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21. Author:  Dave_1885        
Date: Fri 10th Oct 2025. 11:57

Ceasefire now in effect, IDF troops withdrawn to back positions, hostages and prisoners due to be released in the next 72 hours and 600 trucks of aid a day expected to flow into the country.

Hopefully this is the start of every lasting peace within Palestine.

Big question is though will the IDF allow international journalists into the region to allow proper reporting now?

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22. Author:  red-star-par        
Date: Fri 10th Oct 2025. 14:12

Dave_1885, Fri 10 Oct 11:57

Ceasefire now in effect, IDF troops withdrawn to back positions, hostages and prisoners due to be released in the next 72 hours and 600 trucks of aid a day expected to flow into the country.

Hopefully this is the start of every lasting peace within Palestine.

Big question is though will the IDF allow international journalists into the region to allow proper reporting now?


Doubt it Dave. That would show the full horror of the genocide to the world. I`d imagine what will happen, is once the Israeli hostages have been released, Israel will find a way to go back on the deal, and won`t realise their Palestinian hostages, then will resume destroying the final 10% of the country.

I hope not, but they`ve been the party that have broke every deal they`ve had with Hamas, they are not to be trusted

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23. Author:  OzPar        
Date: Sat 11th Oct 2025. 06:03

Palestinians are returning to the north and beginning to recover bodies from under the rubble across the ruins of Gaza. This may take years. UN agencies and relief organisations estimate the real number of casualties in Gaza is not 68,000, but in the hundreds of thousands, indeed possibly as high as a million.

If true, it is right to call it genocide, but given its scale and intensity, and who are the perpetrators, then holocaust is a more appropriate term. For they have utterly defaced their own history.

Israel`s actions these past two years are almost beyond comprehension. Its defenders will point to October 7th, 2023, but, in context, that was simply a catalyst to accelerate a murderous process that has been carried out by Israel for 80 years.

International pressure will surely see UN forces, international journalists, and relief agencies move into Gaza long before the likes of Trump and Kushner, and other real estate developers get their hands on the place.

The truth must come out, and those responsible for the evil acts on both sides must face the judges in The Hague.



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24. Author:  red-star-par        
Date: Sat 11th Oct 2025. 11:28

That`s what should happen OzPar, but I`ve got a funny feeling that it won`t. Israel have got friends in all the right places, they will just resume the genocide soon enough I fear

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25. Author:  Dandy Warhol        
Date: Sat 11th Oct 2025. 14:18

As soon as the hostages are handed over, the rat Israel will resume the genocide and the wealthy rats will buy up the land.

I don`t wanna go down like disco.

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26. Author:  Back_oh_the_net        
Date: Sat 11th Oct 2025. 22:12

And the silence from western leaders will be deafening

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27. Author:  OzPar        
Date: Sun 12th Oct 2025. 00:35

But the sound of wave after wave of Iranian hypersonic rockets landing precisely on their targets in Tel Aviv might wake them up.



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28. Author:  jake89        
Date: Sun 12th Oct 2025. 09:00

Dandy Warhol, Sat 11 Oct 14:18

As soon as the hostages are handed over, the rat Israel will resume the genocide and the wealthy rats will buy up the land.


It sounds like something worse going on right now - Palestinians fighting with Hamas who have declared ownership of regions of Gaza.

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29. Author:  Dave_1885        
Date: Sun 12th Oct 2025. 09:38

jake89, Sun 12 Oct 09:00

Dandy Warhol, Sat 11 Oct 14:18

As soon as the hostages are handed over, the rat Israel will resume the genocide and the wealthy rats will buy up the land.


It sounds like something worse going on right now - Palestinians fighting with Hamas who have declared ownership of regions of Gaza.


Civil war will most likely break out once aid starts flowing in and the Israelis back out. It doesn’t help that the Israelis have also helped to arm local clans, along with them raiding Hamas stores after the occupation.

What really should happen is that a UN peace keeping force should enter the territory to allow for aid to go out and proper reporting to be done, but it wont happen. Cases like Somalia in the 90s will deter them from going in I think.

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30. Author:  OzPar        
Date: Sun 12th Oct 2025. 12:08

I am extremely cautious of BBC spin these days. Their Hamas story is sourced in Jerusalem. Jeremy Bowen comes across as an Israeli patsy. A poor replacement for journalistic giants like Robert Fisk, John Pilger, and Christopher Hitchens, who in the past covered the Middle East with independence and integrity.



