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| 1. Author: The One Who Knocks Date: Sun 19th May 2024. 12:14 The Ukrainian deservedly established himself as the greatest heavyweight of his generation after outboxing Tyson Fury to become the undisputed champion. Incredibly it was a split decision when most objective observers would say that Usyk should have won on all scorecards by at least a couple of rounds. And although my eyes were open They just might as well be closed Reply |
| 2. Author: Berry Date: Sun 19th May 2024. 13:04 I had it close, the first few rounds could’ve really gone to any of them. Then Fury had an edge going through rounds 4, 5 and 6 but Usyk turned it on from 7 onwards and the knockdown made it all the more difficult. Will be an intriguing rematch. Agree Usyk was the deserved victor. Reply |
| 3. Author: arpar Date: Sun 19th May 2024. 13:47 Usyk deserved it for sure. There were a lot of close rounds though and not unreasonable that one judge had it slightly for Fury. Reply |
| 4. Author: Neil_Philp Date: Mon 20th May 2024. 15:57 Generational talent Never seen Fury smacked about like that in the latter part of the fight. COYP Reply |
| 5. Author: Bletchley_Par Date: Tue 21st May 2024. 01:30 I thought Fury won the fight, but as others have said there were a lot of close rounds and I have no issue with anyone who had it for Usyk. The IBF are about to make themselves an international laughing stock by stripping Usyk of their belt, making their strap utterly worthless. If Usyk is not "undisputed" then he certainly is undisputable by anyone who knows anything about boxing. I`m not a fan of the rematch clause culture that has crept into boxing where you have to beat a man twice to win the match, but I certainly am looking forward to these two having a go at each other again. Fury needs less fannying about if he is to improve on his performance from Saturday, he had it within his grasp and his need to showboat cost him dear.  Reply |
| 6. Author: TAFKA_Super_Petrie Date: Tue 21st May 2024. 15:57 The rematch clause is a win/win really for both fighters as it gives the champ a safety net if there was a freak result like Lewis V Hasim Rahman, likewise if it was a close fight like Saturday it makes sense for TV and the money it would bring in for a rematch as it`s what the punters want. On the flip side i`m sure there have been other times where there was a rematch clause and it was never followed through on given how one sided the initial contest was - Naseem v Barerra springs ton mind. ---------------------------------------------------------------  [b]"People always talk about Ronaldinho and magic, but I didn't see him today. I saw Henrik Larsson; that's where the magic was."[/b] Reply |
| 7. Author: sadindiefreak Date: Thu 23rd May 2024. 02:29 TAFKA_Super_Petrie, Tue 21 May 15:57 Your arguement about a safety net for a freak result doesn`t hold water. The freak result can happen in the second fight not the first, so no safety net. Reply |
| 8. Author: The One Who Knocks Date: Thu 23rd May 2024. 11:08 Sorry SIF I`m not following you there. Why can the freak result not happen in the first fight? In my mind it can`t happen in the second fight as it wouldn`t then be a freak result if it had already happened once. The example given was Lewis v Rahman. The result in the first fight was certainly an upset but if it happened again in the rematch I`m not sure it would have been. Post Edited (Thu 23 May 11:10) Reply |
| 9. Author: sadindiefreak Date: Thu 23rd May 2024. 20:14 The One Who Knocks, Thu 23 May 11:08 The first fight goes as expected, better fighter wins. They are tied into a second fight due to these dumb contracts and freak result happens in the rematch. No safety net. Reply |
| 10. Author: The One Who Knocks Date: Fri 24th May 2024. 00:02 Aye but then the crowd is invested and a trilogy is assured And although my eyes were open They just might as well be closed Reply |
| 11. Author: The One Who Knocks Date: Sat 21st Dec 2024. 23:37 Usyk out performs Fury once again to finally dispel any notion that the Ukrainian isn`t the greatest heavyweight of his generation. I hope this doesn`t become a trilogy. Usyk has nothing left to prove fighting Fury again. And although my eyes were open They just might as well be closed Reply |
