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Topic: Reform Scotland
61. Author:  DBP        
Date: Sat 16th May 2026. 00:11

Bamba-Daft, Mon 11 May 00:39

DBP, Sat 9 May 09:50

So a good strong majority in favour of independence then 👍



No? Do you know what majority means?


Bamba - Please correct me where I’m wrong


Majority meaning: “The greater number or part; a number more than half of the total.”

Election results:
- Independence supporting parties (snp and greens): 73
- union supporting parties (Labour, reform, Lib Dem’s and tories: 56

Perhaps you don’t know what representative democracy means?

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62. Author:  NMCmassive        
Date: Wed 20th May 2026. 09:11

DBP, Sat 16 May 00:11

Bamba-Daft, Mon 11 May 00:39

DBP, Sat 9 May 09:50

So a good strong majority in favour of independence then 👍



No? Do you know what majority means?


Bamba - Please correct me where I’m wrong


Majority meaning: “The greater number or part; a number more than half of the total.”

Election results:
- Independence supporting parties (snp and greens): 73
- union supporting parties (Labour, reform, Lib Dem’s and tories: 56

Perhaps you don’t know what representative democracy means?


No doubt in Scotland there is people voting for pro independence parties when it comes to elections however I don’t think that translates into a yes campaign automatically winning a yes vote.

“Independence” parties only took home 43.2% of the votes. Thats not showing a mandate imo.

Honestly. I think It’s all a bit of a misnomer though because I think some people would vote differently rather than along strict party lines.

Still what the SNP has never addressed is what they’d do with the economy and if their tax policy is to be followed it would be hard not to believe that they’d tax more in independence to try make up the shortfall- as much as they claim there’s not a shortfall.

COYP

Post Edited (Wed 20 May 09:12)

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63. Author:  DBP        
Date: Wed 20th May 2026. 09:37

I’d like to see the unionists have to give a detailed forecast of what they’ll do in the event of a ‘no’ vote on independence, and what the economy will look like in the short and medium term

They won’t, and that’s for the same reason the yes side can’t.
A) because any economic plan is made by an individual party, and who’s to say the we’ll all vote for the SNP’s vision of the future of for Scotland in the first Scottish general election
B) the unionists can’t agree what that would be, because they’ve all got there own view of how to run an economy - so if current voting trends continue - it would be farage that should paint the economic forecast of the union
C) world events generally impact all plans, so you can set strategic objectives and how they translate into proposed policies and changes - but along comes war, crisis, pandemics, etc and they have to adapt
D) the unionists wouldn’t agree to it because let’s be honest, the UK economy is no better and England isn’t exactly the land of milk and honey

Post Edited (Wed 20 May 09:39)

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64. Author:  hurricane_jimmy        
Date: Wed 20th May 2026. 09:38

Nearly 1Mn new voters have joined the Scottish electorate since 2014, with most pollsters agreeing that younger folk are far more likely to be pro-Independence.

The question for me is: why are we wasting money paying for Westminster when we could have access to the biggest single market around? And, most likely, we`d be getting development funding from the EU among other things.

It`s only moving in one direction, so we`d be best to get on with it.

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65. Author:  wee eck        
Date: Wed 20th May 2026. 09:45

Folk who are against independence love to translate the votes cast in general elections as if they were referenda to prove there isn`t a majority in favour of it but they`re happy to deny the electorate a referendum which would be an indisputable gauge of the position.

They also don`t want the SNP to spend any time talking about independence but then complain that they haven`t explained how things would work in that situation.

On the subject of taxation how much tax paid by Scots is being assigned to wasteful projects like HS2 or nuclear power stations which could be avoided under independence?

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66. Author:  jake89        
Date: Wed 20th May 2026. 20:42

The more wasted on HS2 the better as Scotland gets more pocket money the more England spends. I`m pretty sure it`s around 5x more than they said it would cost already. Absolute idiots at the helm.

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67. Author:  red-star-par        
Date: Wed 20th May 2026. 23:19

jake89, Wed 20 May 20:42

The more wasted on HS2 the better as Scotland gets more pocket money the more England spends. I`m pretty sure it`s around 5x more than they said it would cost already. Absolute idiots at the helm.


Apparently HS2’s cost per mile is estimated at roughly £750,000,000 per mile, and with standard new-build Scottish ferries (like the Islay vessels) costing about £52,000,000 each, you could build roughly 14 to 15 large Scottish ferries for the price of just one mile of the HS2 railway.

I would question where the money actually goes on a lot of these UK Government projects. I suspect much of it is siphoned off into the grubby pockets of establishment figures. The UK taxpayer is getting taken for a ride (just not on HS2 any time soon)

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68. Author:  LochgellyAlbert        
Date: Thu 21st May 2026. 13:07

Did Boris`s father not get a million?

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69. Author:  DBP        
Date: Thu 21st May 2026. 15:06

The total cost we’re all paying for hs2 to go from London to Birmingham is more than was paid to get that shuttle round the far side of the moon and back!

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70. Author:  ipswichpar        
Date: Thu 21st May 2026. 15:20

They didn`t have bats and news to worry about though!

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71. Author:  red-star-par        
Date: Thu 21st May 2026. 20:08

HS2 is an utter shambles, there`s no benefit to Scotland at all but we are subsidising little england as usual. But, let`s not talk about that, look, look, the ferries.

