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Topic: Times up
41. Author: NMCmassive Date: Sun 29th Sep 2024. 10:26 Berkey, Sat 28 Sep 17:29 Don’t say that Naz, he’s one of our own despite being repeatedly proven to be unable to perform at this level and thats enough for some. Keep playing dross every week don’t be surprised when that’s what you get every week. McCann wasn’t the problem yesterday. COYP Reply
42. Author: NMCmassive Date: Sun 29th Sep 2024. 10:39 DJAS, Sat 28 Sep 19:14 Not a McCann fan but picking him out today is poor. Much better than Kane today, in fact much better than most of them out there today. ☝🏻 this. I honestly don’t know what some folk are watching. Someone round me yesterday started shouting at Hamilton because of Witherspoon’s pass 🤷🏻‍♂️ like seriously, have a look at what’s happening in front of you. Giving away that foul was about the only positive thing Hamilton done yesterday. McCann to his credit has been one of the better performers this season. The team as a whole though, I don’t know. Feeling a bit perplexed today. I still don’t think sacking the manager with 0 plans is the answer but if we had someone who can offer something, get the guys moving… It would be hard to say no to. That was seriously crap yesterday. COYP Reply
43. Author: da_no_1 Date: Sun 29th Sep 2024. 10:42 I`m resigned to watching dross like yesterday until we somehow find new owners. There`s no chance of McPake being sacked by the current owners. And another thing.......booing one of your own players' name being read out at 2.55......just fuck off and don't come back. "Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark" Post Edited (Sun 29 Sep 10:43) Reply
44. Author: NMCmassive Date: Sun 29th Sep 2024. 10:43 weemike, Sun 29 Sep 09:55 An ex pro turned football manager should have enough put by for 12 months outta work. If he wants to get his next job at any meaningful level, QOS, arbroath, etc, then resigning now means he has a higher chance. The longer this goes on, the lower his stock becomes. At some point, he has to think of his career. Speculation on someone’s personal finances because they’ve been in the public eye. I’ve no doubt McPake has been a good earner but I also doubt he drives about in a Dacia. More money = more bills COYP Reply
45. Author: NMCmassive Date: Sun 29th Sep 2024. 10:45 da_no_1, Sun 29 Sep 10:42 I`m resigned to watching dross like yesterday until we somehow find new owners. There`s no chance of McPake being sacked by the current owners. And another thing.......booing one of your own players` name being read out at 2.55......just **** off and don`t come back. I noticed that as well. I didn’t like it either. COYP Reply
46. Author: weemike Date: Sun 29th Sep 2024. 10:50 NMCmassive, Sun 29 Sept 10:43 weemike, Sun 29 Sep 09:55 An ex pro turned football manager should have enough put by for 12 months outta work. If he wants to get his next job at any meaningful level, QOS, arbroath, etc, then resigning now means he has a higher chance. The longer this goes on, the lower his stock becomes. At some point, he has to think of his career. Speculation on someone’s personal finances because they’ve been in the public eye. I’ve no doubt McPake has been a good earner but I also doubt he drives about in a Dacia. More money = more bills I`ve no doubt his bills are higher, but the nature of his profession should dictate that he has the ability to withstand longer periods without a job than the normal person. This is in response to GG`s comment which makes it sound like he is just like the rest of us. His professional situation is not like ours and his finances will accommodate the difference. Reply
47. Author: sonofpetrie Date: Sun 29th Sep 2024. 10:55 GG Riva, Sun 29 Sep 09:48 ParfectXI, Sun 29 Sept 09:32 The board aren’t going to spend money to sack the manager! The only thing we can do is start telling him to resign in louder volumes during matches, to make it untenable for him to stay and hopefully he’ll get the message and walk. Do you really think any manager, with a mortgage and other bills to pay and a young family to support, is going to resign because a group of fans shout at him to do so? It may be the honourable thing to do in your eyes, but it`s not how it works in the real world. There was no lack of teachers that I worked alongside that weren`t that great ( and I include myself when I started out) but not one of them ever tendered their resignation. Another consideration is that if the manager resigns, he puts the rest of his management team in a difficult situation. He`s not been very sensible with his money if he can`t go. He has earned a great deal of money throughout his career, in particular