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Topic: The Protection Racket. Why is Sturgeon free ?
21. Author: McCaig`s Tower Date: Sat 30th May 2026. 12:40 The electorate and party members are also culpable? That`s just plainly ridiculous MT. I think people have a responsibility for how they cast their vote, TOWK, and for the consequences. Who voted the elected officials in? The SNP membership. To be fair, having reread Robin McAlpine’s piece, he has a go at the membership as well, but for keeping schtum. Blaming the electorate is more tenuous, but if you’re blaming the media for not doing anything then you could argue that those who put the SNP in power have responsibility. I would absolutely blame people who voted for Brexit (for example) for the consequences of being out of Europe. Sure, Peter Murrell must carry the can, but I don’t think it is true to claim that others have no responsibility whatsoever (the failure to take responsibility for anything is another party failing, IMO) and this is one of Mr McAlpine’s arguments. Reply
22. Author: Tenruh Date: Sat 30th May 2026. 12:44 wee eck, Sat 30 May 11:41 You criticise Swinney & Co for having no Plan B but we`re still waiting to hear what your Plan A is. You do realise they get paid on the basis they fulfil their manifesto promises. Reply
23. Author: wee eck Date: Sat 30th May 2026. 12:48 Any Scottish voter knows that in the present UK set-up a Scottish government can`t achieve independence without the co-operation of Westminster. Reply
24. Author: wee eck Date: Sat 30th May 2026. 13:00 `Blaming the electorate is more tenuous, but if you’re blaming the media for not doing anything then you could argue that those who put the SNP in power have responsibility. I would absolutely blame people who voted for Brexit (for example) for the consequences of being out of Europe.` I don`t get this argument at all. Couldn`t this embezzlement have happened if the SNP were in opposition rather than in power? The comparison with Brexit isn`t valid in my opinion. That decision was taken in a referendum where people were voting `yes` or `no` on one issue unlike in a general election where they could be influenced by many issues. Reply
25. Author: NMCmassive Date: Sat 30th May 2026. 13:13 wee eck, Sat 30 May 12:39 `Swinney and co are the ones proposing the change so the onus is on them to have a plan for change. Not the other way about 🤷🏻‍♂️` As far as I know, Tenruh wants change. He criticises the SNP and the Greens but he never suggests an alternative. Westminster`s approval is required for a democratic referendum but they never set any parameters so they can veto any request on a whim. Any unionists who might think this is undemocratic just turn a deaf ear because it supports the status quo. Do you think he should start his own political party? What are you asking off him? The whole Westminster is stopping us thing is just rhetoric. They don’t have a mandate for independence. Pro independence parties might have taken a majority of seats but that’s very different to a majority of vote share. I mean if you want another referendum about independence now, would it be worth it? Pro Independence parties are only taking around 40% of the votes. The same issues they lost on are still big issues and some of the issues we were strong on, we now look weaker on 🤷🏻‍♂️ I can’t say there’s one thing that Scotland has got better at since indyref 1. COYP Post Edited (Sat 30 May 13:25) Reply
26. Author: wee eck Date: Sat 30th May 2026. 13:22 You don`t have to start your own football team to have ideas about how the game should be played. It`s a forum to share ideas on. Reply
27. Author: NMCmassive Date: Sat 30th May 2026. 13:26 wee eck, Sat 30 May 13:22 You don`t have to start your own football team to have ideas about how the game should be played. It`s a forum to share ideas on. Sorry I started editing my reply then got taken away by something. Still my point still stands, are you wanting him to lay out policies? What are your policies? COYP Reply
28. Author: wee eck Date: Sat 30th May 2026. 13:46 I think we should be putting pressure on to get some criteria set down in statute as to when a referendum should be granted. Reply
29. Author: ipswichpar Date: Sat 30th May 2026. 15:10 With the same defining when a new referendum should happen to rejoin the UK if folk change their mind? Reply
30. Author: wee eck Date: Sat 30th May 2026. 15:20 Presumably the Unionists wouldn`t be happy with `once in a generation`. Reply
31. Author: ipswichpar Date: Sat 30th May 2026. 15:54 Well, if that was what they agreed to, I am sure that they would stick to it rather than banging on about it all the time. Reply
32. Author: NMCmassive Date: Sat 30th May 2026. 16:16 ipswichpar, Sat 30 May 15:54 Well, if that was what they agreed to, I am sure that they would stick to it rather than banging on about it all the time. As much as I’m an independence supporter, I actually agree with you. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander. I think we’re a decade away from an independence referendum. How can you say you’re an independence supporter but say we’re a decade away from a referendum and agree with Ipswichpars point? Well my point of view is I don’t want to weaken the country further for no good reason. I want Scotland to be on an upward trajectory not a downward path. The union holds us back from independent improvement but we also benefit from having the support of a bigger economy when it’s going wrong. At the moment, it’s going wrong and nobody can argue with the facts when they’re put simply and in context. I definitely believe Scotlands future will be political independence from England and vice versa but we need to have a coherent financial strategy, we need to know how we’re going to play our part in the defence of the North Atlantic and we need some competent governance. None of which are on offer at the moment from Holyrood but all of which we are actually in a better position while inside the United Kingdom. As much as some say that’s not the case, they can’t offer a better solution 🤷🏻‍♂️ COYP Reply
