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Topic: Sale of the club
41. Author:  JamesAndrew74        
Date: Mon 30th Sep 2024. 14:35

Stanza, Mon 30 Sep 14:07

cammypar 1995, Mon 30 Sept 13:15

Credit where credit is due the commercial manager was in legends selling 50/50 tickets. I`m sure we can get someone to do it for less than £100k per annum though?


Presumably over and above his normal duties and workload, so effectively an unpaid volunteer. Perhaps the club would welcome another volunteer if you are interested?


That’s absolutely part of his workload. Perhaps he should try selling hospitality again and he might not have time for 50/50. Really poor just how with hardly anybody attending, new structure and pricing from club and almighty c**k up

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42. Author:  cammypar 1995        
Date: Mon 30th Sep 2024. 15:04

da_no_1, Mon 30 Sept 13:39

wee eck, Mon 30 Sept 13:17

Have you seen his payslip?


Of course he hasn`t! But he kens a boy in Raffles who has


Wouldn`t see me in there. At least you`re consistent with offering absolutely nothing worthwhile to any conversation I`ve got to give you that.

c'mon the pars

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43. Author:  Rusty Shackleford        
Date: Mon 30th Sep 2024. 15:16

You think a commercial manager for a second tier Scottish football club is on six figures basic?

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44. Author:  SeasonedPar        
Date: Mon 30th Sep 2024. 15:18

veteraneastender, Mon 30 Sep 12:13

SeasonedPar,

No guarantee that we would qualify for the top tier though.


That has to be the ambition. For football and money reasons.

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45. Author:  SeasonedPar        
Date: Mon 30th Sep 2024. 15:20

Stanza, Mon 30 Sep 12:05

In years past, Ross McArthur would provide the Supporters` Council meetings with details of significant costs and issues that the club was facing.

No doubt he held back some information that was commercially sensitive, but it certainly seemed to be a genuine attempt to educate the fanbase in how difficult it is to run a medium-sized football club in the Championship without significant outside investment, particularly when maintaining in good order a stadium larger than is needed.

Two of the clubs held up as examples in this thread (Raith and Partick) have benefited from large inward investment but still have fairly ramshackle stadia. Ayr United`s new owner has invested £3m in the club, partly to finance badly-needed stadium improvements. St Mirren and Queens Park sold Love St and Hampden for several millions. Hamilton sold Douglas Park to Sainsburys, were homeless for years and still only have half a stadium. Livi have their parachute payment. Airdrieonians own the Excelsior, and get income from renting it out to Celtic B, Celtic Women and Glasgow Uni. Falkirk don`t even own their stadium. I won`t even mention Cappielow!

On the costs side of running DAFC, these are clearly much greater when done by professionals rather than by volunteers. The football backroom staff looks to be larger than before, the medical bills last year would have been enormous. There are probably budget implications of the academy and the new training ground. Compensation to sacked managers, problems with floodlights and USH, I`m sure the list is almost endless.

So perhaps some of what Ross used to do by way of communication would be useful again in explaining where the money goes in running DAFC, and why decisions are made which sometimes might be baffling for fans who don`t see the full picture.


Excellent analysis and suggestion, Stanza

Post Edited (Mon 30 Sep 15:21)

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46. Author:  Raymie the Legend        
Date: Mon 30th Sep 2024. 15:58

I did hear that hospitality wasn`t a sell out and we had no match ball sponsor. Not sure how much truth there is in that?




It`s bloody tough being a legend
Ron Atkinson - 1983


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47. Author:  da_no_1        
Date: Mon 30th Sep 2024. 16:10

cammypar 1995, Mon 30 Sept 15:04

da_no_1, Mon 30 Sept 13:39

wee eck, Mon 30 Sept 13:17

Have you seen his payslip?


Of course he hasn`t! But he kens a boy in Raffles who has


Wouldn`t see me in there. At least you`re consistent with offering absolutely nothing worthwhile to any conversation I`ve got to give you that.


