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| 21. Author: Raymie the Legend Date: Fri 27th Sep 2024. 00:47 Paralex, Thu 26 Sep 22:21 You’ve missed my point. Not condoning anything and not saying we shouldn’t endeavour to root out the culprits, but until we do, it would seem to be a sensible safety measure?  It`s bloody tough being a legend Ron Atkinson - 1983 Reply |
| 22. Author: SusieQ Date: Fri 27th Sep 2024. 06:27 Here we go again and a completely new level of neanderthal behaviour. They need to close the stand tbh - a shame for the decent fans who sit in there but it`s now beyond ridiculous. Breaking seats in your own stadium during a win. Start with closing for the Raith & Falkirk games & if the behaviour persists in other games, get it shut permanently. No other option - self policing if it exists in there obviously doesn`t work, neither does repeatedly telling the idiots to stop their crap. Every big game now - beyond disgusting. COME ON YE PARS! Reply |
| 23. Author: kelty_par Date: Fri 27th Sep 2024. 06:33 Can you imagine if Rangers or Celtic fans came out with stuff like "have the lineman move to the other side"? What a total lack of responsibility, lack of humility, lack of common sense. And yes, the linemen always run the same sides at all levels and in every country - England used to be different until fairly recently - and so referees who train to patrol "the diagonal" while their assistants watch the other corners of the pitch are drilled into knowing where their assistants will be in relation to their own position on the pitch. "Have the linesman move to the other side" - get that nonsense right into the bin and look at the actual issue ffs. Reply |
| 24. Author: GG Riva Date: Fri 27th Sep 2024. 06:48 Raymie the Legend, Fri 27 Sept 00:47 I tend to agree with Paralex. This is similar to victims of bullying at a school being advised to move to another school. The bullys feel empowered to carry out even more bullying. Referees are used to running in a diagonal that allows them to stay close to the part of the touchline not patrolled by an assistant. i.e. close to the NE and SW stands. It would be quite hard for refs to change a long established habit whenever they have a game at EEP. The problem needs to be addressed at its root cause.  Not your average Sunday League player. Post Edited (Fri 27 Sep 06:50) Reply |
| 25. Author: dafc-chris1 Date: Fri 27th Sep 2024. 07:41 The club need to close the stand Reply |
| 26. Author: GG Riva Date: Fri 27th Sep 2024. 07:47 dafc-chris1, Fri 27 Sept 07:41 For how long? With respect, that doesn`t really address the problem and it punishes everyone who likes to sit in the NW. Not your average Sunday League player. Reply |
| 27. Author: jake89 Date: Fri 27th Sep 2024. 08:03 Surely it depends? If immediate action is needed then closure is the only option? If it can continue a bit longer the solution would be to use the cameras to identify the "fans" and ban them. Reply |
| 28. Author: veteraneastender Date: Fri 27th Sep 2024. 08:34 SusieQ @ 06:27 and GG Riva @ 06:48 are on the money. Changing the linesmens patrol beat would be similar to re-arranging the deckchairs on the Titanic - and I doubt the SFA/SPFL would countenance such. As Jefrey alluded to @ 23:29 last night - it seems we have a bunch of wee neds who collude in an organised group to cause bother at certain matches. They are generally conspicious by their abscene at "normal" games from what I`ve noticed........with numerous empty seats in the NW. Reply |
| 29. Author: weemike Date: Fri 27th Sep 2024. 08:38 Close the stand while the club organises additional security measures/repairs the costs of which should be reflected in the season ticket price for next season. Maybe section off that portion of the stand and use the north east gate to access the other half of the North West up to the halfway line. If they wanna behave like they should at least pay the costs. Be it financial or otherwise. Reply |
| 30. Author: rikaka Date: Fri 27th Sep 2024. 08:50 They will need to invest in the CCTV some of the tech out there now used at football grounds is unreal. You`d have the culprits id no bother Reply |
| 31. Author: Wotsit Date: Fri 27th Sep 2024. 08:53 So the club should close the stand where hundreds of innocent people much prefer to sit because a few morons who go to a max of four games a season can`t behave, but moving the linesmen would be pandering? Surely the most sensible solution would be the one that impacts the fewest non-morons? The enemy travels by private jet, not by dinghy. Reply |
| 32. Author: RMGpar Date: Fri 27th Sep 2024. 09:03 Are the people saying close the stand from that stand? I have paid for 4 season tickets in this stand so I wont be moving stands. Close that section if it causes problems. Even my kids were asking why people throw things onto a pitch. Reply |