33. Author: jake89 Date: Sat 30th May 2026. 16:45 NMCmassive, Sat 30 May 16:16 ipswichpar, Sat 30 May 15:54 Well, if that was what they agreed to, I am sure that they would stick to it rather than banging on about it all the time. As much as I’m an independence supporter, I actually agree with you. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander. I think we’re a decade away from an independence referendum. How can you say you’re an independence supporter but say we’re a decade away from a referendum and agree with Ipswichpars point? Well my point of view is I don’t want to weaken the country further for no good reason. I want Scotland to be on an upward trajectory not a downward path. The union holds us back from independent improvement but we also benefit from having the support of a bigger economy when it’s going wrong. At the moment, it’s going wrong and nobody can argue with the facts when they’re put simply and in context. I definitely believe Scotlands future will be political independence from England and vice versa but we need to have a coherent financial strategy, we need to know how we’re going to play our part in the defence of the North Atlantic and we need some competent governance. None of which are on offer at the moment from Holyrood but all of which we are actually in a better position while inside the United Kingdom. As much as some say that’s not the case, they can’t offer a better solution 🤷🏻‍♂️ Almost all those decisions would be for whichever party is in power to make, not the SNP. Reply
34. Author: NMCmassive Date: Sat 30th May 2026. 19:22 jake89, Sat 30 May 16:45 NMCmassive, Sat 30 May 16:16 ipswichpar, Sat 30 May 15:54 Well, if that was what they agreed to, I am sure that they would stick to it rather than banging on about it all the time. As much as I’m an independence supporter, I actually agree with you. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander. I think we’re a decade away from an independence referendum. How can you say you’re an independence supporter but say we’re a decade away from a referendum and agree with Ipswichpars point? Well my point of view is I don’t want to weaken the country further for no good reason. I want Scotland to be on an upward trajectory not a downward path. The union holds us back from independent improvement but we also benefit from having the support of a bigger economy when it’s going wrong. At the moment, it’s going wrong and nobody can argue with the facts when they’re put simply and in context. I definitely believe Scotlands future will be political independence from England and vice versa but we need to have a coherent financial strategy, we need to know how we’re going to play our part in the defence of the North Atlantic and we need some competent governance. None of which are on offer at the moment from Holyrood but all of which we are actually in a better position while inside the United Kingdom. As much as some say that’s not the case, they can’t offer a better solution 🤷🏻‍♂️ Almost all those decisions would be for whichever party is in power to make, not the SNP. That’s kind of irrelevant though. They’re supposed to offer something to make us want to vote for independence and they’re not. We won’t get independence because we might not have the SNP in government. At the moment they’re the biggest political party in Scotland so would it be correct to assume that they wouldn’t have control of the early independent Scottish government? COYP Reply
35. Author: jake89 Date: Sat 30th May 2026. 22:04 The SNP likely get a large number of votes from those who see no other option for independence. After independence is gained they will serve no purpose. The other option would be the Greens but they`ve immediately gone in on trans issues (again) rather than green issues. Reply
36. Author: AdamAntsParsStripe Date: Sun 31st May 2026. 06:33 I’ve said it before and say it again. The Scottish Government should be seeking international pressure to force a London based Parliament to grant a democratic referendum. The louder the noise from outside, the better the chances someone will listen. Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte Reply
37. Author: Bletchley_Par Date: Sun 31st May 2026. 07:26 Sturgeon is just another crooked politician who got found out and is now using improbable deniability to maintain her victim status. She is part of the blob now. Reply
38. Author: wee eck Date: Sun 31st May 2026. 07:38 Is Trump part of this `blob`? He never takes responsibility for anything. Reply
39. Author: ipswichpar Date: Sun 31st May 2026. 08:02 Bletchley_Par, Sun 31 May 07:26 Sturgeon is just another crooked politician who got found out and is now using improbable deniability to maintain her victim status. She is part of the blob now. Being punished for a crime she didn`t commit.... feels like the start of The A Team. Reply
40. Author: Aaron Labonte Date: Sun 31st May 2026. 08:06 More whataboutery Reply

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