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Topic: Sale of the club
61. Author: SeasonedPar Date: Tue 1st Oct 2024. 08:32 veteraneastender, Mon 30 Sep 20:02 Quote: veteraneastender, Mon 30 Sep 12:13 SeasonedPar, No guarantee that we would qualify for the top tier though. "That has to be the ambition. For football and money reasons." Sadly, ambition and reality often diverge. We haven`t recovered from the demise of 2014 - exacerbated by the Peter Grant experience. I’d agree. That’s why I said this HAS to be the ambition. Realistically, a longer term aim atm. Reply
62. Author: parathletic Date: Tue 1st Oct 2024. 11:09 Peter Grant didn`t do a good job and shouldn`t have got it in the first place but he was only here for 12 league games.We had worse sequences of results under Crawford.Most of the players Grant signed were then offered new deals by subsequent managers. If we are still suffering from a 3 month spell years on, it says more about the infrastructure of the club than Grant imo. Reply
63. Author: Dave_1885 Date: Tue 1st Oct 2024. 12:51 GG Riva, Tue 1 Oct 06:59 Dave_1885, Mon 30 Sept 22:53 veteraneastender, Mon 30 Sep 20:02 Quote: veteraneastender, Mon 30 Sep 12:13 SeasonedPar, No guarantee that we would qualify for the top tier though. "That has to be the ambition. For football and money reasons." Sadly, ambition and reality often diverge. We haven`t recovered from the demise of 2014 - exacerbated by the Peter Grant experience. To be fair, the “James McPake experience” isn’t much better…… You`ve omitted the Yogi Hughes experience. (A masterclass in alienating a large chunk of your playing squad.) Is Yogis points per game ratio in this league now better than McPakes btw? 🤔 his win ratio may even be better now too……. Reply
64. Author: LochgellyAlbert Date: Tue 1st Oct 2024. 13:18 parathletic, Tue 1 Oct 11:09 Peter Grant didn`t do a good job and shouldn`t have got it in the first place but he was only here for 12 league games.We had worse sequences of results under Crawford.Most of the players Grant signed were then offered new deals by subsequent managers. If we are still suffering from a 3 month spell years on, it says more about the infrastructure of the club than Grant imo. Crawford only had success when Calum Davidson was with us for a short while, prior to that we were dull. Reply
65. Author: Jeffery Date: Tue 1st Oct 2024. 13:22 If you look at Peter Grants 12 league games in charge, we won..... 7 points. We`re not 12 games into this season yet, so looking at McPakes last 12 league games (7 at the start of this and 5 at the end of last season) we have.....8 points. Their records are comparable. McPake 1pt better off in the league but Grant had better results in the league cup group stage. Reply
66. Author: da_no_1 Date: Tue 1st Oct 2024. 13:28 Imagine getting all dewy eyed about John "Yogi" Hughes. Dearie me. The man is an absolute imposter of a fitba manager and an utter bawbag to boot. If he was as good as he claims to be he`d be involved in the game. "Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark" Post Edited (Tue 01 Oct 13:28) Reply
67. Author: parathletic Date: Tue 1st Oct 2024. 14:05 Jeffery, Tue 1 Oct 13:22 If you look at Peter Grants 12 league games in charge, we won..... 7 points. We`re not 12 games into this season yet, so looking at McPakes last 12 league games (7 at the start of this and 5 at the end of last season) we have.....8 points. Their records are comparable. McPake 1pt better off in the league but Grant had better results in the league cup group stage. McPake has been in the job for a couple of years and had time to build a squad too.Grant came from a part-time club during Covid and inherited what I thought was a poor squad(no keeper at all etc). We had virtually no pre-season and it must have been nigh on impossible to scout any potential players at that time. Whoever the manager has been, our pre-season preparation has been really poor for a while. Friendlies are about fitness, but they are also helpful in building up relationships on the park and identifying your strongest side.We are into October and the manager gives the impression he still doesn`t know his strongest team-some of that is on the owners but he still has to be doing better imo. Reply
