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Topic: Grangemouth Refinery
21. Author: jake89 Date: Thu 6th Feb 2025. 17:45 Nothing. It`s a private company and they have made their decision. Ministers already engaged and got nowhere. The Scottish Government can`t afford £150m to keep it going and, as stated in the piece you`ve shared, the UK Government have more interest in supporting a refinery in Belgium than one in the UK. What I would`ve hoped would be the Labour party might reconsider the Belgium plan but clearly they have no interest in doing so, reassuring me that no unionist party has Scotland`s best interests at heart. This is another reason why I`d prefer Scotland to go its own way. Yes, it would still be limited in what it could control when it has a much larger neighbour who would no doubt intentionally attempt to sabotage things, but it`s doing that as part of the union anyway! What would you have done that`s different? Reply
22. Author: Tenruh Date: Thu 6th Feb 2025. 18:31 jake89, Thu 6 Feb 17:45 Nothing. It`s a private company and they have made their decision. Ministers already engaged and got nowhere. The Scottish Government can`t afford £150m to keep it going and, as stated in the piece you`ve shared, the UK Government have more interest in supporting a refinery in Belgium than one in the UK. What I would`ve hoped would be the Labour party might reconsider the Belgium plan but clearly they have no interest in doing so, reassuring me that no unionist party has Scotland`s best interests at heart. This is another reason why I`d prefer Scotland to go its own way. Yes, it would still be limited in what it could control when it has a much larger neighbour who would no doubt intentionally attempt to sabotage things, but it`s doing that as part of the union anyway! What would you have done that`s different? Since the 70's I've voted SNP, but unfortunately, they`ve promised so much and delivered nothing, especially since they`ve gone over the last 10 year`s to favouring devolution over independence . We need fighters in power and not skiters . Going forward, I`ll not be voting for any party or individual who`s prepared to take the oath to another countries Monarch. Maybe vote for folk like Eva Comrie with the list vote next year. Post Edited (Thu 06 Feb 18:39) Reply
23. Author: Tenruh Date: Thu 6th Feb 2025. 19:30 Good for Colin...stick it up them. [url]https://youtu.be/PdJThDwqEMU?si=RRHMoiEx7UQjNCxa[/url] Reply
24. Author: wee eck Date: Thu 6th Feb 2025. 19:55 Did Sarwar not realise it was a private company when he was campaigning for Labour in the General Election? Reply
25. Author: jake89 Date: Thu 6th Feb 2025. 20:51 wee eck, Thu 6 Feb 19:55 Did Sarwar not realise it was a private company when he was campaigning for Labour in the General Election? Sarwar who also said how great GB energy would be by bringing thousands of jobs to Scotland? Reply
26. Author: desparado Date: Fri 7th Feb 2025. 10:40 Saw his interview yesterday it was appalling. He categorically stated during the election campaign that a vote for Labour would save Grangemouth. Now he says that there is nothing they can do as it is run by a private company. The same private company that UK Gov are giving £600 million to, to build a plant in Belgium. He then goes on to blame the Tories and the SNP for doing nothing when they knew it was going to close years ago. Did they ? And if they did then surely there was nothing they could do as it’s owned by a private company. The big question that needs to be asked again and again is why UK Gov are giving money to help build a new plant in an EU country but refusing to spend a penny to save Grangemouth. Better together eh ? An equal partner in the family of nations ! Aye right…. But this is what we voted for in 2014, to just watch helplessly from the sidelines. What an opportunity we missed in 2014. Reply
27. Author: Tenruh Date: Wed 19th Feb 2025. 07:10 Honest John`s just throwing some money at it hoping it goes away. Pity they didn`t put up a fight to keep it... [url]https://www.facebook.com/share/1DjZAYWLYi/[/url] Reply
28. Author: Tenruh Date: Sun 23rd Feb 2025. 13:50 [url]https://grousebeater.wordpress.com/2025/02/22/the-man-who-gambolled-too-much/[/url] Reply
