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| 1. Author: LochgellyAlbert Date: Fri 1st Mar 2024. 08:52 So as Scotland`s only oil refinery is set to close, Ratcliffe is going to build the biggest petrochemical plant in Europe in Antwerp, Westminster giving a £600million guarantee. Glad he`s doing something with all that money he has saved in tax by moving to Monaco apart from his investment in Manchester United. Wait till Forth freeport starts up, then he`ll be back like a shot!🤬🤬🤬 Reply |
| 2. Author: Dave_1885 Date: Fri 1st Mar 2024. 09:04 GG Riva, Fri 1 Mar 07:24 Aye but we are Better Together and better out of the EU mind! Reply |
| 3. Author: jake89 Date: Fri 1st Mar 2024. 14:20 Forgive my ignorance, but why is the UK government giving a Monaco resident £600m for a building in Belgium??? Reply |
| 4. Author: LochgellyAlbert Date: Fri 1st Mar 2024. 14:23 Because he`s a Tory donor!🤔💰💰💰💰 Reply |
| 5. Author: jake89 Date: Fri 1st Mar 2024. 15:11 But what excuse/reason are they offering? It doesn`t appear to benefit the UK unless it`s a case of essentially transferring UK pollution to Belgium. Reply |
| 6. Author: Tenruh Date: Fri 1st Mar 2024. 15:19 LochgellyAlbert, Fri 1 Mar 08:52 Allegedly if your in a freeport zone there`s limited restrictions on business, might just open the doors to fracking ? https://yoursforscotlandcom.wordpress.com/2024/03/01/the-freeport-ruse-exposed-2/#respond https://yoursforscotlandcom.wordpress.com/2024/03/01/salvo-acts-on-freeports/#respond Post Edited (Fri 01 Mar 15:24) Reply |
| 7. Author: LochgellyAlbert Date: Fri 1st Mar 2024. 16:02 Ratcliffe was a great supporter of fracking, Fife would be prime land! Any petrochemical workers on this site? Hounds Point would be redundant. Are there not pipelines from Edinburgh Airport and Mossmoran to Grangemouth? Reply |
| 8. Author: jake89 Date: Fri 1st Mar 2024. 16:33 No, but seriously, I don`t get this. The UK taxpayer is gifting £600m to a "British" business whose owner is based abroad to avoid paying tax in the UK to build a massive plastic making factory in another country with no British jobs being created as a result, and at a time when we are trying to REDUCE plastic use and encourage more plastic recycling? Where is the benefit to the UK? This sounds an awful lot like we`re giving more money to a rich old man who doesn`t need it. Reply |
| 9. Author: Tenruh Date: Fri 1st Mar 2024. 17:24 [url]https://open.substack.com/pub/dearscotland/p/elino-one-cheek-of-the-same-backside?r=hzhx5&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email[/url] Reply |
| 10. Author: LochgellyAlbert Date: Fri 1st Mar 2024. 17:33 ⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️ Sums it up!!! Reply |
| 11. Author: Buspasspar Date: Fri 1st Mar 2024. 18:20 This is one serious feked up Country The new government will need years to fix (if it can be fixed) from the gross missmanagement by the worst government in my lifetime There is still the budget to come and the Tory`s will make sure the rich are rewarded at the poors expense yet again They will make it almost immposible for a Labour government to undo the damage I despise All the Tory Scum . just saying We are forever shaped by the Children we once were Reply |
| 12. Author: LochgellyAlbert Date: Tue 26th Mar 2024. 09:10 Well they posted a £100 million in profits, strange that they want to close it!🤔💩 Reply |
| 13. Author: jake89 Date: Tue 26th Mar 2024. 09:14 Because it needs £101m in repairs. If it were truly making £100m and could do for the foreseeable then the Scottish Government would nationalise it. What makes no sense to me is the money sent to Belgium! Reply |
| 14. Author: LochgellyAlbert Date: Tue 26th Mar 2024. 13:34 Under 80 million to refurbish apparently. Reply |
| 15. Author: Tenruh Date: Tue 26th Mar 2024. 13:50 The only energy rich country without a refinery...even England`s got one and they have a fraction of oil which we have...odd that. Och never mind the nuSNP and Greens will ensure we`ll not be producing oil after 2030. Reply |
| 16. Author: jake89 Date: Tue 26th Mar 2024. 13:57 England has more than one. £80m to refurb isn`t insignificant. Reply |
| 17. Author: LochgellyAlbert Date: Thu 29th Aug 2024. 07:59 [url]https://archive.is/2024.08.27-210324/https://www.energyvoice.com/oilandgas/north-sea/refining/556754/stanlow-refinery-to-expand-after-grangemouth-closes/[/url] Reply |
| 18. Author: jake89 Date: Thu 29th Aug 2024. 08:17 Saw the plant recently and it`s massive. Happened to get a very significant government bung not too long ago. Funny that. Personally, I welcome a move away from fossil fuels but only where there is a viable alternative. It seems incredibly daft to move the refinement of Scottish oil to a plant 250 miles away in another country. Scottish Labour surely have a way of justifying this being supported by their UK colleagues? Reply |
| 19. Author: The One Who Knocks Date: Thu 29th Aug 2024. 09:37 It`s a business decision. Ineos and the Chinese company that owns the refinery obviously feel that it no longer makes economic sense to keep it running. And although my eyes were open They just might as well be closed Reply |
| 20. Author: jake89 Date: Thu 29th Aug 2024. 13:05 Well, it`s certainly a "business decision" but one that appears very questionable, particularly when another site that received billions of UK Gov funding is now going to take up the slack. Some of the lines on it don`t even make sense. Less North Sea oil being refined yet they`ll now turn it into a terminal where that oil will then be transported down south for refinement. The site is too old yet Liverpool is creating a new site to pick up the slack. So rather than upgrade or build a new facility where the oil comes in, it`s somehow more efficient to put that oil in tankers, drive it 250 miles and have it refined at a newly built plant? Reply |