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21. Author: NMCmassive Date: Thu 16th Jul 2026. 19:14 veteraneastender, Thu 16 Jul 19:01 NMCmassive, Thu 16 Jul 18:45 If you’re found guilty of assault you should have your bus pass removed? Wouldn’t it just be better to go through the relevant process with the police/CPS? Removing individual rights for individuals feels very communist and it’s a slippery slope. Get arrested for a pub punch up in your 20’s = no bus pass in your 60’s? Like all the attempted murder stuff should be dealt with by the police. I doubt removal of bus pass would be a huge deterrent No CPS in Scotland though. Correct 😂 COPFS. Excuse my brain fart. Although someone more knowledgeable might know if it’s officially the PF or the Lord Advocate who really makes the decision. Who’s been done for a serious crime? What did the letter say? COYP Reply
22. Author: Dave_1885 Date: Thu 16th Jul 2026. 19:34 I don’t think thats what they meant? Im sure they meant if you commit a crime on the bus, or in the vicinity of a station, you lose the privilege of getting a free bus pass. Surely that should be a given? Reply
23. Author: Raymie the Legend Date: Thu 16th Jul 2026. 20:34 Sounds sensible to me, Dave It`s bloody tough being a legend Ron Atkinson - 1983 Reply
24. Author: pars4life1 Date: Thu 16th Jul 2026. 20:35 Is the discussion basically proposing the same as a football banning order? Like if you get caught fighting in a park you will receive a banning order if it`s related to football, you could in a similar vain receive a bus ban if your offending is directly related to that. Obviously for some a bus ban would make a far bigger impact on their personal freedoms than a football ban so it would need to be dealt with carefully, perhaps with allowances for use for certain times/routes where you can present a need even if your due a ban Reply
25. Author: jake89 Date: Thu 16th Jul 2026. 23:16 Bus pass removal for poor behaviour on the bus. ASBO for poor behaviour in town. Jail for attempted murder by stamping on a persons head. As I`ve already said, none of this behaviour is normal. Would a normal, rational person start abusing passengers or the driver on a bus? Would a normal, rational person spend their evenings shouting and threatening people in a bus station? Would a normal, rational person stamp on a random persons head and kick them in the body until unconscious? I don`t know the ins and outs of the justice world, but my understanding is no-one under 18 in Scotland can be jailed. They instead get put in a secure unit, which sounds a lot to me like jail under a different label. But what`s the punishment if you`re doing daft stuff that needs handled but not serious enough for a secure unit? Fining kids is pointless as they`re skint. Is community service an option? Could misbehaving little twats be sentenced with community service to scrape off all the UB07 and Block 7 stickers around town? Or maybe have them clean the bus station? Reply
26. Author: Back_oh_the_net Date: Fri 17th Jul 2026. 03:11 twin par, Thu 16 Jul 10:03 Yes .anyone,who cause any offending of that kind,should have their passes removed.No matter what age they are. Ah so it’s went from restrictions right across the board for young people to just removing passes from offenders it’s funny how the slightest mention of old folk having their passes restricted due to a minority who cause issues has brought that change of tune Reply
27. Author: twin par Date: Fri 17th Jul 2026. 09:42 I answered your question,sorry you don’t like my reply. Post Edited (Fri 17 Jul 10:08) Reply
28. Author: veteraneastender Date: Fri 17th Jul 2026. 12:09 NMCmassive, Thu 16 Jul 19:14 veteraneastender, Thu 16 Jul 19:01 NMCmassive, Thu 16 Jul 18:45 If you’re found guilty of assault you should have your bus pass removed? Wouldn’t it just be better to go through the relevant process with the police/CPS? Removing individual rights for individuals feels very communist and it’s a slippery slope. Get arrested for a pub punch up in your 20’s = no bus pass in your 60’s? Like all the attempted murder stuff should be dealt with by the police. I doubt removal of bus pass would be a huge deterrent No CPS in Scotland though. Correct 😂 COPFS. Excuse my brain fart. Although someone more knowledgeable might know if it’s officially the PF or the Lord Advocate who really makes the decision. Who’s been done for a serious crime? What did the letter say? Bus driver killed in Elgin - perpetrator jailed for manslaughter - released early after a relatively short prison stay. Reply