68. Author: GG Riva Date: Tue 1st Oct 2024. 14:17 Dave_1885, Tue 1 Oct 12:51 GG Riva, Tue 1 Oct 06:59 Dave_1885, Mon 30 Sept 22:53 veteraneastender, Mon 30 Sep 20:02 Quote: veteraneastender, Mon 30 Sep 12:13 SeasonedPar, No guarantee that we would qualify for the top tier though. "That has to be the ambition. For football and money reasons." Sadly, ambition and reality often diverge. We haven`t recovered from the demise of 2014 - exacerbated by the Peter Grant experience. To be fair, the “James McPake experience” isn’t much better…… You`ve omitted the Yogi Hughes experience. (A masterclass in alienating a large chunk of your playing squad.) Is Yogis points per game ratio in this league now better than McPakes btw? 🤔 his win ratio may even be better now too……. We might even have avoided relegation if he`d kept the players onside, eh? 🤔 Not your average Sunday League player. Reply
69. Author: jake89 Date: Tue 1st Oct 2024. 14:27 It`s fair to say we`ve had our share of duds but then that`s the case at most clubs. The trick is to sometimes stand by a manager through a tough period rather than chuck and hope to hire someone better. In terms of sale of the club, I`d imagine the Germans would take a low-ball offer. If we get relegated, I would imagine we`d be joining ICT entering administration. Reply
70. Author: da_no_1 Date: Tue 1st Oct 2024. 15:05 jake89, Tue 1 Oct 14:27 It`s fair to say we`ve had our share of duds but then that`s the case at most clubs. The trick is to sometimes stand by a manager through a tough period rather than chuck and hope to hire someone better. In terms of sale of the club, I`d imagine the Germans would take a low-ball offer. If we get relegated, I would imagine we`d be joining ICT entering administration. Limited as my knowledge is, but would administration even be an option for us? I thought our debt was all owed to Gmbh? "Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark" Reply
71. Author: jake89 Date: Tue 1st Oct 2024. 15:46 da_no_1, Tue 1 Oct 15:05 jake89, Tue 1 Oct 14:27 It`s fair to say we`ve had our share of duds but then that`s the case at most clubs. The trick is to sometimes stand by a manager through a tough period rather than chuck and hope to hire someone better. In terms of sale of the club, I`d imagine the Germans would take a low-ball offer. If we get relegated, I would imagine we`d be joining ICT entering administration. Limited as my knowledge is, but would administration even be an option for us? I thought our debt was all owed to Gmbh? Isn`t there around £8m historic debt as well? I can`t imagine the club is currently solvent. Reply
72. Author: KirklistonPar Date: Tue 1st Oct 2024. 16:06 Have we to pay that 8 million back? Reply
73. Author: DA-go Par Adonis Date: Tue 1st Oct 2024. 17:04 The historic debt is irrelevant to the present situation - other than for the purposes of offsetting an annual profit to eliminate corporation tax. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I love it when we go sell Kevin Nisbet, He's gonna pay for everyone this season. Reply
74. Author: P Date: Tue 1st Oct 2024. 18:15 da_no_1, Tue 1 Oct 15:05 jake89, Tue 1 Oct 14:27 It`s fair to say we`ve had our share of duds but then that`s the case at most clubs. The trick is to sometimes stand by a manager through a tough period rather than chuck and hope to hire someone better. In terms of sale of the club, I`d imagine the Germans would take a low-ball offer. If we get relegated, I would imagine we`d be joining ICT entering administration. Limited as my knowledge is, but would administration even be an option for us? I thought our debt was all owed to Gmbh? Which would make it unsecured and unable to put us into administration…..they could however convert to shares (dunno if that option expired though) and presumably as owner sell off what there is for spare parts Reply
75. Author: Dave_1885 Date: Tue 1st Oct 2024. 19:09 da_no_1, Tue 1 Oct 13:28 Imagine getting all dewy eyed about John "Yogi" Hughes. Dearie me. The man is an absolute imposter of a fitba manager and an utter bawbag to boot. If he was as good as he claims to be he`d be involved in the game. I don’t think anyones getting “dewy eyed” about him 😂 people are just comparing factual stats between managers that is all. Reply
