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Topic: Reform Scotland
81. Author:  jake89        
Date: Tue 26th May 2026. 19:44

Tenruh, Tue 26 May 12:26

NMCmassive, Tue 26 May 11:29

By the way, I’m not here to convince anyone the UK is doing well or that Brexit has been a success or anything else. What I am saying though is that even for how poor the UK has done in the last 20 years, the SNP still can’t come up with a credible alternative.

But rather than addressing it, they’ll just blame Westminster and let the money train role on. The only ones benefiting are the SNP.


Alex Salmond said the first thing you do is convince people that you can actually government then everything follows.
I suppose Sturgeon’s brought us the baby-box


But the Scottish Government IS doing a good job by comparison.

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82. Author:  NMCmassive        
Date: Tue 26th May 2026. 22:30

jake89, Tue 26 May 19:44

Tenruh, Tue 26 May 12:26

NMCmassive, Tue 26 May 11:29

By the way, I’m not here to convince anyone the UK is doing well or that Brexit has been a success or anything else. What I am saying though is that even for how poor the UK has done in the last 20 years, the SNP still can’t come up with a credible alternative.

But rather than addressing it, they’ll just blame Westminster and let the money train role on. The only ones benefiting are the SNP.


Alex Salmond said the first thing you do is convince people that you can actually government then everything follows.
I suppose Sturgeon’s brought us the baby-box


But the Scottish Government IS doing a good job by comparison.


It’s actually not though.

From its own stats 2024-25 we’re running a 12% deficit. If we were independent, that would be the highest deficit in Europe.

Our deficit has moved between 8-14% in recent years but we’ve always been higher than the UK average.

Basically the countries revenue was £91.4 billion incl North Sea oil and we spent £117.6 billion.

Without North Sea oil our deficit would be over £30billion - about 14%

Makes me wonder why we’re so against developing North Sea oil further. The indyref argument was we could milk it for what it’s worth for our own betterment. The whole just transition policy is almost a 180degree turn away from that.

COYP

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83. Author:  jake89        
Date: Wed 27th May 2026. 18:45

But Scotland can`t run a deficit. It has a set budget.

It`s using it to full effect and has far lower child poverty rates, a better run NHS and hasn`t seen as extensive public service cuts as there`s been in English councils. That sounds like a decent job to me.

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84. Author:  NMCmassive        
Date: Wed 27th May 2026. 21:24

You’re right Jake. Thankfully we take from the UK budget rather than our own otherwise we’d be running at a huge deficit.

You can get all this from the GERS figures that Holyrood put together and produce - if you didn’t know. They’re showing for 2024/25 Scotlands expenditure exceeded it production.

For context the UK as a whole has a deficit of 4.3%

COYP

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85. Author:  jake89        
Date: Wed 27th May 2026. 22:44

Sounds like Westminster should kick Scotland out then.

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86. Author:  red-star-par        
Date: Wed 27th May 2026. 23:06

jake89, Wed 27 May 22:44

Sounds like Westminster should kick Scotland out then.


Yep, definitely. What`s the point in england subsidising Scotland? They need to kick Scotland out and go it alone. I`m sure england would be much better off without Scotland

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87. Author:  wee eck        
Date: Wed 27th May 2026. 23:26

When the annual GERS figures are published it`s seldom mentioned that separate figures are published for the three devolved nations and nine regions of England. Traditionally the only ones which show a `surplus` are London and the South East. I wonder why that is? Of the others Scotland usually performs relatively well.

These figures show revenue and expenditure for Scotland as part of the UK which wouldn`t necessarily be the same if it were an independent country with its own government, making its own decisions.

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88. Author:  NMCmassive        
Date: Thu 28th May 2026. 09:13

I agree Eck they wouldn’t necessarily be the same but it doesn’t mean they’d be better either, likelihood is they’d be worse for a concerted period of time which goes back to my point, if we want independence we need to show competence in government and have a clear plan for the economy post split. We’re clearly failing on both fronts because Reform isn’t an accident. Nigel Farage wouldn’t have a leg to stand on up here if we were atleast performing well socially and financially. There’s to much he can talk about, he doesn’t need to tell lies.