| 12. Author: NMCmassive Date: Sat 21st Dec 2024. 23:53 I really don’t see a trilogy fight here. Fury tried loosing weight to keep up with him and got a hammering. He went in heavy tonight, tried to lean on him and catch his body when he could. I think the fight was closer than 4 rounds but only because Fury shut a lot of it down and won a couple of the earlier rounds by a punch here and there I don’t see what Fury could do next to Usyk? He’s be better off taking a couple of pay days against Joshua. Usyk probably going to fight Dubois but he shouldn’t look past Parker COYP Reply |
| 13. Author: Berry Date: Sun 22nd Dec 2024. 00:02 I had the fight a draw to be honest and wouldn’t complain if it went a round or two either way but by 4 is too far. Thought Fury did well, maintained his distance and used his jab well, also used his weight and height advantage when necessary. Think the big difference was Usyk finished the majority of rounds stronger which probably caught the eye of the judges more but thought Fury did better throughout majority of them. Really depends what you’re assessing rounds on! Usyk seemed to indicate Dubois rematch, prior to the fight he was contemplating going back to Cruiserweight, can’t see any better fights out there for him so he should just pack it in and retire as a great. Fury said he’d carry on regardless of outcome but I’d rather see him retire now as well, would leave the HW division naff. A Fury Joshua fight doesn’t interest me in the slightest Post Edited (Sun 22 Dec 00:06) Reply |
| 14. Author: NMCmassive Date: Sun 22nd Dec 2024. 00:08 Berry, Sun 22 Dec 00:02 That’s probably a pretty fair assessment but I do think Usyk landed a lot more punches. Had Usyk by a round or 2. 4 seems excessive to me. COYP Reply |
| 15. Author: The One Who Knocks Date: Sun 22nd Dec 2024. 00:49 Usyk landed more punches than Fury in ten of the twelve rounds. And although my eyes were open They just might as well be closed Reply |
| 16. Author: The One Who Knocks Date: Sun 22nd Dec 2024. 10:00 I see Fury graciously and magnanimously accepted he was bested by the better boxer. And although my eyes were open They just might as well be closed Reply |
| 17. Author: Dave_1885 Date: Sun 22nd Dec 2024. 11:11 Toys out the pram stuff from him and Frank Warren by looks of it - and typically biased British media as well 😂 TNTs 3 minute highlights were all of Fury….. Reply |
| 18. Author: Luxembourg Par Date: Mon 23rd Dec 2024. 15:59 What gave the ‘wide’ result is that they judges seemed to want to give a winner in each round, rather than scoring a close round 10-10. IMHO much better. Usyk landed more punches in 10 rounds, with 1 drawn and Fury connecting most (by one) in only 1 round. Many of the rounds WERE close, but 12 close rounds doesn’t necessarily mean 6-6 in round scoring. Can easily be a ‘clear’ winner - as we saw. If you win a round by 2%, you still win the round, despite the round being ‘close’. Fury was typically ineffective for much of the fight, tried to bully Usyk, and failed. With his weight, height and reach advantage, especially against a southpaw… straight punches are the game plan, the straight 1-2 on the VERY rare occasions that he threw them were successful, but as usual, not thrown anywhere near enough. Hopefully he either 1. Retires permanently and will STFU 2. Fights AJ next - who should spark him out.  Reply |
| 19. Author: shellypar Date: Tue 24th Dec 2024. 12:32 Luxembourg Par, Mon 23 Dec 15:59 I agree with most mate but AJ will not spark fury out, he has lost his spark and is not the same boxer he once was COYP Reply |
| 20. Author: TAFKA_Super_Petrie Date: Tue 24th Dec 2024. 18:50 I had it to Usyk by one or two, thought Fury had maybe nicked a draw as you never know with the judge`s as there`s often one who is miles off what the other two score it. Fury looked good for the first 8 or 9 rounds but then went back to that old tactic of a wee flurry of punches then sandbagging his big frame on top and smothering the opponent. Usually very effective if not easy on the eye and in this case not great for nicking close rounds which a lot of them were as Lux says. --------------------------------------------------------------- [b]"People always talk about Ronaldinho and magic, but I didn't see him today. I saw Henrik Larsson; that's where the magic was."[/b] Reply |
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