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21. Author:  PARrot        
Date: Fri 31st Oct 2025. 23:09

He should be prosecuted. Royals are not above the law. Ask Anne Boleyn or Chick the first

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22. Author:  red-star-par        
Date: Fri 31st Oct 2025. 23:14

Luxembourg Par coming across very badly in his defence of the Paedo Prince. Pretty disgusting to be victim blaming the poor girl who has been groomed as a child into a life of sexual exploitation at the hands of the rich. Makes you wonder what sort of man he is....

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23. Author:  AdamAntsParsStripe        
Date: Fri 31st Oct 2025. 23:43

Andrew was clearly a dirty old pervert of course.
Abused his privilege to demean and possibly rape girls 3 times younger than him at the time.
Was he a Pedo? That might be up for debate if the incidents happened in the UK as she was 17 so legally he might be cleared of that charge if it ever went to court.

Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte


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24. Author:  sadindiefreak        
Date: Fri 31st Oct 2025. 23:54

wee eck, Fri 31 Oct 19:04

There`s one thing in particular about this that has puzzled me. In his interview with Emily Maitlis on the BBC Andrew said that on one occasion when it was claimed he was with Virginia Giuffre he was in fact visiting a pizza restaurant in Woking with his two daughters. Surely this alibi would have easy to verify by speaking to the management of the restaurant or tracking down customers of the restaurant on that particular day? They were unlikely to forget if royalty had been present. But no attempt seems to have been made by the media or anyone else to confirm or disprove what Andrew claimed.


They did approach the pizza place and nobody had any recollection of him and his daughters attendance at a party.
The question of who`s party it was should have been asked so they would be able to confirm or deny it.
Another thing that annoyed me was that when challenged about the photo, he said he had never been upstairs in Ghislaine Maxwell`s house. I would have immediately asked how on earth he knew that`s where the photo was taken.

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25. Author:  Luxembourg Par        
Date: Sat 1st Nov 2025. 00:08

red-star-par, Fri 31 Oct 23:14

Luxembourg Par coming across very badly in his defence of the Paedo Prince. Pretty disgusting to be victim blaming the poor girl who has been groomed as a child into a life of sexual exploitation at the hands of the rich. Makes you wonder what sort of man he is....


Not defending him - pointing out the difference between allegations and convictions.

You can wonder all the **** you like.



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26. Author:  ipswichpar        
Date: Sat 1st Nov 2025. 06:57

Maitlis is on the record as saying

- the pizza line was ridiculous
- he insisted adding it in after it originally wasn`t covered
- that the BBC had serious conversations about not including as it just sounded nuts

Roll all that together with the "how do you prove something that didn`t happen", and avoiding calling him a liar.

Then I think you end up with them deciding just to say nothing and let folk draw their own conclusions. I would believe her story rather than his any day of the week.

I would also stop well short of making any judgement of Giuffre. Poor girl clearly ended up in a place that I wouldn`t wish on anybody and had been dealt a pretty crap hand in life but had managed, for a while at least, to get some enjoyment with building her family. He, however, had the opportunity and privilege to do so much good and decided not to.

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27. Author:  Dandy Warhol        
Date: Sat 1st Nov 2025. 07:50

Luxembourg Par, Sat 1 Nov 00:08

red-star-par, Fri 31 Oct 23:14

Luxembourg Par coming across very badly in his defence of the Paedo Prince. Pretty disgusting to be victim blaming the poor girl who has been groomed as a child into a life of sexual exploitation at the hands of the rich. Makes you wonder what sort of man he is....


Not defending him - pointing out the difference between allegations and convictions.

You can wonder all the **** you like.


Even the mainstream news describe the victim as "having been forced to sleep with Prince Andrew", that`s rape.
Victim blaming is exactly what you are doing, i quote "well paid hooker".

I don`t wanna go down like disco.

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28. Author:  Dave_1885        
Date: Sat 1st Nov 2025. 08:17

Luxembourg Par, Fri 31 Oct 17:58

Dave_1885, Fri 31 Oct 17:40

Bloody hell 🤦🏻‍♂️ imagine openly defending a sex trafficker and dirty old man who knew exactly what he was doing by victim blaming.

What an absolute low life you are. Hope you don’t have a daughter if thats your views.


Defending WHICH sex trafficker?
Is that another allegation made at AMW?

Dirty old man - yep, fair enough.

Victim blaming? Have a word with yourself.
A well paid escort/hooker/entertainment paid for and laid on by yet another scumbag is hardly the victim.

