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41. Author:  wee eck        
Date: Sun 22nd Feb 2026. 14:57

What have England got to do with it? One of the criticisms of GT is that he can only motivate the players for the England game and now you`re comparing his results with theirs.

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42. Author:  Buspasspar        
Date: Sun 22nd Feb 2026. 18:29

We forget in our criticism that we are a wee Country :-

England has 1,900 rugby union clubs. 6,060 referees. 362,319 pre-teen male players. 698,803 teen male players. 121,480 senior male players (total male players 1,182,602)

Scotland has 241 rugby union clubs. 343 referees. 7,556 pre-teen male players. 13,402 teen male players. 10,556 senior male players (total male players 31,514)

We are forever shaped by the Children we once were


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43. Author:  NMCmassive        
Date: Sun 22nd Feb 2026. 19:58

If you can’t understand how not being as successful as the team who’s being finishing 3rd or 4th since the time GT started is anything to do with it-you’ll never know.

COYP

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44. Author:  NMCmassive        
Date: Sun 22nd Feb 2026. 20:00

Buspasspar, Sun 22 Feb 18:29

We forget in our criticism that we are a wee Country :-

England has 1,900 rugby union clubs. 6,060 referees. 362,319 pre-teen male players. 698,803 teen male players. 121,480 senior male players (total male players 1,182,602)

Scotland has 241 rugby union clubs. 343 referees. 7,556 pre-teen male players. 13,402 teen male players. 10,556 senior male players (total male players 31,514)


Now do the number for Ireland and Wales…

COYP

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45. Author:  Buspasspar        
Date: Sun 22nd Feb 2026. 20:07

NMC I could not give a rats erse about those statistics I was comparing your hard on for England against G T`S Scotland

We are forever shaped by the Children we once were


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46. Author:  NMCmassive        
Date: Sun 22nd Feb 2026. 22:15

Buspasspar, Sun 22 Feb 20:07

NMC I could not give a rats erse about those statistics I was comparing your hard on for England against G T`S Scotland


We’re similar sized nations to Ireland and Wales so wouldn’t that be a better comparison? No? Given that Wales and Ireland have won the 6 nations during Gregor Townsends tenure, while we’ve had the squad of players we’ve got-surely the question has to be asked why we haven’t progressed further than 3rd place? We’ve finished 3rd twice btw. We finished 5th once and 4th the rest of the time. Pretty dreadful given the talent he has at his disposal.

COYP

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47. Author:  widtink        
Date: Sun 22nd Feb 2026. 22:36

How many clubs do Scotland have to pick players from?
2 , that`s it ....apart from the likes of Finn and a few others plyng their trade in different countries.
The Scottish RFU cannot ( or maybe will not would be more apt) financially support more than 2 fully professional teams .
Dave Cherry for example is currently playing for Vannes in the French pro division 2.
Ireland have 4
Wales have 4 (soon to be reduced to 3)
Italy have 2
France have 14 to pick from.
England have 24 to pick from (kind of ) 10 are top tier with 14 of the other clubs being in the second tier (championship).
These players however are mainly picked for the English A side which is a gateway for future first team selection apparently.
Even if you take the championship teams out of the equation they still have 10 teams to pick from.
So to me the question should be , "why are England so bad right now"?
And more importantly.... Do we care ?
I for one am loving seeing them underperforming 😂

Admin


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48. Author:  Dave_1885        
Date: Mon 23rd Feb 2026. 00:53

widtink, Sun 22 Feb 22:36

How many clubs do Scotland have to pick players from?
2 , that`s it ....apart from the likes of Finn and a few others plyng their trade in different countries.
The Scottish RFU cannot ( or maybe will not would be more apt) financially support more than 2 fully professional teams .
Dave Cherry for example is currently playing for Vannes in the French pro division 2.
Ireland have 4
Wales have 4 (soon to be reduced to 3)
Italy have 2
France have 14 to pick from.
England have 24 to pick from (kind of ) 10 are top tier with 14 of the other clubs being in the second tier (championship).
These players however are mainly picked for the English A side which is a gateway for future first team selection apparently.
Even if you take the championship teams out of the equation they still have 10 teams to pick from.
So to me the question should be , "why are England so bad right now"?
And more importantly.... Do we care ?
I for one am loving seeing them underperforming 😂


We don’t have 2 to pick from though………our players can go off and play in any team in the world and can be selected for the national side. Unlike England, who only select from English teams.

Townshend has never beaten Ireland and has a losing a record v Wales and France. His win percentage is propped up by beating England and a host of tier 2 nations.

9 years in post now, its not good enough for the players he has had at his disposal.

