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Topic: The big leccy bus grift
21. Author:  Dave_1885        
Date: Wed 20th Nov 2024. 20:27

Bletchley_Par, Wed 20 Nov 18:10


Day 2922 of conspiracy theories coming true....

"Baseless"..."Misinformationion"..."Disinformation"..."Denier"...etc, etc.

yeah.



https://tinyurl.com/3z8f8s5t


Weirdly enough gas guzzling vehicles can run out of battery too, just like one at my work did the other day (not on my watch mind) šŸ«¢ who knew?

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22. Author:  NMCmassive        
Date: Wed 20th Nov 2024. 22:19

Worth noting OP was correct about 440parts per million (ppm) of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.

Plant life starts to die off at 350ppm. Complete die off at 150ppm.

When the last ice age peaked 20,000 years ago carbon dioxide dropped to around 180ppm nearly sparking off another mass extinction.

Itā€™s hard to find an answer to how much is too much. Some articles will correlate between high carbon dioxide levels and previous mass extinction events - jurrasic-Triassic for example but I looked into the causes of a couple of them and the belief is that they were caused by super volcanoes. Carbon dioxide was at 6000-8000 ppm and there was no runaway greenhouse effect.

We just ended up with lots of trees.

More Iā€™ve tried looking into it, the less worried I am about carbon dioxide. I honestly believe itā€™s just a grift.

Plastics, petrochemicals, heavy metals IMO are much more of a concern.

I wonder if itā€™s a bait and switch tbh šŸ¤”

Wonder if Gretaā€™s family has shares in DuPont or something šŸ˜‚

COYP

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23. Author:  veteraneastender        
Date: Thu 21st Nov 2024. 09:15

The One Who Knocks, Mon 20 Mar 16:39

The government picks up the tab for those who don`t pay LA.


The taxpayer pays ultimately.

Iā€™m subsidising my own concessionary bus pass.

I donā€™t think the open ended free bus pass is sustainable in the long term, however that is a separate discussion.

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24. Author:  parsmad68        
Date: Thu 21st Nov 2024. 12:54

veteraneastender, Thu 21 Nov 09:15

The One Who Knocks, Mon 20 Mar 16:39

The government picks up the tab for those who don`t pay LA.


The taxpayer pays ultimately.

Iā€™m subsidising my own concessionary bus pass.

I donā€™t think the open ended free bus pass is sustainable in the long term, however that is a separate discussion.


Hi VEE, are you of an age where you get free rail travel or does that never happen?

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25. Author:  veteraneastender        
Date: Thu 21st Nov 2024. 15:30

"Hi VEE, are you of an age where you get free rail travel or does that never happen?"

There is no such thing AFAIK - maybe discounted fares for over 60s, I haven`t been on a train for several years.



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26. Author:  wee eck        
Date: Thu 21st Nov 2024. 16:26

You can buy a senior railcard for Ā£30 which entitles you to one-third of the cost of any rail fares for a year. one return journey to London and you`re in pocket.



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27. Author:  Alter Ego        
Date: Thu 21st Nov 2024. 19:11

Wow folk still go on grotty busses nowadaysā€¦if Iā€™m going to Edinburgh and back I just book an Uber.

Mon the Pars!

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28. Author:  Luxembourg Par        
Date: Thu 21st Nov 2024. 19:24

FREE busses, trams and trains in Lux - ALL free to use for everyone.
Trams all electric
Trains all electric
Busses - mix between fully electric, hydrogen fuel cell and hybrid



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29. Author:  jake89        
Date: Thu 21st Nov 2024. 23:03

Luxembourg Par, Thu 21 Nov 19:24

FREE busses, trams and trains in Lux - ALL free to use for everyone.
Trams all electric
Trains all electric
Busses - mix between fully electric, hydrogen fuel cell and hybrid


Believe it`s similar in Switzerland.

Sadly, as much as it would be great to have this in Scotland, it would likely just mobilise bellends.

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30. Author:  P        
Date: Fri 22nd Nov 2024. 19:37

ā€œNew electric buses charged by pantographs have been rolled out on one of Londonā€™s longest bus routes.

The fleet of 20 buses are being recharged at each end of the 15-mile route 358 between Crystal Palace and Orpington in the south-east of the capital.