29. Author: The One Who Knocks Date: Sun 23rd Feb 2025. 15:01 Starmer announces a £200m investment into Grangemouth from the UK government. The move has been tentatively welcomed by the unions. And although my eyes were open They just might as well be closed Reply
30. Author: wee eck Date: Sun 23rd Feb 2025. 16:09 It`s not clear how quickly this money will have an effect on employment at Grangemouth. They are also saying anyone made redundant will be entitled to 18 months` pay. Reply
31. Author: Gun Mechanic Par Date: Sun 23rd Feb 2025. 16:52 It`s to far gone. We have people leaving from April onwards. Only 3 units are left on, and we are decommissioning the rest now. And yes, we are getting 18-month redundancy. It`s too little too late for the staff. Reply
32. Author: Tenruh Date: Sun 23rd Feb 2025. 17:24 And we`ve lost our refinery to Belgium. Reply
33. Author: Gun Mechanic Par Date: Sun 23rd Feb 2025. 18:09 I hear your point reference the funding to Belgium, but it`s not a crude refinery like Grangemouth. it`s a different cracker for chemicals. Reply
34. Author: Raymie the Legend Date: Sun 23rd Feb 2025. 21:49 18 month redundancy is pretty good. It gives folks a decent window to find something else. It`s bloody tough being a legend Ron Atkinson - 1983 Reply
35. Author: JTH123 Date: Sun 23rd Feb 2025. 22:00 Aye its a shame the government were nowhere to be seen when 250 of us at Havelock were put out the door in Aug `19 with not even the previous month`s wages. Redundancy payments were capped to the absolute minimum. I had 36 years service and got about 3 months money. Reply
36. Author: desparado Date: Sun 23rd Feb 2025. 23:35 Thames Water, a Privately owned company just like Ineos is getting a £3 billion bail out from U.K. tax payers…….I wonder what Sarwar will have to say..? I still have not heard any U.K. Gov politician explain why by giving Ineos £600 million for their plant in Belgium and by association boosting the Belgian economy makes more sense than spending a similar amount to save Grangemouth, bearing in mind the economic damage Scotland will suffer with the closure. It leads me to believe that it can only be deliberate. Wilful economic damage to Scotland in an attempt to make the prospect of independence much more difficult to achieve in their eyes. What an opportunity we missed in 2014. Reply
37. Author: The One Who Knocks Date: Sun 23rd Feb 2025. 23:59 Thames Water isn`t getting a £3 billion loan from taxpayers. It`s a high interest loan from it`s current creditors. And although my eyes were open They just might as well be closed Reply
38. Author: P Date: Mon 24th Feb 2025. 04:03 desparado, Sun 23 Feb 23:35 I still have not heard any U.K. Gov politician explain why by giving Ineos £600 million for their plant in Belgium and by association boosting the Belgian economy makes more sense than spending a similar amount to save Grangemouth, bearing in mind the economic damage Scotland will suffer with the closure. In the interests of being factual the UK gov is not ‘giving Ineos £600million’. They are providing a loan guarantee for a petrochemical plant that will bring plastic production to Europe on a scale not seen before - which massively increases plastic waste. “In a significant development, the UK government has committed to providing a financial guarantee of EUR 700 million to Ineos, led by billionaire Jim Ratcliffe, for the construction of Project One.” Reply
39. Author: Raymie the Legend Date: Mon 24th Feb 2025. 06:07 JTH123, Sun 23 Feb 22:00 Aye its a shame the government were nowhere to be seen when 250 of us at Havelock were put out the door in Aug `19 with not even the previous month`s wages. Redundancy payments were capped to the absolute minimum. I had 36 years service and got about 3 months money. That’s ****. It`s bloody tough being a legend Ron Atkinson - 1983 Reply
40. Author: alwaysaPar Date: Mon 24th Feb 2025. 13:05 wee eck, Sun 23 Feb 16:09 It`s not clear how quickly this money will have an effect on employment at Grangemouth. They are also saying anyone made redundant will be entitled to 18 months` pay. Starmer jumping on this, Petroineos had already agreed to this with the consultation period last year that the workers would get 18 months redundancy....... Reply

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