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41. Author: wee eck
Date: Mon 20th May 2024. 10:21
The main symptom is that those who suffer from it don`t realise they`ve got it. Until they do there`s no chance of a cure.
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42. Author: Parboiled
Date: Mon 20th May 2024. 10:31
Can’t be worse than Indy is deid denial…
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43. Author: wee eck
Date: Mon 20th May 2024. 11:08
We`ll know it`s deid when you stop posting about it.
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44. Author: McCaig`s Tower
Date: Wed 22nd May 2024. 19:54
I would have thought that many inflationary pressures were global – things like the war in Ukraine causing increases to energy prices and CoVid causing disruptions to supply chains and giving rise to deferred consumption. And of course one-off shocks will come out of the index after a year.
Given this, it’s difficult to assign most of the blame for inflation going up, just as it is difficult to award credit for it coming back down again. (And the independent Bank of England notionally retains responsibility for managing inflation to its target of 2% p.a.)
There also seems to be some revisionism with regards to “austerity” – assuming this to mean (relative) cuts to public spending. I seem to remember all parties were in favour of cuts – just differing over the timing and extent. (And don’t forget Kate Forbes’ joint authorship of the Sustainable Growth Commission report which advocated long-term austerity, a report that seems to have been quietly binned.)
Regarding wee eck’s point about different voting behaviours, particularly with regard to Europe, the Scottish Exceptionalist argument would be that the English are naturally inferior. Obviously I would disagree with that argument; instead I think that many people simply picked the populist and nationalist option most available to them.
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45. Author: wee eck
Date: Thu 23rd May 2024. 12:08
`Regarding wee eck’s point about different voting behaviours, particularly with regard to Europe, the Scottish Exceptionalist argument would be that the English are naturally inferior. Obviously I would disagree with that argument; instead I think that many people simply picked the populist and nationalist option most available to them.`
Where exactly did I put forward a `Scottish Exceptionalist argument` that suggested the English are `naturally inferior`? For some reason Unionists just can`t entertain the possibility that folk north of the border have a different outlook on certain political issues from our neighbours to the south. It`s not `superior` it`s just `different`. Besides the Brexit vote, how else do you explain the fact that the Tories haven`t won any election up here since the 1950s whilst they have dominated Westminster elections in that time? What exactly does `I think that many people simply picked the populist and nationalist option most available to them` actually mean and why did they choose that option?
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46. Author: desparado
Date: Thu 23rd May 2024. 14:40
The narrative being pushed about the Scottish Gov (SNP ) being incompetent is from the Unionist press, who never ever have a good news story. It’s bad bad bad all the time, so it’s no wonder it has an effect on voting intentions. The Scottish gov have made a horses a** of a few things as all governments do but generally they do a good job trying to mitigate the worst of the Tory policies foisted upon us…..at a cost of c £600 million pa.
There is a democratic deficit in Scotland due to the fact that our neighbours down south have 80% of the voters. Scotlands votes very rarely count and they won’t at this GE either. If nobody in Scotland voted there will still be a Labour Gov.
Will it make any difference in the big scheme of things? Of course not. Starmer will be allowed to win, just as Tony Blair was and Corbyn never could.
Labour/Tory……No difference, they both pander to the people who really pull the strings.
One, maybe two terms of a Labour Gov, then the Tories are back in again and round and round we go in a never ending cycle.
Nothing will change. WM is essentially the English Parliament and Scotland and Wales will always be an after thought.
If people in Scotland are happy with this arrangement, well, hell mend us. We deserve everything we get and not much of it will be good.
What an opportunity we missed in 2014.
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47. Author: MikeyLeonard
Date: Thu 23rd May 2024. 16:56
desparado, Thu 23 May 14:40
The narrative being pushed about the Scottish Gov (SNP ) being incompetent is from the Unionist press, who never ever have a good news story. It’s bad bad bad all the time, so it’s no wonder it has an effect on voting intentions. The Scottish gov have made a horses a** of a few things as all governments do but generally they do a good job trying to mitigate the worst of the Tory policies foisted upon us…..at a cost of c £600 million pa.
There is a democratic deficit in Scotland due to the fact that our neighbours down south have 80% of the voters. Scotlands votes very rarely count and they won’t at this GE either. If nobody in Scotland voted there will still be a Labour Gov.
Will it make any difference in the big scheme of things? Of course not. Starmer will be allowed to win, just as Tony Blair was and Corbyn never could.
Labour/Tory……No difference, they both pander to the people who really pull the strings.
One, maybe two terms of a Labour Gov, then the Tories are back in again and round and round we go in a never ending cycle.
Nothing will change. WM is essentially the English Parliament and Scotland and Wales will always be an after thought.
