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Topic: National ID cards
21. Author:  Wotsit        
Date: Mon 8th Sep 2025. 12:36

Are folk really falling for the fallacy that because something is already happening we should let it happen more?

The enemy travels by private jet, not by dinghy.

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22. Author:  NewPoster2024        
Date: Mon 8th Sep 2025. 13:19

The UK really does live in some weird isolation - I swear every time a policy or idea is suggested, people are so blinded that they act as if the UK is the only country ever to have tried this type of stuff.

These systems work in many countries, and they work very well. These systems are incredibly simple from a technical standpoint.

In addition to that, the government already has your information stored in databases. They have them stored in tax databases, health databases, electoral roll databases - I could go on. When a driver`s licence or a passport is printed - that information comes from their digital database. All that happens is that it`s been printed onto a card. In this solution, it`s displayed on an app instead.

None of this is about the government having any more information about you than they already have. It isn`t about brand new centralised databases either. It`s about a simple solution that allows individuals to identify themselves digitally.

If you`re able to identify yourself digitally, then that leads to other benefits - such as being able to log into government services without needing to remember a different username or password for every service. It means databases can be linked together, with your digital ID being the link between them.

To give an example:

If you apply for a mortgage in a Nordic country - with any bank, you initially apply by logging in with your digital ID. If the bank is not the one you bank with, you can use your digitalID to give the bank access to your bank statements (instead of needing to print these out and send them over). Instead of sending over payslips, you can choose to give the bank access to your government tax statements for the previous years - verifying your income. Everything happens in minutes, which is then followed up with a meeting.

It`s utterly ridiculous that in the UK you need to gather up copies of your payslips, bank statements, p60s, identity documents, proof of deposit, then potentially things like utility bills, council tax bills, employment contracts. These things all exist digitally already.



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23. Author:  jake89        
Date: Tue 9th Sep 2025. 11:22

What is being suggested appears to be the Estonia approach. If it is, I hate to break it to people - this is already being planned in Scotland around health information. The Scottish Government is pushing ahead with improving access to health data so that it can easily be shared between, for example, your dentist and your GP. So one ID, one record, one person.

Estonia goes much further though and the same ID can be used for banking, voting and legal documents.

The simplest solution is to make it optional. People like me will sign up immediately and no longer wonder why I have to keep telling my dentist I have no allergies or heart conditions while the more cautious can keep it old school and do it manually.

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24. Author:  hurricane_jimmy        
Date: Wed 10th Sep 2025. 14:31

As a Swedish Citizen, I have such a card and it allows me to vote, settle taxes, insurance bank matters etc in Sweden. Doing things in Scotland is much harder because no unified system exists. Any claims from London of supposed efficiency are laughable.

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