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31. Author:  Back_oh_the_net        
Date: Mon 13th Oct 2025. 02:05

Get John simpson on the case

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32. Author:  desparado        
Date: Mon 13th Oct 2025. 14:55

Topic Originator: sadindiefreak
Date: Fri 26 Sep 10:19

Quote:

desparado, Fri 26 Sept 08:59

I personally believe that the Israelis knew about Oct 7th and allowed it to happen. There is plenty info out there that supports this.

Microsoft has just ended it’s AI data services with the Israeli military which was used for mass surveillance of the Palestinians. All mobile phone calls could be stored and listened too.

There is no way that Israel did not know about the attack on Oct 7th.

The fact that it apparently took them 6 hours to respond tells a story…


They did know, Egyptian security services told them a few days before.
The trouble is they didn`t believe it was going to happen and at what scale.

In 1982 six weeks before the Falklands War Thatcher was told that Argentina were planning to attack. It even appeared in an article in The Guardian.
She also didn`t believe it.



It’s not a question….in my mind….that Israel did not believe the attack would happen…..more so that the KNEW the attack would happen and let it happen…

I wonder how long it will be before they either break the cease fire or move their attention elsewhere…..Iran ?

What an opportunity we missed in 2014.

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33. Author:  Tenruh        
Date: Mon 13th Oct 2025. 19:19

desparado, Mon 13 Oct 14:55

Topic Originator: sadindiefreak
Date: Fri 26 Sep 10:19

Quote:

desparado, Fri 26 Sept 08:59

I personally believe that the Israelis knew about Oct 7th and allowed it to happen. There is plenty info out there that supports this.

Microsoft has just ended it’s AI data services with the Israeli military which was used for mass surveillance of the Palestinians. All mobile phone calls could be stored and listened too.

There is no way that Israel did not know about the attack on Oct 7th.

The fact that it apparently took them 6 hours to respond tells a story…


They did know, Egyptian security services told them a few days before.
The trouble is they didn`t believe it was going to happen and at what scale.

In 1982 six weeks before the Falklands War Thatcher was told that Argentina were planning to attack. It even appeared in an article in The Guardian.
She also didn`t believe it.



It’s not a question….in my mind….that Israel did not believe the attack would happen…..more so that the KNEW the attack would happen and let it happen…

I wonder how long it will be before they either break the cease fire or move their attention elsewhere…..Iran ?


If they`re going after Iran 🇮🇷 they`ll regret it big time.

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34. Author:  Dandy Warhol        
Date: Tue 14th Oct 2025. 11:29

And Israel already at it, who`d have thought.

I don`t wanna go down like disco.

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35. Author:  Dave_1885        
Date: Tue 14th Oct 2025. 22:52

IDF have stated that the Rafah crossing will not be opened on Wednesday to allow aid in to Gaza because Haams have not returned all of the deceased hostage bodies, despite Hamas saying they need to dig through the rubble to find them.

Certainly sounds like they are itching to keel it going……

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36. Author:  Back_oh_the_net        
Date: Wed 15th Oct 2025. 01:32

So there’s a fair chance that idf have killed those hostages with their own bombs then you have to ask why they would risk bombing potential hamas buildings if there was a risk of hostages being inside those buildings but as dandy pointed out it was never really about hostages was it in wee benji’s eyes 40 odd hostages being killed is a small price to pay if it means destroying hamas I’ll give it until the point where this Gaza city clan that engaged with hamas just now are defeated and they will open up on Gaza once more lure them back into what’s left of the city’s under a false banner of peace then start bombing them again is how this will turn out

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37. Author:  Bletchley_Par        
Date: Wed 15th Oct 2025. 03:30



Quote:

desparado, Fri 26 Sept 08:59


There is no way that Israel did not know about the attack on Oct 7th.

The fact that it apparently took them 6 hours to respond tells a story…



"fact" and "apparently" do not good bedfellows make.

The IDF responded almost immediately after it started at 6.30am.

And the story is that Hamas launched their attack on Simchat Torah, when they knew security would be at minimum levels and Jewish people would be avoiding using electronic equipment.

Hamas knew they could slaughter 1,195 young festival goers and security guards and that the majority of Jewish people would be off-grid at this time and would only switch on electronic devices at sunset.

Hamas also launched 4,300 missiles into Israel at the same time as the murder of the festival goers.




Post Edited (Wed 15 Oct 04:55)

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