No point whatsoever conversing with folk like you.

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"

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48. Author:  Stanza        
Date: Mon 30th Sep 2024. 16:21

JamesAndrew74, Mon 30 Sept 14:35

That’s absolutely part of his workload.


I`m struggling to believe that standing selling 50/50 tickets is part of the Commercial Manager`s contractual duties.

If you (and the person suggesting he earns £100k pa) have access to his personal contract details, then perhaps you are correct. But if you don`t have that access, then I remain sceptical.

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49. Author:  DunPar        
Date: Mon 30th Sep 2024. 16:50

How much did Craig Whyte pay for Rangers ? £1 ?
Maybe we could all get the collection buckets out and see if we can collect the same !

Over 40 years ago I won the Daily Express letter of the week for suggesting a 16 team league. I’m not really sure it would improve Scottish league attendances. Probably not ours. What about a 14 team league and a mid season split to 7. 26+12 games.

Home supports for games against the OF are abysmal nowadays. I still remember the “Eric Ferguson” game when we had nearly 20,000 in EEP. Sad to hear ideas of our 11,000 capacity ground being too big. Back in the day, there were plans to build a new 20,000 stadium at Pitreavie ! Some of us thought that lacked ambition!! But how many times this century have we had more than 10,000 (never mind capacity) at EEP ?



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50. Author:  buffy        
Date: Mon 30th Sep 2024. 17:19

There were a couple of volunteers unwell at the weekend which is why AB was selling half time tickets.

”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”

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51. Author:  cammypar 1995        
Date: Mon 30th Sep 2024. 17:26

da_no_1, Mon 30 Sept 16:10

cammypar 1995, Mon 30 Sept 15:04

da_no_1, Mon 30 Sept 13:39

wee eck, Mon 30 Sept 13:17

Have you seen his payslip?


Of course he hasn`t! But he kens a boy in Raffles who has


Wouldn`t see me in there. At least you`re consistent with offering absolutely nothing worthwhile to any conversation I`ve got to give you that.


No point whatsoever conversing with folk like you.


Although you always reply to my posts? A very interesting take for someone who can`t hold a reasonable conversation about any subject on here apart from silly school girl patter but if that`s your level who are we to judge.

c'mon the pars

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52. Author:  DBP        
Date: Mon 30th Sep 2024. 17:36

To answer an earlier post, EEP is the the middle of a residential area (unlike Falkirk) so you couldn’t use it for regular events due to noise

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53. Author:  da_no_1        
Date: Mon 30th Sep 2024. 18:15

cammypar 1995, Mon 30 Sept 17:26

da_no_1, Mon 30 Sept 16:10

cammypar 1995, Mon 30 Sept 15:04

da_no_1, Mon 30 Sept 13:39

wee eck, Mon 30 Sept 13:17

Have you seen his payslip?


Of course he hasn`t! But he kens a boy in Raffles who has


Wouldn`t see me in there. At least you`re consistent with offering absolutely nothing worthwhile to any conversation I`ve got to give you that.


No point whatsoever conversing with folk like you.


Although you always reply to my posts? A very interesting take for someone who can`t hold a reasonable conversation about any subject on here apart from silly school girl patter but if that`s your level who are we to judge.


The thing is, and you`ll see this if you actually read most of my posts, I can. It`s easier to converse with folk who post sensible rational comments. Really easy actually.

I just can`t believe you know our marketing managers salary. If you have conclusive evidence then post it. If you don`t, then apologise for wasting everyone`s time.

Then I`ll converse with you. Until then I`ll keep calling posts like yours out for what they are, when appropriate.

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"

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54. Author:  cammypar 1995        
Date: Mon 30th Sep 2024. 18:27

da_no_1, Mon 30 Sept 18:15

cammypar 1995, Mon 30 Sept 17:26

da_no_1, Mon 30 Sept 16:10

cammypar 1995, Mon 30 Sept 15:04

da_no_1, Mon 30 Sept 13:39

wee eck, Mon 30 Sept 13:17

Have you seen his payslip?