as a player. Maybe should cut back on the £900 jackets he wears in the dugout and fancy cars? Comparing it to your career isn`t particularly accurate GG. I work alongside teachers in the public sector and you probably know more than most how protected and safe that sector is. Probably easier to compare it to an unskilled private sector job where you are constantly at risk. If you are gash at your job you are out. Redundancies coming up? You are out. Constantly making the same mistakes at work? You are out. It would make no difference sitting down at a performance review or round of redundancy meeting to say "but I`ve got a family". I`ve seen it first hand in real life. I`ve experienced it first hand. When he finished as a player absolutely no-one put a gun to his head and said the only thing you can now do is be a manager. So for that reason I have no sympathy for him. He`s just not very good at his job. I suppose the same thing rings true for me when people say the "but he`s got a family" about players too. This career is a privilege not an entitlement. "The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary" Reply
48. Author: Indiapar Date: Sun 29th Sep 2024. 11:14 I don`t think blaming individual players helps to be honest. It`s a team sport so there should be collective responsibility. I get individual mistakes cause goals but it was an overall poor performance tgat led to a defeat which is the more important consideration. Reply
49. Author: wee eck Date: Sun 29th Sep 2024. 11:19 I don`t think anyone builds up a nest-egg to make it easy for them to resign from a job without immediate prospects of re-employment. Life has plenty of other unforeseeable pitfalls you have to insure against without creating one yourself. There might be exceptional circumstances which might trigger a resignation (eg a health issue) but otherwise I can`t see it happening. Reply
50. Author: weemike Date: Sun 29th Sep 2024. 11:30 wee eck, Sun 29 Sept 11:19 I don`t think anyone builds up a nest-egg to make it easy for them to resign from a job without immediate prospects of re-employment. Life has plenty of other unforeseeable pitfalls you have to insure against without creating one yourself. There might be exceptional circumstances which might trigger a resignation (eg a health issue) but otherwise I can`t see it happening. It`s for a period without a job, which his profession will have more than the laymans. I believe that given our situation, it will be more likely that he resigns than sacked. The sooner he resigns, the better for his career unless he turns it around. But as it looks, we are going down. Unless we can play against 10 men at home every week. He is uninspiring, and the squad has regressed under his leadership. The longer he says, the more the outside world can see it. If he leaves today.....he has the uncertainty of the board as benefit of the doubt. Reply
51. Author: The Boss Date: Sun 29th Sep 2024. 11:37 MinnesotaAndy, Sun 29 Sep 10:21 Yesterday was about as bad a performance as you can get. It was almost as if the players had not woken up on the need to compete until the closing minutes. All very strange. I`d give current management another seven games to see if they can get things turned around. Seven games? Deary me! I wouldn’t even give him until Monday. They’ve had plenty of time and money to turn things around. Nothing has improved. It’s still the same dull football with hardly no attacking. Booing your own players is shocking to be honest. Never understood it. I remember fans booing Stephen Simmons on the park as a sub. I remember fans didn’t seem to bother about booing him at the time though 🤔. How things change. I like black and white (dreaming of black and white) You like black and white Run run away Reply
52. Author: wee eck Date: Sun 29th Sep 2024. 11:41 I think football people have a different mindset from fans. They need to have self-belief or they would get nowhere in their chosen career. `If he leaves today.....he has the uncertainty of the board as benefit of the doubt.` I haven`t a clue what that means. Btw, I`ve seen plenty teams struggle against 10 men, including the Pars. Reply
53. Author: weemike Date: Sun 29th Sep 2024. 11:49 wee eck, Sun 29 Sept 11:41 I think football people have a different mindset from fans. They need to have self-belief or they would get nowhere in their chosen career. `If he leaves today.....he has the uncertainty of the board as benefit of the doubt.` I haven`t a clue what that means. Btw, I`ve seen plenty teams struggle against 10 men, including the Pars. At his next job interview, he can state that the board situation had impacted his ability to do his job. The longer he sticks around, the more the focus of blame will shift to him. Our only positive game this season came on the back of playing against 10 men for the majority of the game. Reply
