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| 101. Author: McCaig`s Tower Date: Fri 31st May 2024. 20:20 HJ You need to learn the difference between the UK and England. If Sunak were to say they were virtually synonymous people would have a fit. Talkin’ about my generation (and I’ve been around for a lot of it) I don’t remember it discuss the UK much at all. Absolutely, Scotland (or the Scots, whoever we are) should not settle for mediocrity, but many of us do. As I ‘ve said before, the attempted point scoring about the NHS – happy as long as we’re not bottom in a league of 4 no matter how many of us are on never-ending waiting lists - is reminiscent of football fans being happier to see their rivals fail than be successful themselves. We could stop making excuses and get on with it; or we could blame others and do nothing. I note that you want Scotland to be independent because you believe we are different in our progressive ambitions. So I think on the scale of being different, thinking differently and voting differently that would be in the thinking differently camp? Fair enough , but I would suggest two things – one is that we are not as progressive as we like to think; and the cost of being progressive is too great (see the Growth Commission’s report.) I’d love to do more reading on the energy market. I hear different and contradictory claims all the time. Who do I believe? For example John Swinney said the other day that 100% of Scotland’s electricity came from renewable sources, yet Sturgeon was rebuked by the UK Statistics Authority for making a similar (and false) claim and had to apologise. I think Kate Forbes may have been trotting out this canard as well. Then there is the argument about cost – some focus on standing charges, other on unit costs, others on total bills. Now “England is stealing our resources” is an Anglophobic trope. But you said something slightly different – that England is “stripping us of our resources”. This is more of the implicit suggestion that we are victims of some rapacious colonial oppressor. Who is England? Now I would have thought that the Electricity market is relatively simple in principle – companies generate electricity, sell it to suppliers who supply it to consumers. There needs to be a method (the grid, for example) of transmission as well. Is it that simple? So where is the resource stripping happening? And who is doing the stripping? Reply |
| 102. Author: wee eck Date: Fri 31st May 2024. 20:42 The Treaty of Union is a fact. Unless I picked things up wrongly at school it`s the reason we`re in a union with England. All the scenarios you present are hypothetical. If any of these regions or nations want to negotiate their independence good luck to them. Even if Scotland voted identically to England it should have the right to leave the union if it wants to and there should be a prescribed democratic route to achieve that which does not require the permission of the other partner. I don`t see that as being a particularly controversial notion. Reply |
| 103. Author: Parboiled Date: Fri 31st May 2024. 21:42 After scraping together a magnificent 37% of the electorate for breaking away in 2014 you would think a dead duck had more life in it…. Reply |
| 104. Author: wee eck Date: Fri 31st May 2024. 23:17 So is that what would have happened if `Yes` had exceeded 50% in 2014? The result would have been recalculated as a % of the electorate? Never trust a Unionist. Reply |
| 105. Author: Tad Allagash Date: Sat 1st Jun 2024. 00:56 ‘Tad - So we`re into the realms of calling nation states imaginary if part of their frontier is a land border? I guess I just imagined my visit to Switzerland…’ Yes, they speak at least four different languages. Also, for someone that constantly bigs up the EU, you seem to spend at lot of time outside it. And what does your wee mate Greta think about your carbon footprint? 😂 Wee Eck - what is the ‘prescribed democratic route’ for Fife to achieve independence from Scotland? The problem with the old ‘it’s Scotland’s oil’ argument is that it’s not Edinburgh’s oil and it sure as hell isn’t Glasgow’s oil. Reply |
| 106. Author: hurricane_jimmy Date: Sat 1st Jun 2024. 09:01 Jake - Would you really expect that a low-level Scotland Office stooge WOULD be interested in Facts? 😂 Tad - Oh dear, we`re back to the old and very telling defensive quip to avoid addressing the point! 😂 Just as a fact check: I spent 31.5 of my 32.5 years living in EU countries, so aye...try again. I`m also very curious where I have said I endorse Greta Thunberg? If you are however lacking a wee bit in your understanding of the high school Chemistry and Physics principles behind climate change and think its a lie, then as a qualified science teacher I can help ye oot neebz! Reply |
| 107. Author: jake89 Date: Sat 1st Jun 2024. 09:59 In all seriousness, if anyone posting on this thread is a member of the Scotland Office (or any civil service org) they should really stop. It`s a breach of the civil service code. Reply |
| 108. Author: wee eck Date: Sat 1st Jun 2024. 10:21 `Wee Eck - what is the ‘prescribed democratic route’ for Fife to achieve independence from Scotland? The problem with the old ‘it’s Scotland’s oil’ argument is that it’s not Edinburgh’s oil and it sure as hell isn’t Glasgow’s oil.` As I said, these are all hypothetical scenarios. I don`t see their relevance to the Scotland/UK situation as it exists. In the present day would anyone join an organisation they couldn`t leave of their own free will? And where did I mention Scotland`s oil? Reply |
| 109. Author: LochgellyAlbert Date: Tue 17th Sep 2024. 10:21 Nice to see the latest poll on independence trending!🤔🏴🏴🏴 Reply |
| 110. Author: The One Who Knocks Date: Tue 17th Sep 2024. 10:52 Can`t find any news about it. Can you give us details? And although my eyes were open They just might as well be closed Reply |
| 111. Author: Parboiled Date: Tue 17th Sep 2024. 12:05 The only polls that count are the ones where votes are cast. Indy got stuffed in 2014 and ten years later the SNP filleted. Nice to see that photo again of a disconsolate Salmond being whisked away in his limo after the first Indy ref result came in. The pollsters couldn’t have been more wrong, the voters were playing with them Reply |
| 112. Author: The One Who Knocks Date: Tue 17th Sep 2024. 12:19 All but one poll said that No would win. And although my eyes were open They just might as well be closed Reply |
| 113. Author: LochgellyAlbert Date: Tue 17th Sep 2024. 12:45 [url]https://www.thenational.scot/news/24587438.poll-50-scots-want-second-independence-referendum/[/url] Reply |
| 114. Author: red-star-par Date: Tue 17th Sep 2024. 13:36 LochgellyAlbert, Tue 17 Sept 12:45 "Almost one in 10 were undecided while younger voters were more likely to want independence, with 63% of 16 to 34-year-olds saying they would choose Yes while the same number of over 65s would vote No. " Good to see the younger generation are a bit more clued up than the stupid old fogeys who threw that generations future away with their votes on independence and Brexit. Hopefully the actions of successive Tory and Red Tory governments will give them what they voted for Reply |
| 115. Author: wee eck Date: Tue 17th Sep 2024. 13:53 The unionist media are always telling us that the independence movement has hardly moved the dial since 2014. Of course that means that support for the Union has diminished in that time. If the case for the Union is so compelling why haven`t more people been convinced by it? Reply |
| 116. Author: jake89 Date: Tue 17th Sep 2024. 15:17 Westminster has really missed a trick by bit going devo-max. Reply |
| 117. Author: LochgellyAlbert Date: Tue 17th Sep 2024. 15:46 red-star-par, Tue 17 Sept 13:36 This old fogey plus his wife voted to stay in the EU and voted for Independence, unlike my 90yr+ mother who was terrified of loosing her State Pension! Thank you Gordon Brown!🤬 Reply |