If people in Scotland are happy with this arrangement, well, hell mend us. We deserve everything we get and not much of it will be good.
Exactly how I see things too Desparado 😕
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48. Author: Tenruh
Date: Thu 23rd May 2024. 19:47
desparado, Thu 23 May 14:40
The narrative being pushed about the Scottish Gov (SNP ) being incompetent is from the Unionist press, who never ever have a good news story. It’s bad bad bad all the time, so it’s no wonder it has an effect on voting intentions. The Scottish gov have made a horses a** of a few things as all governments do but generally they do a good job trying to mitigate the worst of the Tory policies foisted upon us…..at a cost of c £600 million pa.
There is a democratic deficit in Scotland due to the fact that our neighbours down south have 80% of the voters. Scotlands votes very rarely count and they won’t at this GE either. If nobody in Scotland voted there will still be a Labour Gov.
Will it make any difference in the big scheme of things? Of course not. Starmer will be allowed to win, just as Tony Blair was and Corbyn never could.
Labour/Tory……No difference, they both pander to the people who really pull the strings.
One, maybe two terms of a Labour Gov, then the Tories are back in again and round and round we go in a never ending cycle.
Nothing will change. WM is essentially the English Parliament and Scotland and Wales will always be an after thought.
If people in Scotland are happy with this arrangement, well, hell mend us. We deserve everything we get and not much of it will be good.
The Scottish people certainly aren't happy about this arrangement. They`ve voted the SNP into power for 16 years on the promise the SNP would deliver Independence, which is sitting at 50%+ . sadly, the SNP are comfortable to sit in Holyrood with a devolutionist mindset, and the natives are now getting restless, and the SNP will find out in 6 weeks time what damage they've done.
But it doesn`t really matter because if the SNP get 5 or 45 into Westminster its not going to make any difference because asking for a s30 has ran its course and the public know it.
The public deserve to be independent running their own country its the political party that's let them down.
Vote SNP and all we're going to get is more devolution.
Post Edited (Thu 23 May 19:57)
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49. Author: The One Who Knocks
Date: Thu 23rd May 2024. 19:54
It`s not at 50%+ and hasn`t been for some years now.
And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed
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50. Author: Tenruh
Date: Thu 23rd May 2024. 20:11
The One Who Knocks, Thu 23 May 19:54
It`s not at 50%+ and hasn`t been for some years now.
Wishful thinking on my part....Ipsos Scotland November 2023 independence polling at 51%.
Now polling at 46%. It's got worse even with the blue tories in government.
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51. Author: LochgellyAlbert
Date: Thu 23rd May 2024. 21:06
Tenruh, Thu 23 May 20:11
The One Who Knocks, Thu 23 May 19:54
It`s not at 50%+ and hasn`t been for some years now.
Wishful thinking on my part....Ipsos Scotland November 2023 independence polling at 51%.
Now polling at 46%. It`s got worse even with the blue tories in government.
Will be if they keep polling south of the border!🤔😲
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52. Author: Dave_1885
Date: Thu 23rd May 2024. 22:21
Tenruh, Thu 23 May 19:47
desparado, Thu 23 May 14:40
The narrative being pushed about the Scottish Gov (SNP ) being incompetent is from the Unionist press, who never ever have a good news story. It’s bad bad bad all the time, so it’s no wonder it has an effect on voting intentions. The Scottish gov have made a horses a** of a few things as all governments do but generally they do a good job trying to mitigate the worst of the Tory policies foisted upon us…..at a cost of c £600 million pa.
There is a democratic deficit in Scotland due to the fact that our neighbours down south have 80% of the voters. Scotlands votes very rarely count and they won’t at this GE either. If nobody in Scotland voted there will still be a Labour Gov.
Will it make any difference in the big scheme of things? Of course not. Starmer will be allowed to win, just as Tony Blair was and Corbyn never could.
Labour/Tory……No difference, they both pander to the people who really pull the strings.
One, maybe two terms of a Labour Gov, then the Tories are back in again and round and round we go in a never ending cycle.
Nothing will change. WM is essentially the English Parliament and Scotland and Wales will always be an after thought.
If people in Scotland are happy with this arrangement, well, hell mend us. We deserve everything we get and not much of it will be good.
The Scottish people certainly aren`t happy about this arrangement. They`ve voted the SNP into power for 16 years on the promise the SNP would deliver Independence, which is sitting at 50% . sadly, the SNP are comfortable to sit in Holyrood with a devolutionist mindset, and the natives are now getting restless, and the SNP will find out in 6 weeks time what damage they`ve done.
But it doesn`t really matter because if the SNP get 5 or 45 into Westminster its not going to make any difference because asking for a s30 has ran its course and the public know it.
