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| 41. Author: AdamAntsParsStripe Date: Fri 27th Sep 2024. 10:18 SusieQ, Fri 27 Sep 09:55 When they move to the Norrie and do it all over again (as happened last time NW was shut) will you be calling for the whole of the Norrie to be shut down also? Zwei Pints Bier und ein Päckchen Chips bitte  Reply |
| 42. Author: Westies squint kicks Date: Fri 27th Sep 2024. 10:23 An excellent well considered statement from the club with the right tone. I really hope this is a kick up the erse for those out of line because undoubtedly when they behave they create a great atmosphere. Reply |
| 43. Author: SusieQ Date: Fri 27th Sep 2024. 10:27 Pretty hard to hit the linesman from the Norrie, I`d think lol. Same old tired excuses AAPS - what`s the answer? It can`t continue. It happens every single "big" game now - then we get told it`s not Pars fans. It was a sold out ST stand last year, so who is it exactly?!! Not selling walk up tickets / closing the stand for certain games / permanently are the only answers as nothing else seems to get through to the idiots, minority or not! Innocent fans are impacted of course, but surely even they don`t want the club wasting money on repairs and fines when we`re skint as it is!! COME ON YE PARS! Post Edited (Fri 27 Sep 10:28) Reply |
| 44. Author: Socks Date: Fri 27th Sep 2024. 10:33 So closing one section doesn`t make sense because they`ll move elsewhere, but closing the whole stand and have them move elsewhere does make sense? That`s not really logical. I`m annoyed at both the wee fannies causing the problems and the club`s response. If they just stopped chucking stuff at the linesman and opposing players, there would be far less of an issue. It`s not on, at all. However, the club and Police have not handled this well over the years. At every game with a bigger crowd, it`s an absolute joke getting into the NW. Two turnstiles, nobody managing the queue. Friday night games are particularly bad as you always get loads of wee kids totally out of it on drink or whatever else. You get loads of wee fannies trying to skip the queue, nobody is there to control it. Nobody is there to challenge folk who are out of it and who should not be allowed into the ground in the first place. Police often stand by watching all this happen and do nothing. Under 12s are not meant to be allowed in without an adult, but they always are. It all just adds to the feeling that folk can do whatevef they want. I`ve said before that unstaffed turnstiles are pointless, and this is another reason why. The one steward standing outside the turnstile can`t really do anything on their own and I don`t fault them at all. I also don`t understand why it`s so difficult to identify those chucking stuff on the park. If the CCTV isn`t good enough to do that, then it really isn`t fit for purpose. Imaging technology has generally come down in price and far more capable than it used to - is CCTV really that expensive? Is it more expensive than the cost of repairing last week`s damage? I`m entitled to be critical of the club and police, but the folk causing the problems should not feel that it isn`t their fault. It is. Just stop chucking stuff on the park and, if you can`t do that, just don`t go. If you are someone who does this, just stop being a wee fanny. I`ve been going in the NW since before these folk were born with the exception of the season we got chucked out of there when we were last in the SPL. That season just about finished me as a fan and I really do not want to have that again. Sadly however, it seems like a matter of time. Reply |
| 45. Author: Dave_1885 Date: Fri 27th Sep 2024. 10:41 Can the club suspend season tickets? If so, maybe thats the approach to take? Suspend the STs for the section/sections, for a game v Rovers/Falkirk, then allow them back post this? Will help two fold - weeds out any wee @rseholes that do have an ST in that section but will also encourage any non complicit ST holder in there to actually speak up and name and shame culprits. One of the big issues these days is the whole “snitches get stitches” and “grassing” culture where nobody will name them in fear of retribution. Also, need to go back to the days of large police presence at these games I think. On a side note, with the Health Secretary pushing for the return of alcohol to Scottish grounds, I cant see us being involved until this all stops. Reply |
| 46. Author: da_no_1 Date: Fri 27th Sep 2024. 10:46 How much would a good quality CCTV system cost? If the club can`t/won`t pay for the upgrade in either that or the increased security costs maybe Section NW could organise a crowdfund rather than the TIFO for a few games. It does look like this is only going to end one way so anything we as supporters can do might be the only way to avert it. Just a thought. "Some days will stay a 1000 years, some pass like the flash of a spark" Reply |
