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| 1. Author: Hoolie Date: Tue 17th Mar 2026. 20:13 So Halal they just cut the neck of the chicken but we stun the chicken so it’s more or less dead before cutting the neck? Who the fek cares imo…these animals are born to be eaten…Does it really matter if the meat we eat is halal…why not just get rid of the stun gun and no bother? Reply |
| 2. Author: jake89 Date: Tue 17th Mar 2026. 20:56 Hoolie, Tue 17 Mar 20:13 Most halal slaughtered animals ARE stunned. Like 9/10 are. I`m more interested in the quality of the chicken than how it died. At the end of the day it was murdered for me to eat. Reply |
| 3. Author: red-star-par Date: Tue 17th Mar 2026. 21:21 Hoolie, Tue 17 Mar 20:13 I clicked on this thread, thinking, "here we go again", but I`m actually quite surprised the OP seems to be in favour of halal slaughter. We will need some more Muslims to work in the slaughterhouses if we are going to do it halal style I suppose Reply |
| 4. Author: Bletchley_Par Date: Tue 17th Mar 2026. 22:40
No there is more top both Halal and Kosher slaughter than that. but we stun the chicken so it’s more or less dead before cutting the neck? |
| 5. Author: jake89 Date: Wed 18th Mar 2026. 09:17 I`d make it mandatory to stun. Given the vast majority of halal slaughtered animals are stunned anyway then there`s surely no reason not to make it mandatory unless...oh, that`s right...forget I said anything. Reply |
| 6. Author: DBP Date: Wed 18th Mar 2026. 11:25 Why give people drugs to ease the pain when they’re terminal or bother treating/caring for them at all? were all going to die anyway Reply |
| 7. Author: buffy Date: Wed 18th Mar 2026. 13:04 DBP, Wed 18 Mar 11:25 I think yer on the wrong thread, DBP ”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019” Reply |
| 8. Author: hurricane_jimmy Date: Wed 18th Mar 2026. 13:54 It really should be based on humane slaughter and I can`t imagine that slicing an animals throat and letting it bleed out slowly, as is done in Halal slaughter, is humane. I`m pretty sure Denmark quite recently banned the religious-based slaughter protocols on their territory in favour of a more humanist approach. Of course, the religious (mostly Islamic) groups complained about their "religious rights" being infringed, but the Danish Government basically responded "Animal rights come above religious rights". Well done Denmark! Reply |
| 9. Author: DBP Date: Wed 18th Mar 2026. 13:59 buffy, Wed 18 Mar 13:04 No was just drawing a parallel to the op - were just animals after all as well Post Edited (Wed 18 Mar 14:00) Reply |
| 10. Author: Hoolie Date: Wed 18th Mar 2026. 16:53 Yeh but humans were bred to be eaten while cows/chickens are. Does it matter which way they are slaughtered? Stunning probably is the best way but they are going to get eaten anyway! Reply |
| 11. Author: jake89 Date: Wed 18th Mar 2026. 17:01 hurricane_jimmy, Wed 18 Mar 13:54 But most Halal slaughter IS stunned so what`s the issue in making it mandatory? Could it be that 0% of kosher slaughtered animals are stunned? Let`s be honest, it`s the 21st century and religious belief shouldn`t be coming into it. What if I follow a religion that believes animals should be forced to watch the Hollyoaks omnibus before being slaughtered? Reply |
| 12. Author: DBP Date: Wed 18th Mar 2026. 17:25 Hoolie, Wed 18 Mar 16:53 But why would you want to inflict any/ unnecessary pain and suffering? Reply |
| 13. Author: red-star-par Date: Wed 18th Mar 2026. 18:42 All animals should be stunned before being killed. The animals welfare needs to come before any religious reasons. Halal and Kosher foods are a load of nonsense, get them banned. Reply |
| 14. Author: Hoolie Date: Wed 18th Mar 2026. 19:26 I can see both points but but getting stunned or the knife it’s not really going to affect an animal that’s been bred for slaughter? 15/20 years ago nobody cared but I suppose social media has highlighted this and everyone has opinions! When I get my lamb/chicken Madras I don’t think or care if it’s halal…just if the curry or kebab is decent. Reply |
| 15. Author: jake89 Date: Wed 18th Mar 2026. 23:43 Hoolie, Wed 18 Mar 19:26 Stunned first is far more humane and there`s no reason not to make it mandatory. Religion should have no place in deciding things like animal slaughter. TBH, it shouldn`t really have any influence in society. Reply |
