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| 41. Author: jake89 Date: Sun 31st May 2026. 12:59 ipswichpar, Sun 31 May 08:02 If you have a campervan, and you can find it, maybe you can drive...to A-berdeen Reply |
| 42. Author: Bletchley_Par Date: Sun 31st May 2026. 13:00 Look behind you! A three headed Trump!!! Quick Nicki, run while they are not looking.  Reply |
| 43. Author: NMCmassive Date: Sun 31st May 2026. 16:22 Let’s be honest, nobody in that A team would see, remember or know anything It would be more like the “eh? Team” COYP Reply |
| 44. Author: Tenruh Date: Mon 1st Jun 2026. 06:36 When the concerns started. The referendum fund was launched on March 2017, initially it was thought there was only one fund for SNP members only , but there was actually two funds ,the other for independence supporters who were non members of the SNP. It was other money Murrell spent prior to 2017, so whatever has happened to the bulk of the referendum fundraiser. This has a long way to play out. It took 10 years to wreck the independence movement and Sturgeon’s moving to London to be de-briefed. https://www.facebook.com/share/v/17vukx3hiw/ https://wingsoverscotland.com/the-view-from-row-z/ Post Edited (Mon 01 Jun 06:51) Reply |
| 45. Author: McCaig`s Tower Date: Fri 5th Jun 2026. 13:48 I don`t get this argument at all. Couldn`t this embezzlement have happened if the SNP were in opposition rather than in power? The comparison with Brexit isn`t valid in my opinion. That decision was taken in a referendum where people were voting `yes` or `no` on one issue unlike in a general election where they could be influenced by many issues. I was trying to make two (relatively minor, it should be said) points. One, voters should bear responsibility for the way they cast their votes. It`s not a game. Two, if Robin McAlpine is in the game of casting blame all over the shop, there are some potential candidates that I thought he had missed out. Referendums (referenda??) are clearly different from “normal” elections, but they are comparable IMO. In a referendum there are loads of arguments, which crystallise into one decision. So it is with an election but there may be more options. Personalities will be involved. You may perceive your favourite candidate has little chance. You may wish to send a short term message. But it’s still your responsibility, and your vote will be treated by the party as a “mandate”, even for things that you don’t agree with and may not even have been in their manifesto, or their power to give. On the second, yes, the embezzlement could still have happened with the SNP in opposition, possibly not to the same degree (there would have been less money), but to an extent a vote for the SNP would be interpreted as an endorsement, and they would have been empowered and emboldened by winning. I don’t pretend it’s a strong argument, but voting has consequences. I believe that on the second occasion Colin Beattie was only elected by default as best placed loser when Douglas Chapman resigned, but he seem to have been hood-winked rather easily. Meanwhile, it seems that Murrell`s embezzlement started slowly, cranked up about 2016 and really took off [b]after[/b] questions started being asked (and shut down) about the missing IndyRef2 funds. Reply |
| 46. Author: NMCmassive Date: Fri 5th Jun 2026. 19:36 Who shut down the questions? 🤷🏻♂️ COYP Reply |
| 47. Author: McCaig`s Tower Date: Sat 6th Jun 2026. 20:30 Who shut down the questions? Well, there’s a video clip of Nicola doing the rounds, where she tells people not to suggest that there is anything amiss. Joanna Cherry has accused Kirsten Oswald of not allowing challenge at the NEC. Remember, this is a party that banned MPs from criticising the party (in other parties this seems to be compulsory...). This Stalinist approach to party discipline has had its inevitable consequence. Reply |
| 48. Author: NMCmassive Date: Sat 6th Jun 2026. 20:50 You mean to tell me the same person who had MP’s sacked from the party, was the same person who told everyone to stop asking questions, was the same person who was married to the guy who was in charge of the money? Well I doubt there’s anything else dodgy about her actions… COYP Reply |
| 49. Author: Tenruh Date: Sun 7th Jun 2026. 07:14 NMCmassive, Sat 6 Jun 20:50 Yip the same person who introduced so many hurdles to deny Joanna Cherry the opportunity to stand in the 2021 Holyrood elections but the conditions forced on JC removed this recent election to accommodate Flynn and Gethins. Flynn,Gethins, Sturgeon or Cherry there`s only one individual there that would have fought to get us Independence, the others are all compromised. Reply |
| 50. Author: hurricane_jimmy Date: Sun 7th Jun 2026. 09:25 Still reckon Cherry would make a great first minister and I do hope that she considers a return as she has a habit of snagging Westminster up! Reply |
| 51. Author: jake89 Date: Sun 7th Jun 2026. 19:32 hurricane_jimmy, Sun 7 Jun 09:25 100%. She also seems to consider the obsession with Trans rights as taking up too much time, which it is. Tiny proportion of people. You don`t see the Greens raising issues for other minorities like gypsy travellers. Completely support people to do what they want provided it`s not hurting anyone, but let`s focus on sorting out deprivation, education, social care etc first. Reply |
| 52. Author: Wotsit Date: Mon 8th Jun 2026. 19:53 I don`t think I understand your point jake - are you saying that no government should address anything else until poverty, education and social care are sorted? “The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.” Reply |
| 53. Author: jake89 Date: Mon 8th Jun 2026. 20:10 Wotsit, Mon 8 Jun 19:53 Those are just examples of things that are bigger priorities than determining which toilets can be used by who, which affects 0.44% of people in Scotland (or 0.07% trans women, given this is seen as the group of greatest concern). While I appreciate the needs of trans people, those needs shouldn`t take precedence over issues affecting far more, including the 20% of kids in Scotland brought up in poverty or the 2000 people each day who are stuck on hospital wards because there`s no-one to sort their care plan or care setting to return to. Reply |
| 54. Author: Wotsit Date: Tue 9th Jun 2026. 13:54 But there are loads of little things that government, at various levels, has to deal with and loads of them do not directly impact the majority - what percentage of the population has a hospital stay each year for example? Education is another one - how many of us are attending university in any given year? What about the issues that only impact island communities - how many folk live in the Western Isles, yet there has been a lot of focus on ferries: are we not supposed to discuss the mess that`s been made of the ferries because so few folk are impacted? Different people have different priorities, and sometimes we have to look at the priorities of, often tiny, minorities because we live in a society that believes (or, rather, believed) in protecting the rights of everyone, even smaller minorities. “The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.” Reply |
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