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Topic: Highlights Partick Thistle + Neil Lennon + Charlie Gilmour
21. Author:  1985Par        
Date: Mon 29th Sep 2025. 14:46

Thought at the time that their opener was poor defending - having seen the highlights Tod does well to win the ball in the air from a speculative cross. Unlucky for us the ball broke to the feet of their player who took it well. Second goal, great strike, fair play. We`re 2 down without really having done much wrong. Kane should have had a penalty and we`re back in it. Caceras sending off unfortunate in my book. Clearly gets pulled, instinctively turns round to square up to a guy who`s face is already in his face and there`s contact. Down to 10 men it`s pretty much game over.



Post Edited (Mon 29 Sep 14:48)

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22. Author:  PARrot        
Date: Mon 29th Sep 2025. 17:59

1985Par, Mon 29 Sept 14:46

Thought at the time that their opener was poor defending - having seen the highlights Tod does well to win the ball in the air from a speculative cross. Unlucky for us the ball broke to the feet of their player who took it well. Second goal, great strike, fair play. We`re 2 down without really having done much wrong. Kane should have had a penalty and we`re back in it. Caceras sending off unfortunate in my book. Clearly gets pulled, instinctively turns round to square up to a guy who`s face is already in his face and there`s contact. Down to 10 men it`s pretty much game over.



Good summary.
I was also thinking Tod did not deliberately head across goals. He won a difficult challenge, but the ball broke badly.

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23. Author:  Jeffery        
Date: Mon 29th Sep 2025. 19:06

The movement on the ball for their second is like punting a Shoot 5 in a gale. Not surprised the keeper missed it.

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24. Author:  MinnesotaAndy        
Date: Tue 30th Sep 2025. 10:04

On COWS, in the article "Charlie Gilmour rues missed chances", there is a pic that shows Cáceres on the receiving end of a pull with both hands.



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25. Author:  onandupthepars        
Date: Tue 30th Sep 2025. 10:43

Thanks for that Minnesota



Quote:

When asked about Cáceres’ dismissal for lashing out at Dan O’Reilly, Charlie was quick to defend his colleague: “Jeff’s my guy, and I’ll always back Jeff, and he’s been class ever since he’s come in. So, he’ll just have to swallow this one, then I’m sure he’ll come back and he’ll help positively. He’s disappointed, just like us all, he’ll be more frustrated than all of us, I can tell you that.”

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I coudn`t see no lashing out on the highlights, but I accept that Charlie will know better than me. And I`m glad he said he`ll always back Jeff, because I didn`t want Jeff to get peed off just because he got angry wi a thug, who btw got off scot free when he should have been booked and the free kick should have gone to us.



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26. Author:  Westies squint kicks        
Date: Tue 30th Sep 2025. 10:58

onandupthepars wrote:

> Thanks for that Minnesota
>
>
>
> Quote:
>
> When asked about Cáceres’ dismissal for lashing out at Dan
> O’Reilly, Charlie was quick to defend his colleague:
> “Jeff’s my guy, and I’ll always back Jeff, and he’s
> been class ever since he’s come in. So, he’ll just have to
> swallow this one, then I’m sure he’ll come back and he’ll
> help positively. He’s disappointed, just like us all, he’ll
> be more frustrated than all of us, I can tell you that.”
>
> ---------------------------------
>
> I coudn`t see no lashing out on the highlights, but I accept
> that Charlie will know better than me. And I`m glad he said
> he`ll always back Jeff, because I didn`t want Jeff to get peed
> off just because he got angry wi a thug, who btw got off scot
> free when he should have been booked and the free kick should
> have gone to us.
>
>
>
> Post Edited (Tue 30 Sep 10:44)

He`s stuck the head on the Partick player, YouTube allows you to slow the video down to quarter speed if you`re still struggling.



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27. Author:  Bandy        
Date: Tue 30th Sep 2025. 11:15

Whether or not Caceres deserved to be sent off he was completely `done` by O`Reilly`s gamemanship/sh*thousery.

Same as JCM v Ayr where the Ayr players overreactions convinced the ref to give a booking for something that wasn`t even a definitive foul.

Maybe we`re a bit naive in giving the opportunity, but equally, if JCM hadn`t gone in for the ball there people on here would be giving him pelters for not being `strong enough` or not `wanting it` enough.

Right now, there`s no consequence for sh*thousery, it`s all upside for those that engage in it. If it works they get a decision, if it doesn`t nothing happens. Reminds me of kids tennis tournaments where kids are incentivised to make dodgy line calls - they win a point if it goes well, and even if they get caught there`s no consequence other than losing a point they`d already lost.

Ref`s just need to be better.



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28. Author:  onandupthepars        
Date: Tue 30th Sep 2025. 12:43

Ref: Westies

"He`s stuck the head on the Partick player, YouTube allows you to slow the video down to quarter speed"

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Could you give a link for that Westies?