The public deserve to be independent running their own country its the political party that`s let them down.
Vote SNP and all we`re going to get is more devolution.
You keep peddling this line that the SNP are happy to be a devolutionist party, but still cant tell us the legal route to independence that they could have taken in the last 10 years…….
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53. Author: wee eck
Date: Thu 23rd May 2024. 23:14
He probably blamed Santa when he didn`t get a unicorn for Christmas.
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54. Author: Tenruh
Date: Fri 24th May 2024. 06:02
Dave_1885, Thu 23 May 22:21
Tenruh, Thu 23 May 19:47
desparado, Thu 23 May 14:40
The narrative being pushed about the Scottish Gov (SNP ) being incompetent is from the Unionist press, who never ever have a good news story. It’s bad bad bad all the time, so it’s no wonder it has an effect on voting intentions. The Scottish gov have made a horses a** of a few things as all governments do but generally they do a good job trying to mitigate the worst of the Tory policies foisted upon us…..at a cost of c £600 million pa.
There is a democratic deficit in Scotland due to the fact that our neighbours down south have 80% of the voters. Scotlands votes very rarely count and they won’t at this GE either. If nobody in Scotland voted there will still be a Labour Gov.
Will it make any difference in the big scheme of things? Of course not. Starmer will be allowed to win, just as Tony Blair was and Corbyn never could.
Labour/Tory……No difference, they both pander to the people who really pull the strings.
One, maybe two terms of a Labour Gov, then the Tories are back in again and round and round we go in a never ending cycle.
Nothing will change. WM is essentially the English Parliament and Scotland and Wales will always be an after thought.
If people in Scotland are happy with this arrangement, well, hell mend us. We deserve everything we get and not much of it will be good.
The Scottish people certainly aren`t happy about this arrangement. They`ve voted the SNP into power for 16 years on the promise the SNP would deliver Independence, which is sitting at 50% . sadly, the SNP are comfortable to sit in Holyrood with a devolutionist mindset, and the natives are now getting restless, and the SNP will find out in 6 weeks time what damage they`ve done.
But it doesn`t really matter because if the SNP get 5 or 45 into Westminster its not going to make any difference because asking for a s30 has ran its course and the public know it.
The public deserve to be independent running their own country its the political party that`s let them down.
Vote SNP and all we`re going to get is more devolution.
You keep peddling this line that the SNP are happy to be a devolutionist party, but still cant tell us the legal route to independence that they could have taken in the last 10 years…….
That`s for the SNP to tell us surely? They keep promising it before a GA to harvest up the votes.
Go show me what the SNP have done to convince you they are totally committed to Independence.
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55. Author: Dave_1885
Date: Fri 24th May 2024. 09:17
Tenruh, Fri 24 May 06:02
Dave_1885, Thu 23 May 22:21
Tenruh, Thu 23 May 19:47
desparado, Thu 23 May 14:40
The narrative being pushed about the Scottish Gov (SNP ) being incompetent is from the Unionist press, who never ever have a good news story. It’s bad bad bad all the time, so it’s no wonder it has an effect on voting intentions. The Scottish gov have made a horses a** of a few things as all governments do but generally they do a good job trying to mitigate the worst of the Tory policies foisted upon us…..at a cost of c £600 million pa.
There is a democratic deficit in Scotland due to the fact that our neighbours down south have 80% of the voters. Scotlands votes very rarely count and they won’t at this GE either. If nobody in Scotland voted there will still be a Labour Gov.
Will it make any difference in the big scheme of things? Of course not. Starmer will be allowed to win, just as Tony Blair was and Corbyn never could.
Labour/Tory……No difference, they both pander to the people who really pull the strings.
One, maybe two terms of a Labour Gov, then the Tories are back in again and round and round we go in a never ending cycle.
Nothing will change. WM is essentially the English Parliament and Scotland and Wales will always be an after thought.
If people in Scotland are happy with this arrangement, well, hell mend us. We deserve everything we get and not much of it will be good.
The Scottish people certainly aren`t happy about this arrangement. They`ve voted the SNP into power for 16 years on the promise the SNP would deliver Independence, which is sitting at 50% . sadly, the SNP are comfortable to sit in Holyrood with a devolutionist mindset, and the natives are now getting restless, and the SNP will find out in 6 weeks time what damage they`ve done.
But it doesn`t really matter because if the SNP get 5 or 45 into Westminster its not going to make any difference because asking for a s30 has ran its course and the public know it.
The public deserve to be independent running their own country its the political party that`s let them down.
Vote SNP and all we`re going to get is more devolution.
You keep peddling this line that the SNP are happy to be a devolutionist party, but still cant tell us the legal route to independence that they could have taken in the last 10 years…….
