Topic: It keeps getting better for Labour |
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1. Author: Buspasspar Date: Tue 23rd Jul 2024. 20:33 Jeezo Former foreign secretary and home secretary James Cleverly has confirmed he is running to become the next Conservative Party leader. The Braintree MP, who is currently shadow home secretary, posted a video on social media announcing his candidacy on Tuesday evening. We are forever shaped by the Children we once were Reply |
2. Author: DBP Date: Tue 23rd Jul 2024. 20:42 And Labour have just suspended the whip for six months from seven mps, including John McDonnell and Rebecca Long-Bailey, after voting against the government on an amendment to scrap the two-child benefit cap! Reply |
3. Author: LochgellyAlbert Date: Tue 23rd Jul 2024. 22:29 DBP, Tue 23 Jul 20:42 Any Scottish Labour MP`S in the list? Sarwar U turn coming up! Reply |
4. Author: LochgellyAlbert Date: Tue 23rd Jul 2024. 22:46 LochgellyAlbert, Tue 23 Jul 22:29 37 Scottish Labour MP`S voted against lifting the cap, some "Change" Reply |
5. Author: desparado Date: Tue 23rd Jul 2024. 22:53 Absolutely disgusting from all Scottish Red Tory MP’s. What did we expect though ? What an opportunity we missed in 2014. Reply |
6. Author: Andrew283 Date: Wed 24th Jul 2024. 01:11 Labour and Tories. Same erse different cheek. Oh to have a true left wing party to vote for Reply |
7. Author: wee eck Date: Wed 24th Jul 2024. 08:44 Being in government is all about setting priorities and making choices. In opposition you can just rail about the lack of expenditure in certain areas without saying how you would finance it. We see it all the time at Holyrood. It`s hard to understand how a Labour government would not have made the abolition of the two-child rule a priority. Reply |
8. Author: jake89 Date: Wed 24th Jul 2024. 09:25 This is already going as I anticipated. Scottish Labour and UK Labour do NOT align yet the SLab MPs are whipped to follow the UK party. So we`ll have Labour in Holyrood saying on thing and Labour in Westminster saying another. They`re a complete mess. Reply |
9. Author: red-star-par Date: Wed 24th Jul 2024. 14:37 jake89, Wed 24 Jul 09:25 One of the many reasons I can no longer vote for Labour, they talk a good game in opposition, but every time that they have had a chance to do something that will help alleviate poverty they prove themselves to be the red wing of the Conservative Party Reply |
10. Author: DBP Date: Wed 24th Jul 2024. 16:12 jake89, Wed 24 Jul 09:25 Exactly …and the weird thing is people up here thought it would be different - equal partner is a myth given the difference in conurbations and Scotland is still nothing more than a branch office Post Edited (Wed 24 Jul 16:28) Reply |
11. Author: DBA Date: Wed 24th Jul 2024. 22:41 Ian Murray was interviewed last week and questioned on this issue. His response: "We have to make choices in our manifesto". When pushed on the fact that the government can prioritise the important parts of the manifesto, he started wandering off into the "everything must be costed" matra, despite numerous examples give to him of how they could afford lifting the cap - including Inheritance Tax changes that doesn`t affect the vast majority of the working cladding. It`s really shameful from Labour, and the fact that they are suspending MPs due to this is unbelievable. Living up to the tag "Red Tories" without even realising it. Reply |
12. Author: LochgellyAlbert Date: Thu 25th Jul 2024. 08:41 It`s strange that the leader of Scottish Labour hasn`t been seen nor questioned about the vote, or how about Baillie? She is usually good at spouting p*sh! Reply |
13. Author: Parboiled Date: Thu 25th Jul 2024. 10:54 I see Martin Lewis the financial guru has been explaining this is not a cap on child benefit, it’s to do with universal credits and tax credits. I confess I’m totally baffled, we just had a family allowance book back in the day! Reply |
14. Author: LochgellyAlbert Date: Thu 25th Jul 2024. 17:21 The "cap" is aimed at those with more than 2 children, so the "righteous" ones are now saying it`s quite right to not give money to those that get pregnant with more than 2 children. They should have thought about their finances before having them ! Then you get the situation when couples break up, loose their jobs or worse, one of them passes away, are the children not to be supported? No doubt Labour will do it before the 2026 Holyrood election to give Sarwar a boost!🤔🤬 Post Edited (Thu 25 Jul 17:25) Reply |
15. Author: DBP Date: Thu 25th Jul 2024. 17:41 Of course we shouldn’t provide for families who selfishly have a third child… keeping children in poverty is the only way to ensure we create a better society for us all Reply |
16. Author: jake89 Date: Thu 25th Jul 2024. 20:13 The simplest way of explaining it is you get no benefits for any more than two kids. Like anything, it makes sense on paper - there needs to be a limit. However, the notion that people are procreating for a few quid a month is laughable at best. Children cost far more than you`re getting in benefits so it`s a false economy. The issue with benefits generally is they`re intended to be a safety net rather than a way of life. Unfortunately, over the past decade or two we`ve seen workers rights diluted to a point that you`re often better off on benefits than working. Benefits like UC are massively abused by big companies like Starbucks and Costa. People are going week to week not knowing what hours they`ll work. Rents are sky high, energy bills are sky high, food prices are sky high. The country is broken and capping child benefits will only result in one thing - more hungry kids. What happened to all the talk of going after these big companies? What happened with that JCB guy who owes HMRC £500m? Reply |
17. Author: AdamAntsParsStripe Date: Thu 25th Jul 2024. 21:37 With the SNP on the rebound and losing support, they really should take the bull by the horn and mitigate it in Holyrood. That sends the right message that they can change as well and try get voters back onside. Take the fight to Labour as they did impressively up till 2015 Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte Reply |
18. Author: jake89 Date: Fri 26th Jul 2024. 07:29 There`s no money to mitigate yet another poor Westminster policy. Reply |
19. Author: LochgellyAlbert Date: Fri 26th Jul 2024. 09:42 Tax rises coming in? Get stuck into the offshore accounts, or have Labour supporters got a few bob stashed away? Where`s Michelle Mone when you need her? Reply |
20. Author: Buspasspar Date: Fri 26th Jul 2024. 11:35 I think its the only way to try and fix the total mess they have been left by the Tory`s incompetence with our money LA :-( We are forever shaped by the Children we once were Reply |