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| 1. Author: Bletchley_Par Date: Mon 16th Feb 2026. 22:24 The great leader in an attempt to bring in Blair`s digital id by the back door has declared he wishes to age restrict VPNs. This requires everyone to submit Digital ID to use a VPN to prove they are over 16. He claims this is to "protect children"....the Labour Party protecting kids is almost hilarious at this point. He also wants to ban infinite scrolling, which is a bit of a misnomer but certainly dafc.net seems to fit the bill. A man in 1915 could go his whole life without any contact with the state with the exception of the Post Office, it seems every government since then has aimed to end this utopia.  Reply |
| 2. Author: veteraneastender Date: Tue 3rd Mar 2026. 10:53 "A man in 1915 could go his whole life without any contact with the state with the exception of the Post Office, it seems every government since then has aimed to end this utopia." Not sure that statement stands scrutiny ? The state obliged citizens to register in national census returns from 1841 onwards - and children were legally obliged to attend school starting from 1870. Scotland obliged parents to register a child`s birth from 1855, England & Wales from 1875. Reply |
| 3. Author: The One Who Knocks Date: Tue 3rd Mar 2026. 12:09 I just love factual takedowns. And although my eyes were open They just might as well be closed Reply |
| 4. Author: DBP Date: Tue 3rd Mar 2026. 14:27 There is no way I’m giving my most personal data, an image of my likeness or official id documents to third parties to prove my age… I’ve already unsubscribed from several subscriptions when asked for this, including discord (who’s users have just experienced a large data breach) I will never get a digital id - we’re not a permission based society and I’m not having all my disparate data collated to be trawled over by more and more powerful AI - and the now facial recognition cameras that are put up, the more I’ll put on my covid face mask when walking about. To quote our Home Secretary, I refuse to have the eyes of the state on me at all times, and I dread to think of the implications on is all of that happens. I refuse to put thinks like banking on my phone, apart from my ‘jam jar’ mobile bank which never has anything more than what I need that weekend - if I lost my phone or it’s stolen, no one will be able to even know where my savings, main account are! I also never use internet services especially on mobile without vpn, so if that’s banned then I’ll be going back to dumb phone Post Edited (Tue 03 Mar 14:28) Reply |
| 5. Author: jake89 Date: Tue 3rd Mar 2026. 19:17 DBP, Tue 3 Mar 14:27 I also don`t want Starmer knowing my porno preferences. Reply |
| 6. Author: Bletchley_Par Date: Wed 4th Mar 2026. 22:04 Topic Originator: veteraneastender The census registration only became compulsory in.....yep 1915, due to the war and the National register in August of that year. State education is not compulsory today, never mind in 1915. Reply |
| 7. Author: Bletchley_Par Date: Wed 4th Mar 2026. 22:38 And yes parents had to register their children. The child has no contact with the GRO. Reply |
| 8. Author: veteraneastender Date: Thu 5th Mar 2026. 17:54 "State education is not compulsory today, never mind in 1915." I sat on a School Board for a few years which (amongst other things) interviewed truanting pupils and their parents. At least one father ended up in Sheriff Court and was fined - he apparently didn`t take heed and made a second appearance where the Sheriff "advised" him that a further visit would most likely result in a short custodial sentence. Post Edited (Thu 05 Mar 17:55) Reply |
| 9. Author: Bletchley_Par Date: Thu 5th Mar 2026. 23:04 The man in 1915 went to Slough Grammar. Reply |
| 10. Author: veteraneastender Date: Fri 6th Mar 2026. 08:59 Which would be a state school ? Reply |
| 11. Author: Bletchley_Par Date: Fri 6th Mar 2026. 09:42 No, it`s an old nickname of Eton College. So are you done VEE? He went to a private or independent school, he never had children or if he did the mother registered the birth, worked in a private business and he died in 1915 before the August national register. If you wish to be really pedantic he never voted and he never, ever said even a "good morning" to the local village Bobby. The axiom holds up to your scrutiny. Post Edited (Fri 06 Mar 10:05) Reply |
| 12. Author: veteraneastender Date: Fri 6th Mar 2026. 17:44 An awful lot of ifs and maybes in this scenario. Perhaps he died 1915 in military service - which would be the ultimate contact with the state and entirely consistent with being an Old Etonian ? If in business he would have been paying Income Tax. It`s more than reasonable that he would wish to vote - and that required owning a certain amount of property and being on the valuation roll. Reply |
| 13. Author: Bletchley_Par Date: Fri 6th Mar 2026. 18:00 I only need one man for the axiom to hold. The axiom is "a man could" not "any man can". Look where you are now, fumbling about discussing his property price and claiming to know his politics. A couple of posts ago you were telling us a baby of less than 42 days could have contact with the GRO, he must have been on the census and claiming state mandated education was actually mandated state education. You are where many have been with the 1915 axiom, you know it holds but are now arguing over process. Post Edited (Fri 06 Mar 18:03) Reply |
| 14. Author: The One Who Knocks Date: Fri 6th Mar 2026. 18:30 So you`re saying 111 years ago, under a very particular and incredibly unlikely set of circumstances, a man could live his whole life without coming into contact with the state? And although my eyes were open They just might as well be closed Reply |
| 15. Author: veteraneastender Date: Fri 6th Mar 2026. 18:34 This mythical one of a kind man seems to have been able to bodyswerve every facet of contact with the state from birth to death. It doesn`t need much imagination to assume how an Old Etonian would vote...... and you can`t find much more of an establishment figure given that background. Reply |
| 16. Author: Bletchley_Par Date: Fri 6th Mar 2026. 18:56 So now you are just arguing over my random pick of Eton and running with that being the only non-state school in 1915? He didn`t vote, I told you that. You seem to be trying to put yourself in his shoes VEE, with all your preferences and assumptions. Just like school thing you have changed my words. I never said he was in business I said he worked in a private business as in not any kind of civil servant. Let`s see what would be a suitable occupation for an old Etonian in 1915? A trapeze artist or something like that. Go on then VEE, go search for government circus regulations 1915, I genuinely no idea myself. Oh an his younger brother, who attended Mr. Valentine`s school in Blackheath, worked as a butcher`s assistant in Whitechapel, stayed in common lodgings, unmarried with no issue and not into politics died a couple of days before him. Reply |
| 17. Author: The One Who Knocks Date: Fri 6th Mar 2026. 19:08 If the internet and VPNs had been about in 1915 then this man and his brother could also have continued to avoid any contact with the state by simply not using either. And although my eyes were open They just might as well be closed Reply |
| 18. Author: Bletchley_Par Date: Fri 6th Mar 2026. 19:23 Well he could use the post office, I guess a telegram is the internet of it`s day?  Post Edited (Sat 07 Mar 01:34) Reply |
| 19. Author: veteraneastender Date: Sat 7th Mar 2026. 09:07 "Just like school thing you have changed my words. I never said he was in business I said he worked in a private business as in not any kind of civil servant." Regardless of his educational background - I never alluded to his being a civil servant - if he worked in a private business he would have had to pay Income Tax surely ? Birth not registered - not recorded on a census etc., etc. I`m intrigued by this "Man Who Never Was" scenario, possible in theory perhaps - maybe (?) - but back in the real world.................. Reply |
| 20. Author: Bletchley_Par Date: Sat 7th Mar 2026. 11:01 Very few people paid tax in 1915. His birth was registered, we`ve already gone over all this. And him being on the census is fine as long as he didn`t declare it....just like his birth, someone putting his name on a form is not contact. Reply |
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