then you should be able to buy a second class train ticket and sit in an empty seat in first class as it’s ‘no extra cost’ to the train operator. But there is a cost as it devalues the first class ticket and therefore increases the price of the second class ticket. The real value of paying for a seat is that it massively reduces the chances of being sat next to a stag do, hen do or Falkirk fans. Reply |
| 57. Author: P Date: Tue 30th Dec 2025. 18:07 parsfan, Tue 30 Dec 14:12 They don’t allocate the seats, if you pay for seats you then get a map and pick the ones you want. If there aren’t 3 in a row then you select the best for you (I’ve never been on any that didn’t have 3 seat configuration though). If you don’t pay then it might try and allocate you together in easyJet’s case but since they don’t guarantee it then you’re at the mercy of the algorithm and could land anywhere Reply |
| 58. Author: GG Riva Date: Tue 30th Dec 2025. 18:26 parsmad68, Tue 30 Dec 15:56 Which matter are you referring to, Parsmad? Not your average Sunday League player. Reply |
| 59. Author: parsmad68 Date: Tue 30th Dec 2025. 18:40 GG Riva, Tue 30 Dec 18:26 It sounds like they deliberately seated you separately when the flight was not fully booked. This is against CAA guidance for safety. Reply |
| 60. Author: GG Riva Date: Tue 30th Dec 2025. 19:07 parsmad68, Tue 30 Dec 18:40 After our seats had been allocated, I received an email informing me that it was not too late for us to be seated together if I paid an extra £10 pp. This was less than 24 hours before flying as it`s another restriction imposed by the airline. If you select and pay for your seats you can check in 60 days beforehand otherwise it`s 24 hours. It`s a battle of wills. 😃 I`ll see what happens for our return flight, but I`m more minded to avoid them whenever possible than report them to the CAA. Not your average Sunday League player. Reply |
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