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Topic: Labour new clothes
41. Author:  McCaig`s Tower        
Date: Fri 27th Sep 2024. 18:02

Well we all know about the stitch up that is Fife Council, even though the SNP won a clear majority!

According to Wikipedia the SNP won 34 seats (out of 75) and 36.9% of First Preference votes (out of 100% presumably), neither of which would be a "clear majority".



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42. Author:  LochgellyAlbert        
Date: Fri 27th Sep 2024. 19:08

McCaig`s Tower, Fri 27 Sept 18:02

Well we all know about the stitch up that is Fife Council, even though the SNP won a clear majority!

According to Wikipedia the SNP won 34 seats (out of 75) and 36.9% of First Preference votes (out of 100% presumably), neither of which would be a "clear majority".


Had a majority of councillors till Labour/Tory/LibDems collaborated, as they have in numerous other Councils!

Twitter rumour about Starmer going to appear this week coming, could be fun if it`s true.

Post Edited (Fri 27 Sep 19:09)

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43. Author:  desparado        
Date: Sat 28th Sep 2024. 00:18

Oak shot has said it’s an open secret in WM…….sounds like he has been putting his sausage where he should not be putting it. Might explain the large donation from a certain individual too. Think he will be gone soon…….

What an opportunity we missed in 2014.

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44. Author:  desparado        
Date: Sat 28th Sep 2024. 00:33

Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Thu 26 Sep 22:15

Topic Originator: Bletchley_Par
Date: Thu 26 Sep 22:15


No Maternity hospital - Health is devolved.

No Proper hospital - Health is devolved.

Fife council underspend in Dunfermline - Dunfermline could declare independence from Fife?


"What an opportunity we missed in 2014." - Yeah we could have been even further up shrek creek


Health service is a mess all over the U.K., because we are in the U.K.

You assume we would be worse off with independence…..how bad do things have to get?

What ambition you have for your country….You just keep telling yourself that however bad it gets being in this Union that it would always be worse if we were independent…..” that’s the spirit” .. We all just sit and take it then…….our votes in WM elections don’t count and in case you don’t realise politicians tend not to give two hoots about people and places where they don’t need the votes.

What an opportunity we missed in 2014.

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45. Author:  Wotsit        
Date: Sat 28th Sep 2024. 12:31

I had a feeling that Bletchly would fail to notice the way I used "denier" and "zealot" (his word for those who follow the majority of the science) together, but would pick up on "denier" and go on a rant about it whilst failing to address any of the actual points made by anyone.

This is because, in the true spirit of science, he has started with a conclusion he wishes to reach and has then hunted for evidence to confirm it. The evidence doesn`t even have to be true as far as he`s concerned, it just has to be convincing. To seem true.

Ideology trumps truth for the right.

If this were 1987 he`d be showing us graphs from Philip Morris apparently debunking the link between smoking and cancer.

The enemy travels by private jet, not by dinghy.

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46. Author:  hurricane_jimmy        
Date: Sat 28th Sep 2024. 16:25

Actually Bletchley, the principles of enthalpy of Chemical bonds and vibrational energy levels within molecules is taught at both Higher and Advanced Higher level Chemistry and Physics in Scotland. Folk like yourself often point to water in the atmosphere being a "heat trapping gas" and try to use this to claim that climate change is "fake or a "hoax", but very often said folk lack an understanding of the chemical principles behind the phenomenon.

Essentially, molecules can take in energy at quantised levels until a threshold known as the Ground State Dissociation Energy is breached, at which point the molecule dissociates. The energy required to break an O-H bond is far lower than that required to break a C=O bond (note that this is a double covalent bond). The light coming from the sun is of a wavelength corresponding to an energy strong enough to break an OH bond (Plancks constant E=hf) but NOT a C=O bond. The CO2, CO and NOX molecules emitted by combustion are at higher vibrational energy levels because of the heat of the combustion reaction and will basically flee aboot and crash into other molecules such as the Oxygen and Nitrogen in your diagram, dispersing their kinetic energy - see Collision Theory - until said molecules return to the ground state, thus heating the earth. The increased quantity of CO2 molecules in the atmosphere take in sunlight and vibrate and flee aboot again because they cant dissociate and so the cycle continues. And do you really want to try and claim that CO2 is not more abundant in the atmosphere than prior to Industrialisation?

All of those principles mentioned above, I learned in Higher and Advanced Higher Chemistry and Physics in Scotland.

If you alternatively said that Scientists don`t know about the exact mechanisms by which a global temperature increase will affect natural weather phenomena, then you`d actually be presenting a valid point. As it stands, you`re actually just making a fool of yourself by denying observable Chemical and Physical phenomena.

The principle is though that you shouldn`t really spread false information about a topic that you clearly have no idea about. Or will you now simply claim that I have been brainwashed by "Left Wing Universities"?

Anyway, apologies to the other posters for the off topic post. Climate Change deniers just dae ma boax in!



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47. Author:  jake89        
Date: Sat 28th Sep 2024. 17:25

Chemistry is just woke witchcraft. Climate change is fake news and everyone knows it.

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48. Author:  wee eck        
Date: Sun 29th Sep 2024. 00:19

Back on topic, Rosie Duffield MP has resigned from the parliamentary Labour Party in protest against all the gifts and `donations` accepted by Starmer and others and the perceived lack of empathy with those struggling to make ends meet. She will now sit as an independent MP. Quite a brave decision although I think there should be a by-election when a sitting MP resigns the whip.