Low life?
Cool - I’ll let you know when I’m back next and you can say that to my face 😚

And yes, I have two daughters - neither of whom would have been allowed to do that ‘work’ - where was her father while this was going on? Oh yeah, working at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago, and got her the job there, where she met Maxwell.


The fact you are calling her a “well paid hooker” covers all of the above. I don’t need to say much more really.

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29. Author:  NMCmassive        
Date: Sat 1st Nov 2025. 14:02

There women who made choices to go into prostitution, there’s women who were manipulated into prostitution. There’s 18yr old plus teenagers who were manipulated into prostitution and there 15year old plus teenagers who were manipulated into prostitution. There’s also children who were trafficked and abused.

Some of those cases involve rape and some don’t. It needs to be looked at on a case by case basis.

All round though, Andrew and the RF are in so deep it’s disgusting 🤮


Had to edit because wee plus sights didn’t work

COYP

Post Edited (Sat 01 Nov 14:05)

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30. Author:  Luxembourg Par        
Date: Sat 1st Nov 2025. 14:03

So now we are concentrating on the perception of Guiffre? Sad deflection.

The thread and the conversation was about the ALLEGATIONS against Andrew - being stated as facts.
My pointing out the absolute lack of convictions - hell not even charges - with the insistance of some in here calling him ‘rapist’, ‘pedo’, ‘trafficker’ etc

Isn’t that pretty close to libel?



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31. Author:  shellypar        
Date: Sat 1st Nov 2025. 14:40

Luxembourg Par, Sat 1 Nov 14:03

So now we are concentrating on the perception of Guiffre? Sad deflection.

The thread and the conversation was about the ALLEGATIONS against Andrew - being stated as facts.
My pointing out the absolute lack of convictions - hell not even charges - with the insistance of some in here calling him ‘rapist’, ‘pedo’, ‘trafficker’ etc

Isn’t that pretty close to libel?


Mate gon just stop please

COYP

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32. Author:  P        
Date: Sat 1st Nov 2025. 17:05

Luxembourg Par, Fri 31 Oct 17:36



There is no thinly veiled contempt here.
Much open contempt for both of them.


Open contempt for a girl groomed as a teenager - wow, just wow, what a disturbing lack of empathy

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33. Author:  jake89        
Date: Sat 1st Nov 2025. 21:58

I don`t think anyone involved in the whole (alleged) debacle comes off well.

Surely even the most staunch Royalist has to question why we still accept their existence? They`re just the descendants of a bunch of people who years ago fenced off land and claimed it was theirs. I`ve nothing against them as people but it`s time to get real and chuck them.

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34. Author:  OzPar        
Date: Sun 2nd Nov 2025. 00:22

ALLEGED...?

I`ll bet you £12 million he was guilty.



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35. Author:  Rusty Shackleford        
Date: Sun 2nd Nov 2025. 10:09

I know this has been printed a million (or 12 million?) times but it`s very valid.

Oh, the grand old Duke of York,
He had twelve million quid.
He gave it to someone he`d never met,
For something he never did.

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36. Author:  DBP        
Date: Sun 2nd Nov 2025. 10:35

Little edit required, he didnt pay the 12m

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37. Author:  OzPar        
Date: Sun 2nd Nov 2025. 11:24

Oh dear, DBP. I don`t need to edit anything. I will explain it to you.

In February 2022, Prince Andrew settled his civil lawsuit with Virginia Giuffre for a reported sum of around £12 million ($24 million). The settlement was paid out of court, but a substantial portion was reportedly funded by his mother, Queen Elizabeth II, and a loan from his brother, King Charles.

On February 15, lawyers for both parties announced that a settlement in principle had been reached, which would avoid the possibility of the case going to trial. The exact compensation was undisclosed, but it is estimated to be worth around £12 million ($16.3 million), with some of the money going to Giuffre directly and the rest to her victim support charity.

I believe Andrew sold his Swiss chalet to repay the loans.

Would he have accepted liability if he were innocent?



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38. Author:  DBP        
Date: Sun 2nd Nov 2025. 18:30

OzPar, Sun 2 Nov 11:24

...
a substantial portion was reportedly funded by his mother, Queen Elizabeth II, and a loan from his brother, King Charles.


...so sounds like he didnt pay the 12m?

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39. Author:  jake89        
Date: Sun 2nd Nov 2025. 22:52

The taxpayer basically did. For whatever reason we continue to pay for having the Royals.

Post Edited (Sun 02 Nov 22:52)

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40. Author:  DBP        
Date: Mon 3rd Nov 2025. 06:17

Yep, would disband the whole lot of them tomorrow if it was up to me.

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