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| 241. Author: ipswichpar Date: Mon 17th Aug 2026. 14:43 Wow.... there are fewer than 35% people in the UK from ethnic minorities. Strange for them to put such a strong message on it without stating other data to help the reader make a more informed conclusion. Other data such as social status might have been a bit more helpful too. Reply |
| 242. Author: P Date: Mon 17th Aug 2026. 14:47 wee eck, Mon 17 Aug 14:29 I don’t think that 35% is quite the burn that the Guardian thinks it is, that is massive especially considering they are defined as a minority, so a minority committing over a third of killings is horrendous and absolutely something to be worried about regardless of whether people guess the right percentage or not. Reply |
| 243. Author: LochgellyAlbert Date: Mon 17th Aug 2026. 14:55 Would be interesting to see how quick the immigrants are being processed, has there been any improvement? If they are short of staff there are plenty people unemployed, that would be a double whammy for the Social Security budget! Reply |
| 244. Author: NMCmassive Date: Mon 17th Aug 2026. 14:59 I don’t accept the reasoning that we should accept murdering and raping by new people because people from here have done it already. If that not the point of those statistics, what is the point of those statistics? I accept even legal migrants will do some horrible crimes but at the very least they gained entry to the UK because they were bringing something (a skill set/knowledge base - whatever) and well, things go wrong and people do stuff they shouldn’t. We’ll deal with it when it happens. I don’t accept that we should just deal with it when it’s an illegal migrant. The question will always be-why was he/she even here? Also worth noting that the beheader from Belfast got Asylum status by filling out a form rather than a face to face interview because the queue was too long. COYP Reply |
| 245. Author: wee eck Date: Mon 17th Aug 2026. 15:37 My reference to the Guardian story was just an opening summary. Here`s the full article - The academics who conducted the survey said feelings about levels of crime and who was to blame were a reflection of people’s emotions, rather than the facts. Public estimates of foreign national offenders show why crime could be fertile ground for the far right. People surveyed thought foreign national offenders comprised 25% of the prison population, when the real figure is 12%. Respondents also overestimated the proportion of sexual offences committed by foreigners, believing it to be 30% when the real figure is 15%. Again Reform voters’ perceptions were the most wrong, with them believing 50% of sexual offences were by foreign nationals – 20% higher than those who told the survey they were Conservative supporters. Prof Bobby Duffy, of King’s College, said: “There are two buckets of explanations for our misperceptions: how we think and what we’re told. On the former, it’s vital to recognise that misperceptions are partly driven by what we’re worried about. Cause and effect run in both directions, where we inflate the scale of an issue if it’s something we’re concerned about. Reform supporters’ higher concern about immigration and diversity … will mean they’re more likely to give attention and weight to things they see that fit with that view, including crimes being committed by those groups. On what we’re told, they’re also more likely to be seeing media, social media and political communications that emphasise those examples.” The survey also showed that claims of two-tier justice – meaning ethnic minorities have an easier time – are talking hold, despite all the evidence being to the contrary. It found that 52% thought ethnic or religious minorities were sentenced differently for crimes, with 29% believing they got more lenient sentences, and 23% thinking they were sentenced more harshly. Duffy said those who believed two-tier justice claims were more likely to question the system and call for radical change. “This is important for trust and faith in the system, which is an issue particularly when it’s not justified by the reality,” he said. “We may end up taking actions that are not necessary or effective.” Duffy also highlighted