That`s for the SNP to tell us surely? They keep promising it before a GA to harvest up the votes.
Go show me what the SNP have done to convince you they are totally committed to Independence.
Im guessing you missed the part where they went to the Supreme Court about the laws regarding an Indy Ref then…….
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56. Author: Tenruh
Date: Fri 24th May 2024. 09:25
Dave_1885, Fri 24 May 09:17
Tenruh, Fri 24 May 06:02
Dave_1885, Thu 23 May 22:21
Tenruh, Thu 23 May 19:47
desparado, Thu 23 May 14:40
The narrative being pushed about the Scottish Gov (SNP ) being incompetent is from the Unionist press, who never ever have a good news story. It’s bad bad bad all the time, so it’s no wonder it has an effect on voting intentions. The Scottish gov have made a horses a** of a few things as all governments do but generally they do a good job trying to mitigate the worst of the Tory policies foisted upon us…..at a cost of c £600 million pa.
There is a democratic deficit in Scotland due to the fact that our neighbours down south have 80% of the voters. Scotlands votes very rarely count and they won’t at this GE either. If nobody in Scotland voted there will still be a Labour Gov.
Will it make any difference in the big scheme of things? Of course not. Starmer will be allowed to win, just as Tony Blair was and Corbyn never could.
Labour/Tory……No difference, they both pander to the people who really pull the strings.
One, maybe two terms of a Labour Gov, then the Tories are back in again and round and round we go in a never ending cycle.
Nothing will change. WM is essentially the English Parliament and Scotland and Wales will always be an after thought.
If people in Scotland are happy with this arrangement, well, hell mend us. We deserve everything we get and not much of it will be good.
The Scottish people certainly aren`t happy about this arrangement. They`ve voted the SNP into power for 16 years on the promise the SNP would deliver Independence, which is sitting at 50% . sadly, the SNP are comfortable to sit in Holyrood with a devolutionist mindset, and the natives are now getting restless, and the SNP will find out in 6 weeks time what damage they`ve done.
But it doesn`t really matter because if the SNP get 5 or 45 into Westminster its not going to make any difference because asking for a s30 has ran its course and the public know it.
The public deserve to be independent running their own country its the political party that`s let them down.
Vote SNP and all we`re going to get is more devolution.
You keep peddling this line that the SNP are happy to be a devolutionist party, but still cant tell us the legal route to independence that they could have taken in the last 10 years…….
That`s for the SNP to tell us surely? They keep promising it before a GA to harvest up the votes.
Go show me what the SNP have done to convince you they are totally committed to Independence.
Im guessing you missed the part where they went to the Supreme Court about the laws regarding an Indy Ref then…….
How stupid was that....Why did it take 10 years to go to a made-up court setup by Tony Blair to stiffle independence, they could have gone there in 2015 , at least going to it got rid of Sturgeon.
40+ SNP MPs in Westminster for 10 years doing nothing other than taking the wages.what has that achieved for Scotland?
Post Edited (Fri 24 May 09:29)
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57. Author: wee eck
Date: Fri 24th May 2024. 09:37
At least the folk who voted them in know they are still loyal to the SNP, unlike your pals in Alba.
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58. Author: jake89
Date: Fri 24th May 2024. 10:57
I think this is a dilemma. Despite their faults, I think the SNP have Scotland`s best interest at heart, particularly those in Holyrood. However, I can see the attraction of change. But voting Labour will be an absolute disaster for Scotland. Sarwar is one of the weakest leaders in Holyrood and "Scottish" Labour MPs and MSPs will be forced to dance to the tune of Keir Starmer who is probably the least Labour-like MP to have ever walked the Earth.
I`ve said already I don`t think I can vote Green again. It feels like they`ve forgotten about green issues and independence and are transfixed by trans issues. I`m not denying there are issues for trans people but we are talking about a tiny proportion of the Scottish public and most of their issues are a result of our-dated processes and IT systems that can`t cope with someone who is biologically a woman being recorded as being a man with a "Mr" prefix. From that tiny proportion of people there is an even tinier group of people who take it to the extreme.
I`d be keen to hear from Alba but I don`t think Dunfermline has a candidate. I`d also prefer they were led by someone like Salmond despite his tarnished past as he`s still a very intelligent and articulate leader IMO.
Anyone STILL voting Tory needs their heads checked IMO.
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59. Author: Parboiled
Date: Fri 24th May 2024. 11:59
I suppose all you fervent Seps will be donating to the SNP election fighting fund?
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60. Author: Tenruh
Date: Fri 24th May 2024. 12:43
wee eck, Fri 24 May 09:37
At least the folk who voted them in know they are still loyal to the SNP, unlike your pals in Alba.
Could you please break that down a bit as I`m lost in what you`ve wrote.
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