76. Author: Jeffery Date: Tue 1st Oct 2024. 20:32 Jeffery, Tue 1 Oct 13:22 If you look at Peter Grants 12 league games in charge, we won..... 7 points. We`re not 12 games into this season yet, so looking at McPakes last 12 league games (7 at the start of this and 5 at the end of last season) we have.....8 points. Their records are comparable. McPake 1pt better off in the league but Grant had better results in the league cup group stage. Just to add to my post above, Hughes managed 12 points in his last 12 games. I would never ever want him to be our manager again but that`s not too bad when you hold it up against McPake and Grants records over the same 12 game period. Reply
77. Author: cammypar 1995 Date: Tue 1st Oct 2024. 20:43 Jeffery, Tue 1 Oct 20:32 Jeffery, Tue 1 Oct 13:22 If you look at Peter Grants 12 league games in charge, we won..... 7 points. We`re not 12 games into this season yet, so looking at McPakes last 12 league games (7 at the start of this and 5 at the end of last season) we have.....8 points. Their records are comparable. McPake 1pt better off in the league but Grant had better results in the league cup group stage. Just to add to my post above, Hughes managed 12 points in his last 12 games. I would never ever want him to be our manager again but that`s not too bad when you hold it up against McPake and Grants records over the same 12 game period. Think it`s a valid point to compare how the current manager compares to others who have been released from their duties in the past for doing a similar job. c'mon the pars Reply
78. Author: GG Riva Date: Wed 2nd Oct 2024. 06:55 cammypar 1995, Tue 1 Oct 20:43 Jeffery, Tue 1 Oct 20:32 Jeffery, Tue 1 Oct 13:22 If you look at Peter Grants 12 league games in charge, we won..... 7 points. We`re not 12 games into this season yet, so looking at McPakes last 12 league games (7 at the start of this and 5 at the end of last season) we have.....8 points. Their records are comparable. McPake 1pt better off in the league but Grant had better results in the league cup group stage. Just to add to my post above, Hughes managed 12 points in his last 12 games. I would never ever want him to be our manager again but that`s not too bad when you hold it up against McPake and Grants records over the same 12 game period. Think it`s a valid point to compare how the current manager compares to others who have been released from their duties in the past for doing a similar job. Using 12 games is arguably too small a sample to have any validity, but restricted by Grant`s inclusion. If he`s left out, Hughes and McPake could be compared more meaningfully by calculating their points per game ratio in the Championship, if any statto can be bothered. 🙄 My earlier point about us probably avoiding relegation if Hughes hadn`t alienated a large chunk of his squad is difficult to argue with. Not saying it would have been easy, but if everyone was rowing in unison.......🤔 Not your average Sunday League player. Reply
79. Author: parathletic Date: Wed 2nd Oct 2024. 11:46 Championship record with us Hughes played 24 and gained 28 points@ 1.1666 points per game McPake played 43 and 49 points@ 1.139 points per game Reply
80. Author: GG Riva Date: Wed 2nd Oct 2024. 12:13 parathletic, Wed 2 Oct 11:46 Championship record with us Hughes played 24 and gained 28 points@ 1.1666 points per game McPake played 43 and 49 points@ 1.139 points per game Thanks, parathletic. Neither`s record is much to write home about and confirms my conviction that I never want to see JH back as manager. The mitigating factor in McPake`s case is that he`s lost several key players for long spells because of injuries, both last season and this. Hughes, on the other hand, is a complete bawbag, as da no 1 so elegantly put it. 😃 What is undoubtedly clear is that results and performances need to improve, starting on Saturday or the pressure on the manager will become intense. We badly need a couple of wins on the board. Not your average Sunday League player. Reply

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