The pantographs are arm-like structures which attach to a bus roof and provide high-powered charging in as little as six minutes.

That means the vehicles do not need to return to garages to recharge, reducing the fleet size required to serve the route.

The buses have a striking design with similar characteristics to a tram.

Transport for London (TfL) said they also have a ā€œsaferā€ front and features such as speed limits, audible warnings to alert pedestrians and other road users to the movements of the bus, and cameras and monitors instead of mirrors for the driver.

Spanish company Irizar has supplied 20 of the buses and the two pantograph chargers.

Pantograph technology was first introduced to Londonā€™s bus network in 2022 with testing at Bexleyheath garage.

More than 1,700 zero-emission buses are now in service in London.ā€

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31. Author:  LochgellyAlbert        
Date: Sat 23rd Nov 2024. 10:15

I remember the old London buses (1950`s?) that had the pantograph fitted, a strange sight for a Dunfermline boy!

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32. Author:  veteraneastender        
Date: Sat 23rd Nov 2024. 12:54

Luxembourg Par, Thu 21 Nov 19:24

FREE busses, trams and trains in Lux - ALL free to use for everyone.
Trams all electric
Trains all electric
Busses - mix between fully electric, hydrogen fuel cell and hybrid


Free ?

Which billionaire philanthropist do Luxors (?) have to thank ?

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33. Author:  Luxembourg Par        
Date: Mon 25th Nov 2024. 09:37

veteraneastender, Sat 23 Nov 12:54

Luxembourg Par, Thu 21 Nov 19:24

FREE busses, trams and trains in Lux - ALL free to use for everyone.
Trams all electric
Trains all electric
Busses - mix between fully electric, hydrogen fuel cell and hybrid


Free ?

Which billionaire philanthropist do Luxors (?) have to thank ?


Absolutely free.

Government run.
Big effort to reduce car congestion.
City Center parking reduced dramatically, prices increased for the parking that is available.
Parkā€™nā€™Ride facilities outside the city, West, South and East
New tram routes being added all the time.
Busses are regular and clean, there is even ā€˜a night busā€™ on Friday & Saturday nights to my village leaving at 00.30, 01.30 & 03.00 - no excuse to drink & drive, no need to drive at all.



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34. Author:  jake89        
Date: Mon 25th Nov 2024. 12:59

That`s how it should be. Unfortunately, we`re stuck with buses that take over an hour to travel to Edinburgh or trains that get cancelled, arrive with missing carriages or late.

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35. Author:  DBP        
Date: Mon 25th Nov 2024. 13:14

Yeah I only go in the office it takes almost 2hours and I live about 18 miles off I were to drive.
Itā€™s about 20 mins walk to bus, 5 mins wait, about 1hr 20mins on the bus, and another 10 min walk from Edinburgh bus station

I could take the train and shave about 30 mins, but its more than double the price which for the distance, crammed conditions etc Iā€™m not paying

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36. Author:  veteraneastender        
Date: Mon 25th Nov 2024. 18:41

"Absolutely free."

So, where does the Luxembourg government get the money to run these "free" services ?

That`s my point - nothing is free in this world.



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37. Author:  P        
Date: Mon 25th Nov 2024. 19:26

veteraneastender, Mon 25 Nov 18:41

"Absolutely free."

So, where does the Luxembourg government get the money to run these "free" services ?

That`s my point - nothing is free in this world.


I imagine the same place as you get your free prescriptions

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38. Author:  veteraneastender        
Date: Mon 25th Nov 2024. 21:25

"I imagine the same place as you get your free prescriptions"

Indeed - and the bus pass etc., etc.

The taxpayer..........there is no such thing as free.



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39. Author:  P        
Date: Mon 25th Nov 2024. 21:48

veteraneastender, Mon 25 Nov 21:25

"I imagine the same place as you get your free prescriptions"

Indeed - and the bus pass etc., etc.

The taxpayer..........there is no such thing as free.


So? Whatā€™s your actual point? It was pretty obvious he meant at point of use šŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļø

Post Edited (Mon 25 Nov 21:53)

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40. Author:  jake89        
Date: Tue 26th Nov 2024. 08:04

The Labour alternative to free public transport is to force you onto privately owned "public" transport by taxing the hell out of your car unless you buy electric.

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