that respondents’ views coincided more with people their own age rather than their own ethnicity. “For example, gen Z puts the white share of homicide convictions at 58%, whereas baby boomers put it at 35%. But white and non-white respondents give almost identical answers,” he said. The survey also found that people overestimated the number of crime victims. The public’s median guess was 27%, far higher than the real figure of 9.7% who had personally experienced crime between 2024 and 2025. Duffy said: “Our misperceptions are more of a general emotional reaction than careful study of the facts – we’re sending messages about what’s worrying us.` Post Edited (Mon 17 Aug 16:05) Reply |
| 246. Author: jake89 Date: Mon 17th Aug 2026. 19:29 What % of the population is a foreign national though? I`ll bet it`s less than 15% and that`s why people perceive "foreigners" to be dodgy. Reply |
| 247. Author: Dandy Warhol Date: Tue 18th Aug 2026. 08:52 I`ll just keep it simple, every other day there`s a report of a horrible rape or sexual assault by someone here illegally, it has to stop, we don`t even have enough room for our own rapists. Some of these men come from countries where rape ir taking child brides is practically normal, it`s madness. Mist recently an "Eritrean" man dragged an older man behind a church and raped him, we'll pay to keep the b*stard. I don`t wanna go down like disco. Post Edited (Tue 18 Aug 09:02) Reply |
| 248. Author: ipswichpar Date: Tue 18th Aug 2026. 09:25 Took over a year to get to court. Perhaps that was because it took a while to find him an interpretor. Between Boris, Cameron and Osborne I think they have managed to break so many key public services. Shocking. Reply |
| 249. Author: wee eck Date: Tue 18th Aug 2026. 09:47 `British prisons for British rapists!` I can see that catching on with Tommy Robinson & Co. Reply |
| 250. Author: ipswichpar Date: Tue 18th Aug 2026. 09:49 Probably a better one than "Invite anybody into your house and hope they aren`t a rapist." Reply |
| 251. Author: Dandy Warhol Date: Tue 18th Aug 2026. 12:15 wee eck, Tue 18 Aug 09:47 You trying to be funny? Yeah, ironically it should be British prisons for British rapists, but there`s no room. Your patter is cringe. An old man, raped and you come in trying to be smart, says a lot about you. I don`t wanna go down like disco. Reply |
| 252. Author: wee eck Date: Tue 18th Aug 2026. 12:29 Well it was you who said `we don`t even have enough room for our own rapists` which seems a strange take on things. You seem more concerned about the cost of keeping the accused in prison than the fate of the old man. What does that say about you? Reply |
| 253. Author: Dandy Warhol Date: Tue 18th Aug 2026. 13:56 wee eck, Tue 18 Aug 12:29 Read what you typed again, jeez, not the full kit bag are you. I don`t wanna go down like disco. Reply |
| 254. Author: wee eck Date: Tue 18th Aug 2026. 14:35 You never actually address any question raised about your posts, do you? You just hurl another insult out. Anyway, I thought you told us you were moving from the UK to the Baltic? It won`t be your problem then. Reply |
| 255. Author: Dave_1885 Date: Tue 18th Aug 2026. 15:00 Any links to these stories Dandy? Reply |
| 256. Author: Dandy Warhol Date: Tue 18th Aug 2026. 15:58 Dave_1885, Tue 18 Aug 15:00 It`s literally all over the news. Of course, despite being convicted in court, it didn`t happen, right? Clown country. I don`t wanna go down like disco. Reply |
| 257. Author: Dandy Warhol Date: Tue 18th Aug 2026. 16:00 wee eck, Tue 18 Aug 14:35 You know fine well what people mean, like you`re coblnstsntly called out on, you just like to think you`re smart by being contrary. Sad little manchild. I don`t wanna go down like disco. Reply |
| 258. Author: wee eck Date: Tue 18th Aug 2026. 16:16 Another insult, right on cue! Have you got a store of them? Reply |
| 259. Author: Dave_1885 Date: Tue 18th Aug 2026. 17:44 Dandy Warhol, Tue 18 Aug 15:58 All I asked for was links 🤷🏻♂️😂 Reply |
| 260. Author: jake89 Date: Tue 18th Aug 2026. 18:32 The Guardian story is highlighting exactly what is in this very thread. There are far fewer immigrant crimes than people perceive. However, there are still far more than there should be per head. Reply |