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49. Author:  jake89        
Date: Sun 29th Sep 2024. 09:39

Good on her. It`s not a recent thing, but the Labour party are in no way living the values they`re supposed to represent. The term "champagne socialists" comes to mind. They`re not alone though. So many MPs from across all parties just seem to be there to be on the gravy train. It`s maybe time to introduce some new schemes like the two donor cap and a cut in expenses if you earn 50k?

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50. Author:  The One Who Knocks        
Date: Sun 29th Sep 2024. 13:05

I suppose the question is has she felt this way for a while but preferred to wait until she had secured a five year deal to be an MP on a salary of 91k per annum plus expenses or did her road to Damascus moment only happen inside the last ten weeks.

And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed


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51. Author:  ipswichpar        
Date: Sun 29th Sep 2024. 13:26

Was very interesting hearing Tories claiming about Labour telling porkies to the public today on the telly. Been a while since that`s been the focus!

Good on here for sticking to her principles, even if there are questions about the timing. I suspect she may not be the last.

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52. Author:  Wotsit        
Date: Sun 29th Sep 2024. 15:36

The One Who Knocks, Sun 29 Sept 13:05

I suppose the question is has she felt this way for a while but preferred to wait until she had secured a five year deal to be an MP on a salary of 91k per annum plus expenses or did her road to Damascus moment only happen inside the last ten weeks.


Did Starmer tell her that he was planning on taking money away from pensioners and taking extravagant gifts towards himself before the election?

That`s the key fact I think.

The enemy travels by private jet, not by dinghy.

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53. Author:  The One Who Knocks        
Date: Sun 29th Sep 2024. 20:06

Not just Starmer either. I heard one of her colleagues the other day saying that Taylor Swift tickets were just too hard to turn down and then you have Angela Raynor taking freebies in the shape of New York apartment accommodation.

And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed


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54. Author:  Bletchley_Par        
Date: Sun 29th Sep 2024. 21:01

Topic Originator: The One Who Knocks
Date: Sun 29 Sep 13:05

I suppose the question is has she felt this way for a while but preferred to wait until she had secured a five year deal to be an MP on a salary of 91k per annum plus expenses or did her road to Damascus moment only happen inside the last ten weeks.



You have no clue who Rosie Duffield is or what she has been subjected to do you?

Duffield is one of these Dinosaurs who think a woman can`t have a penis and has been subject to the same vitriolic hate that JK Rowling has been lavished with for having what is called "Gender Critical Beliefs". Which is knowing basic human anatomy that caveman could grasp that seems to allude many modern day politicians.

When Rosie stated that "only women can have a cervix", which is true, no matter how much dipstick David Lammy thinks a man can grow one, Two Tier Keir Starmer stated on the Andrew Marr show in 2021 that it was "something that shouldn`t be said" and was "not right".

Rosie Duffield was the first ever Labour MP from Canterbury, a constituency that was founded in 1295 (TWELVE NINETY FIVE) with a 20% swing from the Tories in 2017 and scraping home with a 187 majority. She increased her majority against the tide of Boris Johnston`s landslide in 2019.

The idea that Duffield had secured a nice little earner hanging onto Starmer`s coattails and has now jumped ship could not be further from the truth.




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55. Author:  The One Who Knocks        
Date: Sun 29th Sep 2024. 21:45

1295! Well that changes everything.

And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed


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56. Author:  hurricane_jimmy        
Date: Tue 1st Oct 2024. 21:31

You do have to wonder how folk such as Duffield are passing the Labour screening process if they are prepared to just jump ship like that. I`d be very curious to see for sure whether the Labour Government is actually as unpopular as portrayed in the media and whether this could even go as far as Labour being kicked out after 1 term. It certainly does feel like the UK media is very Tory-leaning and that England has very much shifted in that political direction. The two unknowns though are how capable Reform will be in picking up Tory votes or if they will simply split the vote and give labour a lifeline. The Tories don`t seem to be able to offer anyone of the same standing as the likes of Cameron either.

I also certainly got a wee chuckle with how Bletchley just completely side stepped responding to my post about the "Climate Change conspiracy". Nothing like silence for an admission of "A dinna ken".



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57. Author:  LochgellyAlbert        
Date: Wed 2nd Oct 2024. 00:26

UK media Tory leaning....You`re having a laugh!!!

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58. Author:  wee eck        
Date: Wed 2nd Oct 2024. 16:17

The Labour peer Waheed Alli is under investigation by a parliamentary watchdog over a potential breach of the code of conduct, writes the Guardian’s political correspondent Eleni Courea.

Alli is being investigated after a complaint that he has not registered his interests correctly. He was listed on the Lords standards commissioners’ website on Wednesday as being subject to an inquiry. “The fact that an investigation is taking place does not mean that the rules have been broken,” the notice stated.

Lord Alli, a media businessman and a major Labour party donor who is worth an estimated £200m, has been thrust into the spotlight over tens of thousands of pounds worth of gifts he gave to Keir Starmer and Angela Rayner.



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59. Author:  red-star-par        
Date: Wed 2nd Oct 2024. 18:45

They are not really donations are they....they are bribes

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60. Author:  Wotsit        
Date: Thu 3rd Oct 2024. 15:12

Agreed RSP - it`s one of those language tricks that get used all the time to allow press and politicians to hold one set of people to higher account than another.

So we get ex-pats vs migrants and motorists vs drivers for example. One word for when they want to vilify a group and another for when they want to elicit sympathy for them. Motorists pay road tax, drivers drink-drive. Ex-pats are wholesome people living the dream abroad, migrants are criminal parasites.

Political corruption vs political donations is the same idea.

The enemy travels by private jet, not by dinghy.

The enemy travels by private jet, not by dinghy.

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