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Topic: Brutal knife attack in Belfast
121. Author:  NMCmassive        
Date: Wed 1st Jul 2026. 16:50

jake89, Wed 1 Jul 11:27

It`s not an excuse, it`s basic facts. It`s why the approach to processing needs reviewed. Would you let some random you don`t know anything about take a job at your company or babysit your kids? Of course not. So why do we take someone`s word that they`re 14 and are of sound mind?

The barbers etc are an obvious front for money laundering but nothing is done by the government. Why?


Exactly, you wouldn’t let a pure random in so why offer them an excuse you know they’ll use? It’s got to be a definite no to all illegal migrants. Prove you’re an asylum seeker or out you go.

COYP

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122. Author:  jake89        
Date: Wed 1st Jul 2026. 23:12

So where do they get sent to? I`m not disagreeing but the issue is someone is effectively undocumented so who would take them?

The key thing for me is to discourage non-genuine or questionable individuals from even attempting to enter the UK. The Tories tried this with the Rwanda but that was daft, just a timid copy of what the Australians have done. The better solution would be to continue to process people in the UK but be clear that genuine cases will be waved through but anyone questionable will be held until they can be identified as genuine and not a threat.

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123. Author:  ipswichpar        
Date: Thu 2nd Jul 2026. 07:01

Send them back from where they came.

And if we can`t do that then in jail for indefinite period.

This is like running away from a bear..... we don`t need to be perfect, we just need to less appealing than other places.



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124. Author:  Dandy Warhol        
Date: Thu 2nd Jul 2026. 08:49

Lovely video doing the rounds of a guy getting off a boat saying "this is the end of England"
This is deliberate, i wonder who came up with "the melting pot"?

We`re being taken for mugs and the rising crime figures used against us.

I don`t wanna go down like disco.

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125. Author:  jake89        
Date: Thu 2nd Jul 2026. 09:15

ipswichpar, Thu 2 Jul 07:01

Send them back from where they came.

And if we can`t do that then in jail for indefinite period.

This is like running away from a bear..... we don`t need to be perfect, we just need to less appealing than other places.



Can`t send them back if we don`t know where they came from!

That story is a shocker. How did he get in so easily? Things made worse by that idiot Farage and his push for Brexit that means we have little goodwill with mainland Europe and no longer have access to their databases. It`s a joke.

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126. Author:  hurricane_jimmy        
Date: Thu 2nd Jul 2026. 09:37

If we can`t identify where they came from or they refuse to disclose it, then they should be detained indefinitely.

It really should be that simple.

I think quite a few EU Governments are gonna be forced into legislating very strict information rules within the next few years because it`s really coming to a head.

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127. Author:  ipswichpar        
Date: Thu 2nd Jul 2026. 09:38

Which is why I added the "and if", jake.

Post Edited (Thu 02 Jul 09:39)

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128. Author:  Dandy Warhol        
Date: Thu 2nd Jul 2026. 10:46

hurricane_jimmy, Thu 2 Jul 09:37

If we can`t identify where they came from or they refuse to disclose it, then they should be detained indefinitely.

It really should be that simple.

I think quite a few EU Governments are gonna be forced into legislating very strict information rules within the next few years because it`s really coming to a head.


Information rules that WE`LL have to adhere to.
Starmer doing what his jewish owners tell him.

I don`t wanna go down like disco.

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129. Author:  NMCmassive        
Date: Fri 3rd Jul 2026. 10:06

Was information rules a typo? Why would anyone want to have rules on what information we’re allowed to have or share? If that’s the route for the labour government it won’t take long for it to turn into an authoritarian state before eventually failing

COYP

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130. Author:  jake89        
Date: Fri 3rd Jul 2026. 10:25

Eh? There already ARE rules on what information can and cannot be shared. Governments need to have information sharing agreements outlined in legislation.

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131. Author:  hurricane_jimmy        
Date: Fri 3rd Jul 2026. 13:26

The whole information sharing thing is a bit of a tightrope. Having had family that have been involved in counter-terrorism policing, the average Joe would be REALLY surprised at how much stuff they actually prevent. And to do this, they need to be able to operate with a certain degree of secrecy. Some of the stories I`ve heard on this kinda subject are pretty stomach-churning and they`ve put me firmly in the camp of "If you`ve nothing to hide, then you`ve nothing to fear".

As a Swedish citizen, I genuinely believe that, regardless of which party is in power, the Police and other authorities will do their best to prevent such incidents and protect citizens. In Scotland, I would say pretty much the same, but I would really distrust the British Government when it comes to political interfering as they quite obviously spy on the pro-Independence parties, as well as meddling in other nations affairs in a way that Sweden does not.

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132. Author:  The One Who Knocks        
Date: Fri 3rd Jul 2026. 14:58

Well if the pro independence parties have nothing to hide they have nothing to fear do they?

And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed


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133. Author:  Andrew283        
Date: Fri 3rd Jul 2026. 15:00

The One Who Knocks, Fri 3 Jul 14:58

Well if the pro independence parties have nothing to hide they have nothing to fear do they?


And we have the standard head in the sand reply.

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134. Author:  Wotsit        
Date: Fri 3rd Jul 2026. 15:21

I have plenty to hide from the government. All of it is currently legal, and none of it is any of their business.

“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”

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135. Author:  wee eck        
Date: Fri 3rd Jul 2026. 15:58

There aren`t any `pro-independence parties` in the UK. They`re all trying to `rip our country apart`.

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136. Author:  NMCmassive        
Date: Fri 3rd Jul 2026. 17:31

I don’t trust the Scottish government more than Westminster. I don’t trust either. Both have documented cases of reasons to not trust them. Both try and shut down things that could be damaging to them.

I genuinely believe the majority of police officers are doing their best. They do not have the proper funding and they’re totally hampered by crazy policy and political influences north and south of the border.

It’s not an argument of left v right anymore. It suits politicians that folk argue about left v right. It doesn’t suite them when we look for evidence of competence, honesty and integrity.

COYP

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137. Author:  The One Who Knocks        
Date: Fri 3rd Jul 2026. 17:37

Andrew, you`d need to read HJs post to understand the contradiction I was highlighting.

And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed


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138. Author:  jake89        
Date: Fri 3rd Jul 2026. 19:11

Information sharing is somewhat amusing to me. People want personalised services but don`t like the government knowing their business. Right now Tesco and Netflix know more about you than any government. What Alphabet and Meta know about you is probably horrifying. People don`t seem to mind about billionaires having their data though. It`s bizarre.

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139. Author:  wee eck        
Date: Fri 3rd Jul 2026. 19:19

They must love it when the flak gets directed at politicians.

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140. Author:  NMCmassive        
Date: Fri 3rd Jul 2026. 23:39

Government doesn’t want to sell you something and have it sent to your door next day delivery. Big companies literally want to make money from you.

The government want to go through your online posts to see if you’ve said anything they don’t like and know what comes and goes into your bank account in case they can find something they can tax you on or see if you’re buying something they think you shouldn’t.

There’s a bit of a difference.

COYP

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