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| 21. Author: jake89 Date: Sat 19th Apr 2025. 14:42 Playing Devil`s advocate here, but what`s the role of the US in all of this anyway? Wars happening the other side of the world so why involve them or their military? Why expect them to choose a side? Could it be these wars benefit them as they can donate weapons in return for favours in future? Reply |
| 22. Author: Tenruh Date: Sat 19th Apr 2025. 17:15 Yanks have got their finger in every pie.... Who`s the biggest warmonger between the USA, China, and Russia ? Well, one has only one military base out with their mainland. Another has two and the third one in excess of 170 bases. https://open.substack.com/pub/dearscotland/p/late-imperial-maladies?r=hzhx5&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email Post Edited (Sat 19 Apr 17:18) Reply |
| 23. Author: Andrew283 Date: Sun 20th Apr 2025. 02:11 Not to sound racist but Jewish people have infiltrated us politics at the highest level. Israels future is secured. Genocidal bastards Reply |
| 24. Author: red-star-par Date: Sun 20th Apr 2025. 09:55 Andrew283, Sun 20 Apr 02:11 You will get labelled all sorts for saying it, but I`d say that`s true, and the same can be said for the UK. You can see how they have Trump dangling like a puppet on a string. 1000s of foreign students at American Universities are being detained and having their visas revoked for speaking our over the Israeli genocide and ethnic cleansing taking place in Palestine. Here you have Israeli politicians who are under international arrest warrants sneaking in to meet the foreign secretary. It`s all wrong Reply |
| 25. Author: The One Who Knocks Date: Sun 20th Apr 2025. 12:41 I think you`d get labelled all sorts for saying it because it`s repeating anti semetic tropes of Jews somehow controlling the world. Zelenski must be wondering when, as a Jew, it`ll be his turn to run things. Maybe he`s not the right kind of Jew, that must be what it is. I think when you say that Jewish people have infiltrated politics you mean Israeli lobbyists have maneuvered themselves into positions of influence Much like Saudi Arabian and Qatari lobbyists have as well but I wouldn`t imagine for a second you`d say that Muslims have infiltrated politics in the UK because the UK government is doing business with these states. And although my eyes were open They just might as well be closed Reply |
| 26. Author: OzPar Date: Mon 21st Apr 2025. 05:20 TOWK, you and I have crossed swords on this and related issues for quite some time, and I doubt we will ever fully see eye to eye. However, I have always appreciated the generally respectful way you engage with my views and opinions, even when we disagree. So, with that in mind, let me say I fully support the right of every individual, including members of the Jewish community, to practice their religion freely and without fear. At the same time, I believe it is crucial to recognise that criticisms of the policies or actions of the Israeli government, particularly concerning Gaza and the West Bank, should not be automatically labelled as anti-Semitism. Using the charge of anti-Semitism to silence legitimate debate or dissent is not only unfair, but it also risks undermining genuine efforts to combat real prejudice. It is essential for the health of any society that we can discuss and criticise political actions openly, while retaining respect for each other. I want to address one final point of yours, TOWK. You argue that it is not Jews as a whole, but rather Zionists, who have become influential in Western politics. I understand the distinction you are making, but it can serve as a convenient way to avoid acknowledging the significant role that specific Jewish organisations and individuals play in our politics. You have compared this influence to Saudi Arabia and Qatar, but the dynamics are not directly comparable. The historical context, the nature of the advocacy, and how these influences are applied are quite different. My key concern is that all forms of political influence should be subject to the same level of public scrutiny and open discussion. At present, certain pro-Israeli lobby groups seem to be intent on leading us down a perilous path where dissent is silenced, sometimes quite aggressively. Reply |
| 27. Author: Tad Allagash Date: Mon 21st Apr 2025. 10:10 No one is being silenced - least of all the anti-Semites. TOWK is right - change the word Jewish to any other race and we’d all agree it’s racist. The word infiltrate is interesting - it implies they they’re the enemy. Reply |
| 28. Author: Dandy Warhol Date: Mon 21st Apr 2025. 12:10 Tad Allagash, Mon 21 Apr 10:10 I look at Palestine and think yeah, they are an enemy. I don`t wanna go down like disco. Reply |
| 29. Author: OzPar Date: Mon 21st Apr 2025. 12:13 “No one is being silenced”… What a clownish comment. Reply |
| 30. Author: Tad Allagash Date: Mon 21st Apr 2025. 13:03 Multiple threads, dozens of posts/rants on here. But you’re being silenced? I don’t want anyone silenced by the way. Reply |
| 31. Author: OzPar Date: Mon 21st Apr 2025. 13:20 We are talking about people in various countries who are being silenced for making anti Israeli comments. Nothing to do with posts on dotnet. Reply |
| 32. Author: hurricane_jimmy Date: Mon 21st Apr 2025. 14:00 There is absolutely a deliberate attempt - both politically and in the media - to conflate the terms anti-Zionist with anti-Semitic. The whole Israel-Palestine situation highlights for me why Christianity, Islam and Judaism are absolutely poison for the mind and society. Likud and their even-further-right coalition partners are just Jewish Nazis and then Hamas, Hezbollah etc are Islamist terrorists. Apparently though, it is apparently acceptable to side with the Saudi Salafists but ostracise Iran when really both of them should be out in the cold. Then you have the Evangelical Y`all Qaeda MAGA movement in the US which is just brain dead beyond belief. I absolutely support a Palestinian state and a free Iran but, having worked closely with Palestinians and Persians and asking them quite in depth about the situation, simply cannot stomach supporting the current power structures that exist in either place going forward. Both peoples deserve better. As do the Kurds. What really has me scratching my head though is why Labour and Tory are both so keen to give the Zionazis running Israel a free pass. Only thing I can figure is that they think it`s better to have the Jews in control of the Holy Land than the Muslims. Either that or their are bungs going on. Probably a combination of both tbh. The enemy is politicised religion. Reply |
| 33. Author: Tenruh Date: Mon 21st Apr 2025. 14:30 Think Little England are just following their masters instructions. Reply |
| 34. Author: Wotsit Date: Thu 1st May 2025. 17:56 The new Louis Theroux documentary is a reminder of why you almost never see Israeli settlers interviewed in western media. The enemy travels by private jet, not by dinghy. Reply |
| 35. Author: DunfyDave Date: Fri 2nd May 2025. 11:08 Wotsit, Thu 1 May 17:56 ^^^ It was an incredibly hard viewing. The arrogance and sense of entitlement shines through. DunfyDave Reply |
| 36. Author: jake89 Date: Fri 2nd May 2025. 12:22 The issue that still exists is people can`t tell the difference between an Israelite and a Jew. Israel isn`t a football team (well...) and neither is Palestine. It`s not a case that all the Jews support Israel and all the Muslims support Palestine. There is right and wrong on BOTH sides and a balanced approach needs to be taken. Right now it feels like a blind eye is being turned to what Israel has done and continues to do. Reply |