We are not heading in the right direction and the longer it keeps going, the worse it will get. Eventually Reform/Restore or whoever will be a strong political voice in Scotland.

COYP

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89. Author:  wee eck        
Date: Thu 28th May 2026. 10:07

I`m not convinced Reform is as big a threat in Scotland as they are in England. They`re doing well because the Tories are in disarray but the Tories have had no electoral success in Scotland since the 1950s so I think there`s a limit on what progress Reform can make up here.

We now have three devolved governments with aspirations of independence. Westminster will try to frustrate them but acting together they may be able to force WM to change its stance.

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90. Author:  NMCmassive        
Date: Thu 28th May 2026. 10:55

Right now they’re not. Between the tories and reform they took around 28% of the vote when generally they’ve been a lot closer to 20%.

Reforms rise isn’t insignificant and to be perfectly honest, I’m blaming Holyrood 100% for it.

I’m actually starting to think Rupert Lowe will end up stronger than Farage down there because things like this £5million from a crypto guy in Thailand just doesn’t work.

COYP

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91. Author:  87Par        
Date: Thu 28th May 2026. 23:15

Andrew283, Fri 8 May 22:19

Looks like Reform and their goblins haven`t sunk their claws into Scotland as much as they`d have wanted.


Hmmm. Look at the goblins we got eh.

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92. Author:  Dave_1885        
Date: Tue 2nd Jun 2026. 15:34

Deary me Nige 🤦🏻‍♂️ on a day that murder victim Henry Novak’s dad stands with dignity outside court and asks for his name not to be used for hate or division by anyone, Mr Farage comes out saying “white lives matter” and we should respond with “cold rage”……..

This man is an odious turd and I really hope Mr Nowak calls him out for it in another dignified manner.

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93. Author:  wee eck        
Date: Thu 18th Jun 2026. 14:13

Meanwhile...

Nigel Farage has been trying to block a Bank of England cryptocurrency plan that could be costly for the billionaire bankrolling his party.

The Reform UK leader has said Christopher Harborne wants nothing in exchange for the millions he has donated to the party and the undeclared £5m personal gift to Farage that the Guardian revealed in April.

But Farage used a private meeting at the Bank to urge the governor to drop plans for a state-run alternative to the digital currency that has made his Thailand-based benefactor one of the richest people in the world.



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94. Author:  DBP        
Date: Thu 18th Jun 2026. 16:46

State run will be folly… if you want crypto then bitcoin is the only real, long term credible game in town and lets you escape government control and meddling (eg quantitative easing).

Apart from being legal tender in some places around the world, you can also get bank card style accounts that mean you can convert at time off purchase, ie use contactless to purchase something in Dunfermline using bit coin

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95. Author:  wee eck        
Date: Thu 18th Jun 2026. 17:30

Has Nigel Farage infiltrated the Forum?



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96. Author:  jake89        
Date: Thu 18th Jun 2026. 18:03

It`s a good thing England won last night as I was ready to throw the wife at the TV. They better keep on winning or she`ll need an ambulance.

The genuine belief of a Reform MP. Absolutely incredible. Making a complete mockery of violence against women and girls. What an absolute cunt.

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97. Author:  red-star-par        
Date: Thu 18th Jun 2026. 20:03

Crypto Currency is a load of nonsense, it`s like tulip fever, a lot of people getting rich off it, and a lot of people losing a lot. I`ve done quite well out of it, but it will all come crashing down eventually

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98. Author:  Dave_1885        
Date: Fri 19th Jun 2026. 16:15

They done well last night in the by-elections at least…….didn’t win a single one and their biggest push ended in a trouncing 😂

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