| 47. Author: SeasonedPar Date: Fri 27th Sep 2024. 10:50 Very considered but also very sad the club needs to put out a statement like that. On the day it’s announced 94% of staff in Fife schools have been physically or verbally - or both - assaulted, this is clearly a wider societal problem. However. The anger at these “wee fannies” on this thread is real and a lot of sense talked by GG, Socks, etc. What a reputation for Pars fans! This will be in the media, and takes a bit of the shine of what was a great night for the club. Solutions cost money, money better spent on players wages. There’s some decent suggestions made here, and the club will do well to consider them all. Increase in stewarding and police, stewards enforcing sitting in the seat your ticket is for, no walk up sales - and no entry to the NW unless season ticket holder - better CCTV, warning signs to reinforce the letter, but most of all the majority of decent fans refusing to accept moronic behaviour and self policing to weed out what’s clearly not genuine Pars fans. Rant over. Post Edited (Fri 27 Sep 10:56) Reply |
| 48. Author: doctordandruff Date: Fri 27th Sep 2024. 11:12 Having netting up like they have in Europe would stop it, but not sure if that`s allowed here due to the post-hillsborough laws Reply |
| 49. Author: red-star-par Date: Fri 27th Sep 2024. 11:22 RMGpar, Fri 27 Sept 09:03 Aye you will Reply |
| 50. Author: FRED1981 Date: Fri 27th Sep 2024. 11:27 I know it shouldn’t happen but to help the problem get the linesman to run the north east line . F muller Reply |
| 51. Author: Rigger Al Date: Fri 27th Sep 2024. 11:35 Socks, Fri 27 Sep 10:33 Socks, Some very good valid points there . A valid statement from the club,but they also have to be responsible and have a Duty of care /Safety for supporters in their stadium. Unfortunatly due to the circumstances carried out by a small group of fans the club needs to take the corrective measures to manage this at the entrance ,If anyone is under the influence or not meeting the rules as mentioned under 12 on their own.Stop it there . The atmosphere created by the lads is amazing but this should not give the green light to damage our clubs property or endanger fans ,players and officials Reply |
| 52. Author: wee eck Date: Fri 27th Sep 2024. 11:37 Any `solution` that punishes innocent bystanders rather than the culprits should be avoided in my opinion. I wonder if this recurring issue is a contributory factor in the German investors` decision to move on? It`s all depressingly predictable that a minority will spoil things for the vast majority who behave themselves. Why is the club statement not on COWS, by the way? Reply |
| 53. Author: weemike Date: Fri 27th Sep 2024. 11:45 We have to work with the ultras as they bring atmosphere, and if we don`t, we will just alienate them and push them away. They need their own official designated area designed for them. They also need representation and made aware of the costs of unacceptable behaviour. We are just going to go round in circles, fines, closures, bans, etc. There is a happy medium for all concerned. What it is I don`t know. Reply |
| 54. Author: P Date: Fri 27th Sep 2024. 11:46 As has already been said ST holders should be held to account for damage to their seats, might focus their mind on shifting folk out of them and not encouraging their mates to squeeze in Ban TIFO’s for the time being as it is just ammunition for getting lobbed forward, it might just be paper but it’s shows they can’t be trusted Hanging a net from the stand roof for that section cannot be expensive even to do so in a safe way to meet any safety requirements. Allocate more Steward resource to that area which needs it and less to areas that don’t need it. And keep the stand open Reply |
| 55. Author: cammypar 1995 Date: Fri 27th Sep 2024. 11:46 You can see the end is only rammed when we play our rivals. If people can`t behave and damage our own stadium someone must know who they are and have to be held accountable. David cook said at a previous supporters meeting that the section could be closed if they keep causing bother. c'mon the pars Reply |
| 56. Author: cammypar 1995 Date: Fri 27th Sep 2024. 11:47 P, Fri 27 Sept 11:46 All of which costs the club money. It`s not hard to go the football and not behave like a moron. c'mon the pars Reply |
| 57. Author: Wotsit Date: Fri 27th Sep 2024. 12:14 There are posts on this thread where folk are saying that they can`t get near their ST seat on bigger match days. Are we really suggesting that they be fined if the fandan who stole their seat breaks it? The enemy travels by private jet, not by dinghy. Reply |
| 58. Author: P Date: Fri 27th Sep 2024. 12:27 Wotsit, Fri 27 Sep 12:14 I have never found it difficult asking folk to get out of my seat and it doesn’t seem a problem to do so anywhere else. Increased stewards in the area would help enforce it. If it’s a bigger game I would expect most ST holders to be there to move on said fandan who might damage the seat. Beats standing back and getting the stand closed no? Let’s not kid ourselves on here either, it’s not the Maracanã in its heyday we are talking about, it’s a tiny wee section of a very small stand with a few of fandans where the majority not only tolerate but encourage them by giggling like schoolgirls while they are behaving as they do On stewarding cost the club must have some burden of responsibility for H&S around selling tickets to fill a seating area and not allowing excess of that capacity Post Edited (Fri 27 Sep 12:37) Reply |
| 59. Author: P Date: Fri 27th Sep 2024. 12:27 cammypar 1995, Fri 27 Sep 11:47 It clearly is for that area as none of this is even remotely new news Reply |
| 60. Author: buffy Date: Fri 27th Sep 2024. 12:34 I think Stenny play behind netting? ”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019” Reply |
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