29. Author: jake89 Date: Fri 17th Jul 2026. 13:07 veteraneastender, Fri 17 Jul 12:09 NMCmassive, Thu 16 Jul 19:14 veteraneastender, Thu 16 Jul 19:01 NMCmassive, Thu 16 Jul 18:45 If you’re found guilty of assault you should have your bus pass removed? Wouldn’t it just be better to go through the relevant process with the police/CPS? Removing individual rights for individuals feels very communist and it’s a slippery slope. Get arrested for a pub punch up in your 20’s = no bus pass in your 60’s? Like all the attempted murder stuff should be dealt with by the police. I doubt removal of bus pass would be a huge deterrent No CPS in Scotland though. Correct 😂 COPFS. Excuse my brain fart. Although someone more knowledgeable might know if it’s officially the PF or the Lord Advocate who really makes the decision. Who’s been done for a serious crime? What did the letter say? Bus driver killed in Elgin - perpetrator jailed for manslaughter - released early after a relatively short prison stay. That kid is the type they should be using in school as an example. Yes, he wasn`t in prison long, but everyone in Elgin and surrounding areas knows who he is. Every time a check is done on him it`ll show up. The family of that driver will NEVER forget what he did. He`ll live the rest of his life with it hanging over him. The vast majority of these kids don`t realise that even congregating in big crowds around doors etc will be intimidating for many people. Yes, they are free to do it, but how would they feel if it was their gran or granddad whose blood pressure was going through the roof each time they go to the shops? Reply
30. Author: NMCmassive Date: Sat 18th Jul 2026. 12:03 jake89, Fri 17 Jul 13:07 veteraneastender, Fri 17 Jul 12:09 NMCmassive, Thu 16 Jul 19:14 veteraneastender, Thu 16 Jul 19:01 NMCmassive, Thu 16 Jul 18:45 If you’re found guilty of assault you should have your bus pass removed? Wouldn’t it just be better to go through the relevant process with the police/CPS? Removing individual rights for individuals feels very communist and it’s a slippery slope. Get arrested for a pub punch up in your 20’s = no bus pass in your 60’s? Like all the attempted murder stuff should be dealt with by the police. I doubt removal of bus pass would be a huge deterrent No CPS in Scotland though. Correct 😂 COPFS. Excuse my brain fart. Although someone more knowledgeable might know if it’s officially the PF or the Lord Advocate who really makes the decision. Who’s been done for a serious crime? What did the letter say? Bus driver killed in Elgin - perpetrator jailed for manslaughter - released early after a relatively short prison stay. That kid is the type they should be using in school as an example. Yes, he wasn`t in prison long, but everyone in Elgin and surrounding areas knows who he is. Every time a check is done on him it`ll show up. The family of that driver will NEVER forget what he did. He`ll live the rest of his life with it hanging over him. The vast majority of these kids don`t realise that even congregating in big crowds around doors etc will be intimidating for many people. Yes, they are free to do it, but how would they feel if it was their gran or granddad whose blood pressure was going through the roof each time they go to the shops? ☝🏻 none of that helps me to think that removing his bus pass would help anything COYP Reply
31. Author: NMCmassive Date: Sat 18th Jul 2026. 12:05 I get it, they shouldn’t get a bus pass because they’ve broke the law. My point is you can’t get to 65 without breaking the law so we should just remove bus passes from OAP’s as well. At least it’ll save the country some money COYP Reply
32. Author: veteraneastender Date: Sat 18th Jul 2026. 12:22 "My point is you can’t get to 65 without breaking the law so we should just remove bus passes from OAP’s as well. At least it’ll save the country some money. Eh ? Are you serious ? Millions of citizens with no criminal record for violence (which is the central issue here) at any age. Unless you classify speeding fines and parking tickets etc. as breaking the law in this context. In which case, Guilty As Charged - take away my bus pass. Post Edited (Sat 18 Jul 12:35) Reply