| 33. Author: Buster_Brown Date: Fri 27th Sep 2024. 09:03 As someone who has stood and subsequently sat "in the cage" since 1987 and cause no damage and never thrown anything onto the pitch, other than constructive criticism (haha), I really hope the club do not close the stand. I totally understand the position the club are in and I don`t like it, however punishing people like myself is not the answer. Although there are idiots within the section, it`s also easy to tarnish all with the same brush in a "fly with the craws get shot with the craws" scenario and again, that`s also not fair on the decent young lads that come along, get behind their team and provide a good advert for the club. The only way to deal with this properly is to identify the culprits and to issue fines and bans, so I hope the good people amongst the section, come forward with a couple of names and maybe do a bit of self policing. Fingers crossed anyway, but the answer isn`t simply "shutting the stand" imho. Reply |
| 34. Author: da_no_1 Date: Fri 27th Sep 2024. 09:09 Closing the stand will achieve nothing. Hopefully the club agree. "Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark" Reply |
| 35. Author: parsfan Date: Fri 27th Sep 2024. 09:23 If they shut the stand would they not just move 20 feet to the bottom corner of the Norrie and chuck stuff from there? Is the appetite for collective punishment strong enough to shut the whole ground? It`s the only way to be sure. How about they start stewarding it properly? Don`t let them stand three to a seat. Film them, yes CCTV can be expensive but there are much cheaper options. No face coverings. Hide your face, get thrown out. It`s not sold out this year, so stop public sale for the problem games. Hold up a TIFO-like obstruction infront of that section until it`s one person seat. Turn a hose on them. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The universe is ruled by chance and indifference  Reply |
| 36. Author: pars no1 Date: Fri 27th Sep 2024. 09:25 Im not sure who runs/organises the NW group. But they could be doing more on social media to help this. they are very good at drumming up support and asking for donations. but very little if any is mentioned about damaging your own stadium breaking laws ect. It always going to be a problem when you call yourself an "ultra" its like it gives folk a green light to be a thug. it is embarrassing seeing the TIFO paper being thrown on the pitch and floating about for the whole game. On the moving the linesman the areas of the pitch are astro turfed and if it is not the whole line then that`s an extra expense for the club to sort out. On the human side of it, how can you throw an item at a human being on purpose. Thankfully this thread has not had the idiots defending the section. maybe they are ashamed to be called out for their behaviour? Reply |
| 37. Author: weemike Date: Fri 27th Sep 2024. 09:36 The whole stand is not the problem. It is the section nearest the corner flag. They could close that section and allow the rest of the stand to come in via the North East gate. Sort our security/safety issues, make it safe standing, put netting up, etc. camera`s and reopen it as the designated ultras area. The costs of which will be reflected in the season ticket price for that area. While all this goes on. That section can be closed to give the ultras time to actually be organised and regulated. Or else we are just going to have the same issues arise 3 or 4 times a season. Reply |
| 38. Author: hudza Date: Fri 27th Sep 2024. 09:54 Good statement by the club but will be a matter of time before they shut it at this rate. Which is a shame as these guys generate a class atmosphere but it’s being undone by a minority of fuds. Reply |
| 39. Author: SusieQ Date: Fri 27th Sep 2024. 09:55 Not sure closing the section would solve the issue - they already moved from under the tv gantry so prob just move along the stand again. It is a shame for the fans who behave but at the end of the day, it IS now costing the club money, so something has to be done (the wee neds ain`t gonna pay up for their damage / fines) Edit - maybe as someone else suggested, they just don't sell NW walk up tickets for these games so the other fans aren't "punished" COME ON YE PARS! Post Edited (Fri 27 Sep 10:22) Reply |
| 40. Author: dafc Date: Fri 27th Sep 2024. 10:14 Any broken seat must be paid for by season ticket holder, sure it’s part of season ticket agreement? Obviously so self policing goes on to identify such culprits but hopefully CCTV can. Shame to close it for a likely a few individuals, but responsibility does lie with the majority to sort it, or authorities will. Reply |
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