| 16. Author: Back_oh_the_net Date: Thu 19th Mar 2026. 03:31 This was posted on facebook a few months ago it puts to bed the myth that halal is totally inhumane **** UK Halal Meat **** 1. Most halal meat in the UK is stunned — exactly like non‑halal meat A common misconception is that halal = no stunning. In reality: The majority of halal meat in the UK is stunned before slaughter. The stun used is the same type used in standard UK slaughterhouses. The Food Standards Agency has repeatedly confirmed this. The only difference is that the stun must be reversible — meaning the animal could recover if slaughter didn’t follow immediately. This is a welfare safeguard, not a cruelty loophole. So for most halal meat, the slaughter process is identical to non‑halal. 2. Non‑stun slaughter exists in the UK — but it is not exclusive to halal If someone claims they object to halal because of “non‑stun slaughter,” then they should also object to: Kosher (Shechita) slaughter, which never uses stunning Non‑stun slaughter for non‑religious reasons, which is also legally permitted in some cases Standard UK slaughter, which still involves practices many people would find distressing if they saw them Yet strangely, the outrage is almost always directed at halal alone. That selective outrage tells its own story. 3. Halal certification requires higher welfare standards before slaughter To be certified halal, the animal must: Be healthy, uninjured, and stress‑free Be well cared for before slaughter Be treated humanely at all stages Be fed properly and not mistreated Be handled gently and not frightened Not witness other animals being slaughtered These are stricter welfare requirements than many non‑halal systems demand. In other words: Halal rules place more emphasis on the animal’s life than many standard UK systems do. 4. UK law regulates halal slaughter tightly All halal slaughter in the UK must comply with: The Animal Welfare Act The Welfare of Animals at the Time of Killing Regulations Food Standards Agency oversight On‑site vets in slaughterhouses Halal slaughter is not some unregulated free‑for‑all — it is one of the most monitored systems in the country. 5. If someone’s issue is “animal welfare,” then the outrage should be consistent If the concern is genuinely about animal welfare, then logically they should also be upset about: Intensive farming Long‑distance live transport Overcrowded sheds Battery‑style poultry systems Non‑stun kosher slaughter Standard slaughterhouse practices that are far from idyllic But that outrage rarely appears. Which is why many people see the halal‑only complaints as selective, inconsistent, or culturally motivated rather than welfare‑motivated. Reply |
| 17. Author: Thaipar Date: Fri 20th Mar 2026. 11:37 DBP, Wed 18 Mar 17:25 I`ve opted for your way dpp,I've been diagnosed with cancer and opted for no drugs Post Edited (Fri 20 Mar 11:38) Reply |
| 18. Author: Stanza Date: Sun 22nd Mar 2026. 23:14 It`s a slight deviation of the thread from HOW adult animals are killed for our consumption, but perhaps we should think not just about HOW, but also about WHY. Our food industry also depends on millions of very young animals being killed as well, often for pet food, as well as the killing of young and adult animals long before their natural life expectancy. Chickens from hens in the egg industry are sexed at one day old, with the "useless" male ones being immediately killed, nowadays mostly in gas chambers or by maceration. Many thousand male calves from dairy cattle are killed on-farm within a few days of birth. This has been reducing with sex-specific semen and action by supermarkets with schemes to encourage rearing the calves for veal or beef, but it still happens - annual estimates are 60k in the UK, 400k in Australia. There is still a very early death for those reared for veal (6-8 months) or beef (12-14 months). Even the female dairy cows don`t have great lives. They are forced into pregnancy each year so they give milk, then killed at 5-6 years old (natural life expectancy is 20-25). Young calves of both sexes are often separated from their mothers very early and reared elsewhere, with emotional pain on both sides (I live rurally, and hear the bellowing of the mothers when this happens.) All this happens in the UK, where animal welfare standards are relatively high. Other countries may treat animals even worse. I am NOT a vegetarian - I enjoy a bacon butty or a katzu chicken and I will probably continue to put my fingers in my ears about my own hypocrisy. I won`t see it, but I suspect in a few generations the idea of eating other sentient animals might be as horrific as the idea of slavery is to us today. _________________  Support Dunfermline Athletic Disabled Supporters` Club (DADSC) when you shop online with one of 8000 firms: http://www.easyfundraising.org.uk/causes/dadsc[Reply |
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