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49. Author:  PARrot        
Date: Mon 23rd Feb 2026. 01:10

Dave_1885, Mon 23 Feb 00:53

widtink, Sun 22 Feb 22:36

How many clubs do Scotland have to pick players from?
2 , that`s it ....apart from the likes of Finn and a few others plyng their trade in different countries.
The Scottish RFU cannot ( or maybe will not would be more apt) financially support more than 2 fully professional teams .
Dave Cherry for example is currently playing for Vannes in the French pro division 2.
Ireland have 4
Wales have 4 (soon to be reduced to 3)
Italy have 2
France have 14 to pick from.
England have 24 to pick from (kind of ) 10 are top tier with 14 of the other clubs being in the second tier (championship).
These players however are mainly picked for the English A side which is a gateway for future first team selection apparently.
Even if you take the championship teams out of the equation they still have 10 teams to pick from.
So to me the question should be , "why are England so bad right now"?
And more importantly.... Do we care ?
I for one am loving seeing them underperforming 😂


We don’t have 2 to pick from though………our players can go off and play in any team in the world and can be selected for the national side. Unlike England, who only select from English teams.

Townshend has never beaten Ireland and has a losing a record v Wales and France. His win percentage is propped up by beating England and a host of tier 2 nations.

9 years in post now, its not good enough for the players he has had at his disposal.


A losing record v Wales?
Over the last 9 years we have won 6 and lost 3. We won the last 4 in a row.
6 wins and a draw v England who only won 2 out the last 9.
Ireland have had an even better golden era than us and France are France always a great team.
Italy is the inexplicable bogey team.
Another coach may have averted some defeats there but would he have done so well against England?

Some folk just have a fettish about sacking managers.

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50. Author:  Dave_1885        
Date: Mon 23rd Feb 2026. 10:15

PARrot, Mon 23 Feb 01:10

Dave_1885, Mon 23 Feb 00:53

widtink, Sun 22 Feb 22:36

How many clubs do Scotland have to pick players from?
2 , that`s it ....apart from the likes of Finn and a few others plyng their trade in different countries.
The Scottish RFU cannot ( or maybe will not would be more apt) financially support more than 2 fully professional teams .
Dave Cherry for example is currently playing for Vannes in the French pro division 2.
Ireland have 4
Wales have 4 (soon to be reduced to 3)
Italy have 2
France have 14 to pick from.
England have 24 to pick from (kind of ) 10 are top tier with 14 of the other clubs being in the second tier (championship).
These players however are mainly picked for the English A side which is a gateway for future first team selection apparently.
Even if you take the championship teams out of the equation they still have 10 teams to pick from.
So to me the question should be , "why are England so bad right now"?
And more importantly.... Do we care ?
I for one am loving seeing them underperforming 😂


We don’t have 2 to pick from though………our players can go off and play in any team in the world and can be selected for the national side. Unlike England, who only select from English teams.

Townshend has never beaten Ireland and has a losing a record v Wales and France. His win percentage is propped up by beating England and a host of tier 2 nations.

9 years in post now, its not good enough for the players he has had at his disposal.


A losing record v Wales?
Over the last 9 years we have won 6 and lost 3. We won the last 4 in a row.
6 wins and a draw v England who only won 2 out the last 9.
Ireland have had an even better golden era than us and France are France always a great team.
Italy is the inexplicable bogey team.
Another coach may have averted some defeats there but would he have done so well against England?

Some folk just have a fettish about sacking managers.


He has a level record with Wales now - won 5, lost 5……
Italy our bogey team? He’s lost twice against them ffs - hardly bogeys……
We can beat England 6 times, but we cant beat Ireland just once? Come on now…..

You say some folk have a fettish for sacking managers, maybe folk are just fed up of mediocracy and under achievement…..

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51. Author:  wee eck        
Date: Mon 23rd Feb 2026. 10:24

Imagine the reaction if Steve Clarke`s win percentage as international football manager was skewed by a disproportionate number of wins against England!

Does Townsend really have a `golden generation` of players at his disposal? We certainly have some of the most exciting backs in the world but are our forwards any better than average? They haven`t dominated in any of the matches so far in this season`s 6 Nations.

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52. Author:  PARrot        
Date: Tue 24th Feb 2026. 04:23

Dave_1885, Mon 23 Feb 10:15

PARrot, Mon 23 Feb 01:10

Dave_1885, Mon 23 Feb 00:53

widtink, Sun 22 Feb 22:36

How many clubs do Scotland have to pick players from?
2 , that`s it ....apart from the likes of Finn and a few others plyng their trade in different countries.
The Scottish RFU cannot ( or maybe will not would be more apt) financially support more than 2 fully professional teams .
Dave Cherry for example is currently playing for Vannes in the French pro division 2.
Ireland have 4
Wales have 4 (soon to be reduced to 3)
Italy have 2
France have 14 to pick from.
England have 24 to pick from (kind of ) 10 are top tier with 14 of the other clubs being in the second tier (championship).
These players however are mainly picked for the English A side which is a gateway for future first team selection apparently.
Even if you take the championship teams out of the equation they still have 10 teams to pick from.
So to me the question should be , "why are England so bad right now"?
And more importantly.... Do we care ?
I for one am loving seeing them underperforming 😂


We don’t have 2 to pick from though………our players can go off and play in any team in the world and can be selected for the national side. Unlike England, who only select from English teams.