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29. Author:  Westies squint kicks        
Date: Tue 30th Sep 2025. 14:20

onandupthepars wrote:

> Ref: Westies
>
> "He`s stuck the head on the Partick player, YouTube allows you
> to slow the video down to quarter speed"
>
> ----------------
>
> Could you give a link for that Westies?
>
>

Top of the thread, bottom right corner for playback speed setting.



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30. Author:  thebear        
Date: Tue 30th Sep 2025. 14:40

Caceras sending off is a joke, possibly a yellow, but two of their players should gave been booked due to their response
Very sad that pro players play act like this, meaning it costs money to the player and the club for play acting

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31. Author:  onandupthepars        
Date: Tue 30th Sep 2025. 17:59

Thanks for that info Westies.

If there are any others who are only at basic level with techie stuff and who didn`t know about that slow-mo function and would like to check what appears to be pretty conclusive evidence, I`ll try and give the procedure step by step:

1. Go to the (Youtube) highlights as posted by Brian in the OP of this thread.

2. Go to 7.38 in the highlights and pause it.

3. Click the cog (/settings) symbol at bottom right of the screen.

4. Look for the arrow to the right of `playback speed` and click it.

5. Click 0.25 for the slowest playback speed.

6. Watch from 7.38 to the moment of head to head contact at 7.41.

After watching it several times I think Jeff springs back towards the jags man, and makes head to head contact. If you look very carefully, it appears to me that, after that contact the Jags man stands for a split second - hesitating for a moment as if he thinks about retaliating - then falls backwards holding his face.


I agree with Bandy, Tue 30 Sep 11:15, quote:

`Whether or not Caceres deserved to be sent off he was completely `done` by O`Reilly`s gamemanship/sh*thousery.

Same as JCM v Ayr where the Ayr players overreactions convinced the ref to give a booking for something that wasn`t even a definitive foul...

Right now, there`s no consequence for sh*thousery, it`s all upside for those that engage in it. If it works they get a decision, if it doesn`t nothing happens. Reminds me of kids tennis tournaments where kids are incentivised to make dodgy line calls - they win a point if it goes well, and even if they get caught there`s no consequence other than losing a point they`d already lost.

Ref`s just need to be better.`



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32. Author:  onandupthepars        
Date: Tue 30th Sep 2025. 18:19

And is it not a wee bit telling that no-one - not even any Jags players, nor officials - are the least bit interested in the Jags player who is lying face down, motionless faking a serious head injury, or even instant death!
They all walk past him, ignoring him completely for 15 seconds or more, and while they`re all busy sticking the knife in Jeff, the faking jag rolls over face up, but noticing that everybody`s about to move back in his direction, he rolls over again to resume his face down `dead` position.
Then one of his mates bends down and taps him on the shoulder as if to say, it`s alright, he`s off, you can get up now.

Post Edited (Tue 30 Sep 18:38)

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33. Author:  wee eck        
Date: Tue 30th Sep 2025. 18:51

I`d say football has always penalised retaliation more severely than the provocation, which, to some extent, condones the initial bad behaviour.

Post Edited (Tue 30 Sep 18:53)

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34. Author:  onandupthepars        
Date: Tue 30th Sep 2025. 19:44

Bring in the sin bin! Half an hour in the bin for Daniel O`Reilly would not have been harsh.



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35. Author:  JTH123        
Date: Tue 30th Sep 2025. 20:00

wee eck, Tue 30 Sep 18:51

I`d say football has always penalised retaliation more severely than the provocation, which, to some extent, condones the initial bad behaviour.


Correct. We need to be smarter.

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36. Author:  Bandy        
Date: Tue 30th Sep 2025. 21:21

It`s not condoned. It`s encouraged and rewarded, with absolutely no risk to the initiator.



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37. Author:  we won the cup in 68        
Date: Wed 1st Oct 2025. 14:29

What happened to the picture GJS93 posted of Kane’s shirt being pulled?



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38. Author:  jake89        
Date: Wed 1st Oct 2025. 14:30

we won the cup in 68, Wed 1 Oct 14:29

What happened to the picture GJS93 posted of Kane’s shirt being pulled?


Partick fans not seeing the irony of not getting a penalty last night when the same thing happened to one of their players 🤦‍♂️

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39. Author:  we won the cup in 68        
Date: Wed 1st Oct 2025. 14:36

That’s exactly why I was looking for it!



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40. Author:  GG Riva        
Date: Wed 1st Oct 2025. 15:29

wee eck, Tue 30 Sept 18:51

I`d say football has always penalised retaliation more severely than the provocation, which, to some extent, condones the initial bad behaviour.


Correct, wee Eck. How many times was the late, great Alex Edwards sent off for retaliation? And how many times were his opponents dismissed at the same time?

Once, if memory serves. Maybe you can name him?



Not your average Sunday League player.


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