It`s a pity that the people in england know that as much as they would like an independent england, that collectively, as a nation, they are too wee, too stupid, too lazy, too reliant on us, to ever go it alone

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72. Author:  sadindiefreak        
Date: Thu 21st May 2026. 22:35

red-star-par, Thu 21 May 20:08

HS2 is an utter shambles, there`s no benefit to Scotland at all but we are subsidising little england as usual. But, let`s not talk about that, look, look, the ferries.

It`s a pity that the people in england know that as much as they would like an independent england, that collectively, as a nation, they are too wee, too stupid, too lazy, too reliant on us, to ever go it alone


We are absolutely not financing HS2. Because it is categorised as an England only rail project so we receive consequentials.
Arguing that we are paying for it damages the cause of Scottish Independence because its a lie.

A much better arguement is Crossrail, which cost ÂŁ18.8 billion. This was categorised as a London-specific transport project which did mean we financed it through taxation but did not receive consequentials.
This is a very important point as it is now pushed by Westminster to try and categorise projects in a way that avoids the need to pay consequentials.

The fact they are deliberately doing that is a much better arguement for independence.

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73. Author:  jake89        
Date: Thu 21st May 2026. 23:18

sadindiefreak, Thu 21 May 22:35

red-star-par, Thu 21 May 20:08

HS2 is an utter shambles, there`s no benefit to Scotland at all but we are subsidising little england as usual. But, let`s not talk about that, look, look, the ferries.

It`s a pity that the people in england know that as much as they would like an independent england, that collectively, as a nation, they are too wee, too stupid, too lazy, too reliant on us, to ever go it alone


We are absolutely not financing HS2. Because it is categorised as an England only rail project so we receive consequentials.
Arguing that we are paying for it damages the cause of Scottish Independence because its a lie.

A much better arguement is Crossrail, which cost ÂŁ18.8 billion. This was categorised as a London-specific transport project which did mean we financed it through taxation but did not receive consequentials.
This is a very important point as it is now pushed by Westminster to try and categorise projects in a way that avoids the need to pay consequentials.

The fact they are deliberately doing that is a much better arguement for independence.


More and more debt being created by England though. Debt that the Scottish taxpayer has to help cover. So although we get a few quid, the reality is we`re going to pay for that extra few quid a good few times over. At the same time, I guarantee a few parliamentary donors are getting very, very rich!

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74. Author:  Dave_1885        
Date: Fri 22nd May 2026. 07:08

One guy was on LBC the other day saying he had made the same delivery to HS2 3 times, of exactly the same stuff and order in the space of just over a week - he stated that he asked why they kept ordering the same stuff to be told it kept going missing

..no wonder its so far over budget!

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75. Author:  The One Who Knocks        
Date: Fri 22nd May 2026. 13:13

On the subject of money just a wee reminder that Nigel Farage received a ÂŁ5m gift from a crypto billionaire.

And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed


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76. Author:  NMCmassive        
Date: Tue 26th May 2026. 09:18

DBP, Wed 20 May 09:37

I’d like to see the unionists have to give a detailed forecast of what they’ll do in the event of a ‘no’ vote on independence, and what the economy will look like in the short and medium term

They won’t, and that’s for the same reason the yes side can’t.
A) because any economic plan is made by an individual party, and who’s to say the we’ll all vote for the SNP’s vision of the future of for Scotland in the first Scottish general election
B) the unionists can’t agree what that would be, because they’ve all got there own view of how to run an economy - so if current voting trends continue - it would be farage that should paint the economic forecast of the union
C) world events generally impact all plans, so you can set strategic objectives and how they translate into proposed policies and changes - but along comes war, crisis, pandemics, etc and they have to adapt
D) the unionists wouldn’t agree to it because let’s be honest, the UK economy is no better and England isn’t exactly the land of milk and honey


The unionists don’t need to give an economic plan because their plan is to carry on with the current plan. It’s not difficult to work that out.

The ‘yes’ campaign needs to have a plan that at the very least looks like it would put business in a better financial position than the ‘no’ campaign, they’ve had over a decade to do it but have never been able to.

COYP

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77. Author:  wee eck        
Date: Tue 26th May 2026. 10:21

`The unionists don’t need to give an economic plan because their plan is to carry on with the current plan. It’s not difficult to work that out.`


Breath-taking. How much is the UK National debt?



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78. Author:  jake89        
Date: Tue 26th May 2026. 10:50

Genuinely LOL at the unionist economic plan being the current one.

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79. Author:  NMCmassive        
Date: Tue 26th May 2026. 11:29

By the way, I’m not here to convince anyone the UK is doing well or that Brexit has been a success or anything else. What I am saying though is that even for how poor the UK has done in the last 20 years, the SNP still can’t come up with a credible alternative.

But rather than addressing it, they’ll just blame Westminster and let the money train role on. The only ones benefiting are the SNP.

COYP

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80. Author:  Tenruh        
Date: Tue 26th May 2026. 12:26

NMCmassive, Tue 26 May 11:29

By the way, I’m not here to convince anyone the UK is doing well or that Brexit has been a success or anything else. What I am saying though is that even for how poor the UK has done in the last 20 years, the SNP still can’t come up with a credible alternative.

But rather than addressing it, they’ll just blame Westminster and let the money train role on. The only ones benefiting are the SNP.


Alex Salmond said the first thing you do is convince people that you can actually government then everything follows.
I suppose Sturgeon’s brought us the baby-box

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