Townshend has never beaten Ireland and has a losing a record v Wales and France. His win percentage is propped up by beating England and a host of tier 2 nations.

9 years in post now, its not good enough for the players he has had at his disposal.


A losing record v Wales?
Over the last 9 years we have won 6 and lost 3. We won the last 4 in a row.
6 wins and a draw v England who only won 2 out the last 9.
Ireland have had an even better golden era than us and France are France always a great team.
Italy is the inexplicable bogey team.
Another coach may have averted some defeats there but would he have done so well against England?

Some folk just have a fettish about sacking managers.


He has a level record with Wales now - won 5, lost 5……
Italy our bogey team? He’s lost twice against them ffs - hardly bogeys……
We can beat England 6 times, but we cant beat Ireland just once? Come on now…..

You say some folk have a fettish for sacking managers, maybe folk are just fed up of mediocracy and under achievement…..


We have won 6 lost 4.
Ireland have been one of the top teams in the world for some time now. I think the bubble may have burst though.

Out of the 6 wins v Wales, 4 of them are the last 4 matches.
It`s really just France and Ireland that have been stopping us.
No shame there.
We did well v the All blacks and Australia too.

I think we were 4th in the world rankings before the world cup that paired us with Ireland and South Africa. Ireland were a top side then. England Wales and France got easy rides with double ranking points. We dropped a bit due to that draw.

Mediocrity my arse.

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53. Author:  NMCmassive        
Date: Tue 24th Feb 2026. 12:16

It’s the not winning things and constantly falling short that’s the problem. Folk in here arguing 4th place is acceptable 🤷🏻‍♂️🤣

COYP

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54. Author:  PARrot        
Date: Tue 24th Feb 2026. 12:26

NMCmassive, Tue 24 Feb 12:16

It’s the not winning things and constantly falling short that’s the problem. Folk in here arguing 4th place is acceptable 🤷🏻‍♂️🤣


With our squad v the recent French and Irish squads I would hope third.
Well I`d hope for 3rd but given the resources of England 4th is no shame.
It`s just tough that when we have had such a good squad, they have been even better

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55. Author:  StevenPar77        
Date: Tue 24th Feb 2026. 19:02

I know it probably goes against the whole point of the 6 Nations but it needs a relegation/promotion in my opinion.

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56. Author:  PARrot        
Date: Wed 25th Feb 2026. 00:28

StevenPar77, Tue 24 Feb 19:02

I know it probably goes against the whole point of the 6 Nations but it needs a relegation/promotion in my opinion.


Agreed

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57. Author:  widtink        
Date: Wed 25th Feb 2026. 11:28

Relegation/ promotion has been talked about in the past and has always been ruled out as relegation would potentially bankrupt the union affected.

Admin


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58. Author:  NMCmassive        
Date: Wed 25th Feb 2026. 15:47

StevenPar77, Tue 24 Feb 19:02

I know it probably goes against the whole point of the 6 Nations but it needs a relegation/promotion in my opinion.


It wouldn’t work. Outside of the big 6 of Europe, Georgia is the only nation that comes close and they’re 40points a match behind the worst team in the 6 nations. They definitely need to come up with something though so someone like Georgia can build to compete at the top table. With Italy only really starting to look competitive now after years of being the whipping boys barring a few results-I don’t think introducing more whipping boys would benefit anyone. I do wonder if teams like Georgia should have mandatory numbers of Autumn tests against the 6 nation sides or something like that. Give them 4 games a season against the top tier for say 8 years and see how they develop.

COYP

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59. Author:  NMCmassive        
Date: Wed 25th Feb 2026. 15:56

PARrot, Tue 24 Feb 12:26

NMCmassive, Tue 24 Feb 12:16

It’s the not winning things and constantly falling short that’s the problem. Folk in here arguing 4th place is acceptable 🤷🏻‍♂️🤣


With our squad v the recent French and Irish squads I would hope third.
Well I`d hope for 3rd but given the resources of England 4th is no shame.
It`s just tough that when we have had such a good squad, they have been even better


Our squad has been as good as and better than Englands for nearly a decade and in that time they’ve got winners medals and we maxed out at third.
Wales won it in 2021 off the top of my head 🤔

Consistently we’ve got our tactics wrong and our penalty count is far too high. Penalty counts being too high in individual matches is issues with players. When it’s game after game it becomes a coaching issue. Probably because of not applying the correct tactics against the opponent and it ends up with players giving away penalties trying to keep the ball or get the ball back when we’re stretched at ruck time.

COYP

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60. Author:  Buspasspar        
Date: Fri 6th Mar 2026. 17:58

Here we go again .. Ireland v Wales tonight .. would love to see Wales ram it up Ireland after all the derogatory and jokes about Wales .. Scotia v Francia and Italy v the Film Stars tomorrow

We are forever shaped by the Children we once were


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