Of course he hasn`t! But he kens a boy in Raffles who has


Wouldn`t see me in there. At least you`re consistent with offering absolutely nothing worthwhile to any conversation I`ve got to give you that.


No point whatsoever conversing with folk like you.


Although you always reply to my posts? A very interesting take for someone who can`t hold a reasonable conversation about any subject on here apart from silly school girl patter but if that`s your level who are we to judge.


The thing is, and you`ll see this if you actually read most of my posts, I can. It`s easier to converse with folk who post sensible rational comments. Really easy actually.

I just can`t believe you know our marketing managers salary. If you have conclusive evidence then post it. If you don`t, then apologise for wasting everyone`s time.

Then I`ll converse with you. Until then I`ll keep calling posts like yours out for what they are, when appropriate.


Believe what you will but back to the original point it was good to see the commercial manager stepping up to sell tickets with volunteers not well. Although quite disappointing to hear the hospitality wasn`t full and no ball sponsor.

c'mon the pars

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55. Author:  da_no_1        
Date: Mon 30th Sep 2024. 18:45

So in short, no.

Thanks for that.

"Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark"

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56. Author:  NMCmassive        
Date: Mon 30th Sep 2024. 19:32

Mind when Hearts tried to turn Tyncastle into a multi-events arena? Wrecked the pitch and added to the the clubs financial issues…

I think the club is already renting out the office space that they have available 🤷🏻‍♂️

COYP

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57. Author:  veteraneastender        
Date: Mon 30th Sep 2024. 20:02

Quote:

veteraneastender, Mon 30 Sep 12:13

SeasonedPar,

No guarantee that we would qualify for the top tier though.


"That has to be the ambition. For football and money reasons."

Sadly, ambition and reality often diverge.

We haven`t recovered from the demise of 2014 - exacerbated by the Peter Grant experience.



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58. Author:  Dave_1885        
Date: Mon 30th Sep 2024. 22:53

veteraneastender, Mon 30 Sep 20:02

Quote:

veteraneastender, Mon 30 Sep 12:13

SeasonedPar,

No guarantee that we would qualify for the top tier though.


"That has to be the ambition. For football and money reasons."

Sadly, ambition and reality often diverge.

We haven`t recovered from the demise of 2014 - exacerbated by the Peter Grant experience.


To be fair, the “James McPake experience” isn’t much better……

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59. Author:  GG Riva        
Date: Tue 1st Oct 2024. 06:59

Dave_1885, Mon 30 Sept 22:53

veteraneastender, Mon 30 Sep 20:02

Quote:

veteraneastender, Mon 30 Sep 12:13

SeasonedPar,

No guarantee that we would qualify for the top tier though.


"That has to be the ambition. For football and money reasons."

Sadly, ambition and reality often diverge.

We haven`t recovered from the demise of 2014 - exacerbated by the Peter Grant experience.


To be fair, the “James McPake experience” isn’t much better……


You`ve omitted the Yogi Hughes experience. (A masterclass in alienating a large chunk of your playing squad.)



Not your average Sunday League player.


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60. Author:  cammypar 1995        
Date: Tue 1st Oct 2024. 07:34

Dave_1885, Mon 30 Sept 22:53

veteraneastender, Mon 30 Sep 20:02

Quote:

veteraneastender, Mon 30 Sep 12:13

SeasonedPar,

No guarantee that we would qualify for the top tier though.


"That has to be the ambition. For football and money reasons."

Sadly, ambition and reality often diverge.

We haven`t recovered from the demise of 2014 - exacerbated by the Peter Grant experience.


To be fair, the “James McPake experience” isn’t much better……


Were worse off now that we were under the Peter grant days. Under grant we scored goals and got out of the Betfred cup group both of which mcpake has struggled with.

c'mon the pars

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