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| 21. Author: veteraneastender Date: Fri 7th Feb 2025. 13:44 Once again, please correct me if mistaken - but were there not some child deaths in another hospital where she had worked ? The report of course being she might be implicated ? Post Edited (Fri 07 Feb 13:45) Reply |
| 22. Author: DBP Date: Fri 7th Feb 2025. 16:40 I’m guessing there’s child deaths in every maternity hospital given how premature some babies are delivered and incubated Post Edited (Fri 07 Feb 17:06) Reply |
| 23. Author: ipswichpar Date: Fri 7th Feb 2025. 17:43 Indeed that is unfortunately the case. But I have the same recollection as vee. ETA....just rewatched the Panorama from Oct 24...it was Liverpool Woman's Hopsital where there were incidents on around one third of the cases where Letby was working. Hopefully concluding that analysis will help. Post Edited (Fri 07 Feb 18:46) Reply |
| 24. Author: PARrot Date: Fri 7th Feb 2025. 21:44 It`s all just too horrible. If she is guilty she needs to be punished, but if not, she must be in a living hell. Same for her family. I think we have to allow her to be innocent until it is conclusively proven she is guilty.  Reply |
| 25. Author: buffy Date: Fri 7th Feb 2025. 21:46 She was found guilty hence why she’s in prison. She’s had two appeals which were rejected. ”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019” Reply |
| 26. Author: P Date: Fri 7th Feb 2025. 21:52 PARrot, Fri 7 Feb 21:44 What a weird statement, she’s in jail because she was conclusively proven as being guilty. She is now guilty until it’s proven to be a miscarriage of justice. Prisons are full of people who would tell you they didn’t do it. Reply |
| 27. Author: veteraneastender Date: Fri 7th Feb 2025. 23:13 She was innocent, that ship sailed following her being found guilty. Two appeals failing to overturn the original verdict. Our legal system is not infallible, however you have to think it`s competent when it comes to returning a "three strike count" finding against her. Post Edited (Fri 07 Feb 23:14) Reply |
| 28. Author: PARrot Date: Sat 8th Feb 2025. 01:18 P, Fri 7 Feb 21:52 I don`t think it is weird. From the comments made here by others, there seems to be considerable doubt. I have to admit that I haven`t the time to read all about it in depth, but if there are grounds for an appeal, there is doubt. I don`t know the girl. If she is guilty, I hope she pays the price. If she is innocent, I hope they can prove it to an extent that the stigma is lifted and greaving relatives don`t feel that she got off with it. Personally, I hope she is innocent. Not found innocent but truly innocent. Reply |
| 29. Author: ipswichpar Date: Sat 8th Feb 2025. 07:55 The Panorama programme is 30 minutes well spent. The shift list, concerns about behaviour at another hospital, not having their own medical expert at trial and unconvincing evidence given by Letby herself all seem rather strange. Her new barrister does come across as someone who has massive doubts but without a hugely robust case to justify that. I`m not sure how much he has been involved in the two failed appeals. I just wish the original case hasn`t focused only on the 24 cases she was on duty. That wasn`t the right approach in my opinion. Reply |
| 30. Author: P Date: Sat 8th Feb 2025. 09:23 PARrot, Sat 8 Feb 01:18 Oh well the .net massive think there is doubt, no case to answer m’lud throw open the doors and let someone who found in court to be (whats that word again - ah yes) ‘guilty’ out. I’m not dismissing any further investigation btw just pointing out you cannot say someone who has literally been found guilty is innocent until otherwise proven 😂 Reply |
| 31. Author: PARrot Date: Sat 8th Feb 2025. 11:42 P, Sat 8 Feb 09:23 I`m trying to figure out what your emoji is intended to achieve. Comes over a tad smug. It isn`t the ".net massive" as you so graciously refer to some people who I believe are reasonably intelligent. Possibly more so than your good self, although I don`t know you personally. Maybe you are the superior contributor that you appear to think you are. Those that you deride are only commenting on the findings of a panel of experts who found no medical evidence to justify a conviction. It also would appear, from what I have found time to peruse, that there have not been two failed appeals. There have been two attempted appeals that were not granted. It`s not the same thing. I may be wrong there. Feel free to correct me, but please try not to be so smug. Nobody appreciates that. Reply |
| 32. Author: buffy Date: Sat 8th Feb 2025. 12:15 Parrot a panel of experts at the time found her guilty. If we were to allow every expert on the planet access to an accused person’s casework then there would be no end. There is a limit on how many experts can be allowed - and mostly because of financial restrictions. If there has been a miscarriage of justice in this case then it will be brought forth. ”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019” Reply |
| 33. Author: Dave_1885 Date: Sat 8th Feb 2025. 13:17 The panel of experts that now think she is innocent were nowhere to be seen to defend her at her first trial. There was another group of experts, colleagues, lawyers and jury members that were that found her overwhelmingly guilty. Which she currently is. If we listened to every experts opinion then vaccines would never exist, the economy would be booming and the Earth would be flat…..or have ended 20 years ago! Reply |
| 34. Author: Milos Drizzle Date: Sat 8th Feb 2025. 14:18 Being found guilty in a court of law does not make one guilty in the general sense of that word, especially civil courts that seem very susceptible to miscarriages. This case of course had a proper trial, but I hope justice prevails here, whatever that means for the accused. This is my signature Post Edited (Sat 08 Feb 14:18) Reply |
| 35. Author: sadindiefreak Date: Sat 8th Feb 2025. 15:00 veteraneastender, Fri 7 Feb 23:13 She`s not had any appeals. She had applications for an appeal declined. These are completely different things. Reply |
| 36. Author: PARrot Date: Sat 8th Feb 2025. 15:35 sadindiefreak, Sat 8 Feb 15:00 That`s what I said earlier Sif It`s interesting how people read situations differently. Some of us can be very judgmental. In my mind, from what I have read so far. She is more likely to be guilty in most folks eyes, but there is significant doubt. I`m just saying I hope she is not guilty. Reply |
| 37. Author: LochgellyAlbert Date: Sat 8th Feb 2025. 17:50 This is what I had read:- [url]https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/feb/07/strong-reasonable-doubt-over-lucy-letby-insulin-convictions-experts-say[/url] Reply |
| 38. Author: veteraneastender Date: Sat 8th Feb 2025. 18:28 The article states that she killed 7 babies and attempted to kill 7 others - including two of the latter being attributed to insulin injections. "The former nurse, now 35, is serving 15 whole-life prison terms after being convicted of murdering seven babies and attempting to kill seven others – including trying to murder two by insulin overdoses – at the Countess of Chester hospital in north-west England." So, even if she is found not guilty of the attempted insulin deaths she stands convicted on the other counts. Or are they also being challenged ? Post Edited (Sat 08 Feb 18:30) Reply |
| 39. Author: veteraneastender Date: Sat 8th Feb 2025. 19:01 sadindiefreak, Sat 8 Feb 15:00 Indeed. Obviously the appeal judges twice found insufficient grounds to justify further action. Reply |
| 40. Author: Dave_1885 Date: Sat 8th Feb 2025. 20:47 The people that are siding with her being “innocent” now - do they also believe Luke Mitchell, Jodi Jones murderer, is also innocent because he has claimed it for the last 20 years? 🤔 seen he has also put in an appeal against the parole board recently regarding his application being mishandled. Reply |
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