54. Author: jake89 Date: Sun 29th Sep 2024. 11:56 Managers and coaches are like contractors so know they can be paid off at a moments notice. If they aren`t smart enough to have a reserve to cover gaps then they`re clearly not that clever! That all said, why would you choose to walk away when you`ve got a pay off waiting if you get sacked? Walking away wouldn`t be clever either. Reply
55. Author: NMCmassive Date: Sun 29th Sep 2024. 12:30 weemike, Sun 29 Sep 10:50 NMCmassive, Sun 29 Sept 10:43 weemike, Sun 29 Sep 09:55 An ex pro turned football manager should have enough put by for 12 months outta work. If he wants to get his next job at any meaningful level, QOS, arbroath, etc, then resigning now means he has a higher chance. The longer this goes on, the lower his stock becomes. At some point, he has to think of his career. Speculation on someone’s personal finances because they’ve been in the public eye. I’ve no doubt McPake has been a good earner but I also doubt he drives about in a Dacia. More money = more bills I`ve no doubt his bills are higher, but the nature of his profession should dictate that he has the ability to withstand longer periods without a job than the normal person. This is in response to GG`s comment which makes it sound like he is just like the rest of us. His professional situation is not like ours and his finances will accommodate the difference. https://www.moneynest.co.uk/bankrupt-footballers/ More money = more bills. COYP Reply
56. Author: weemike Date: Sun 29th Sep 2024. 12:45 More money = more bills More money = more bills. More money = more savings. Especially a football manager whose profession has long periods of unemployment. Reply
57. Author: NMCmassive Date: Sun 29th Sep 2024. 13:03 weemike, Sun 29 Sep 12:45 More money = more bills More money = more bills. More money = more savings. Especially a football manager whose profession has long periods of unemployment. 😂😂😂 You seem green with envy at McPakes money 🤷🏻‍♂️ I take it you never read the article? What use is speculation about his personal finances anyway? Apart from the fact it’s got absolutely nothing to do with anyone apart from McPake, imagine making stuff up about how much money someone may or may not have on a football forum… COYP Reply
58. Author: TAFKA_Super_Petrie Date: Sun 29th Sep 2024. 13:13 Exactly. If you are sacked then you get the remainder of your contract paid up so would have the luxury of that buffer at least for the money dropping in for x amount of months, obviously wouldn`t last forever or you would surrender that if you then took on another job. Remember hearing that one of the reasons Jim McIntyre doesn`t hold us in particularly high regard is that he lost out on a fair bit of money due in severance pay by virtue of us going into administration. Anyways it`s a bit daft to be talking about personal stuff like this on a forum. --------------------------------------------------------------- [b]"People always talk about Ronaldinho and magic, but I didn't see him today. I saw Henrik Larsson; that's where the magic was."[/b] Reply
59. Author: weemike Date: Sun 29th Sep 2024. 13:20 NMCmassive, Sun 29 Sept 13:03 weemike, Sun 29 Sep 12:45 More money = more bills More money = more bills. More money = more savings. Especially a football manager whose profession has long periods of unemployment. 😂😂😂 You seem green with envy at McPakes money 🤷🏻‍♂️ I take it you never read the article? What use is speculation about his personal finances anyway? Apart from the fact it’s got absolutely nothing to do with anyone apart from McPake, imagine making stuff up about how much money someone may or may not have on a football forum… The speculation is about if he can afford to resign or not. Yes, I`m green with envy. You seem hell-bent on arguing? Do you think he should resign or be sacked? I did read the article, but it doesn`t really apply as post retirement. Mcpake has found a line of work. Reply
60. Author: SeasonedPar Date: Sun 29th Sep 2024. 14:13 There might come a tipping point when declining attendances, hospitality, merchandise etc outweigh the cost of giving that P45 to a manager who’s lost his way. Nobody likes to see people losing jobs, but that tipping point must become a real possibility if he can’t turn things around soon. Keeping fingers crossed we scrape enough points together to avoid relegation isn’t going to encourage me or many others back. It’s not entertainment. Very disillusioned with the Pars atm. Reply

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