33. Author: Dave_1885 Date: Sat 18th Jul 2026. 12:29 NMCmassive, Sat 18 Jul 12:05 I get it, they shouldn’t get a bus pass because they’ve broke the law. My point is you can’t get to 65 without breaking the law so we should just remove bus passes from OAP’s as well. At least it’ll save the country some money Tell us you don’t get it, without telling us you don’t get it……. More scenes of teens in a group attacking an adult on show at the Vic last night, right in front of the maternity ward. Thing is the only one that may be charged will be the man that defended the sole lassie by dragging one of the teens away who then fell. Reply
34. Author: jake89 Date: Sat 18th Jul 2026. 13:40 Confiscate the free bus pass or ban any paying customer who causes bother on a bus or in the vicinity of a bus station. Age doesn`t matter but the key thing would be the length of the ban. Do we not have ASBOs anymore? Banning the regular bell ends from the centre of Dunfermline would be a start. If caught, get them on a tag. If caught again, put them in a cell until they can be collected. Parents must know that their kids are out causing bother. Ignorance isn`t an excuse. I just saw two wee lads flying along Trondheim Parkway on a motorbike with no helmets on. They were just wearing sports wear. Absolute morons. The bike was presumably bought by the parents. I`m sure when they end up involved in an accident we`ll get all sorts of stories about how loved they were etc. Reply
35. Author: Raymie the Legend Date: Sun 19th Jul 2026. 06:23 veteraneastender, Sat 18 Jul 12:22 "My point is you can’t get to 65 without breaking the law so we should just remove bus passes from OAP’s as well. At least it’ll save the country some money. Eh ? Are you serious ? Millions of citizens with no criminal record for violence (which is the central issue here) at any age. Unless you classify speeding fines and parking tickets etc. as breaking the law in this context. In which case, Guilty As Charged - take away my bus pass. I’m with VEE, but surely, or hopefully, this post was a wind up? It`s bloody tough being a legend Ron Atkinson - 1983 Reply
36. Author: veteraneastender Date: Sun 19th Jul 2026. 09:37 Drivers who act irresponsibly can have their licence revoked - why can’t same principle be applied to anybody with bus pass who behaves in similar manner - regardless of age ? They are a concession, a privilege granted by the state for a legitimate purpose. People need to be held responsible for their actions Reply
37. Author: NMCmassive Date: Sun 19th Jul 2026. 12:10 Dave_1885, Sat 18 Jul 12:29 NMCmassive, Sat 18 Jul 12:05 I get it, they shouldn’t get a bus pass because they’ve broke the law. My point is you can’t get to 65 without breaking the law so we should just remove bus passes from OAP’s as well. At least it’ll save the country some money Tell us you don’t get it, without telling us you don’t get it……. More scenes of teens in a group attacking an adult on show at the Vic last night, right in front of the maternity ward. Thing is the only one that may be charged will be the man that defended the sole lassie by dragging one of the teens away who then fell. I don’t know what that’s got to do with free bus passes COYP Reply
38. Author: NMCmassive Date: Sun 19th Jul 2026. 12:17 Raymie the Legend, Sun 19 Jul 06:23 veteraneastender, Sat 18 Jul 12:22 "My point is you can’t get to 65 without breaking the law so we should just remove bus passes from OAP’s as well. At least it’ll save the country some money. Eh ? Are you serious ? Millions of citizens with no criminal record for violence (which is the central issue here) at any age. Unless you classify speeding fines and parking tickets etc. as breaking the law in this context. In which case, Guilty As Charged - take away my bus pass. I’m with VEE, but surely, or hopefully, this post was a wind up? Yeah it is a bit of a wind up. Only as much as a wind up that someone who’s being done for manslaughter or whatever other serious crime is going to be worried about a free bus pass - I’m not going to murder person X cos I’ll loose my bus pass. COYP Reply

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