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Topic: General Election
41. Author:  widtink        
Date: Mon 27th May 2024. 02:55

So because I`ve never done national service I`m not allowed to comment?
Oh ok then .
šŸ˜Ÿ

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42. Author:  jake89        
Date: Mon 27th May 2024. 07:37

widtink, Mon 27 May 02:55

So because I`ve never done national service I`m not allowed to comment?
Oh ok then .
šŸ˜Ÿ


I was meaning MPs and all these idiots saying it`s a good thing. How would they possibly know when none have done it? Why limit it to 18 year olds if it`s such a good thing?

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43. Author:  widtink        
Date: Mon 27th May 2024. 08:56

Aw cool , so I can comment.
Excellent.
Well I`m undecided about this whole thing at the moment but as soon as I`ve had a gid think about it I`ll be back.
Ttfn šŸ™‚

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44. Author:  jake89        
Date: Mon 27th May 2024. 09:23

Well, I`ll see what you say and then decide if you need to edit/delete/card yourself šŸ˜‰

In all seriousness, I believe there should be some form of mandatory activities for those who aren`t in education or employment and claim benefits. But that would be regardless of age and more focussed on improving key skills. I don`t understand why Sunak is focussing on 18 year olds other than to give the Wetherspoons breakfast brigade something to cheer about. I don`t know what planet he`s on, but any 18 year old considered the "brightest and best" will likely already be signed up to college, university or in a job. You don`t just pick up things like cyber security doing a day a week!

How about instead of nonsense schemes like national service they start providing better funding to youth centres and create more on the job training opportunities?

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45. Author:  DBP        
Date: Mon 27th May 2024. 11:58

Exactly, invest that money in creating apprenticeship places, not schemes to get folk picking litter

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46. Author:  Wotsit        
Date: Mon 27th May 2024. 12:35

Britons never never neeeevvveeer shall be slaves.

Unless they`re young, obviously.

The enemy travels by private jet, not by dinghy.

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47. Author:  Parboiled        
Date: Mon 27th May 2024. 13:42

National service ended before my time. I would have opted for the Wrens though.



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48. Author:  The One Who Knocks        
Date: Mon 27th May 2024. 16:32

Quite a few European nations, and all the Nordic ones I think, have national service. Those are the progressive nations we are always hearing about right?

And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed


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49. Author:  jake89        
Date: Mon 27th May 2024. 18:05

You mean Norway where you can do it up to age 44 and you have to apply for it? I`m failing to see how that`s the same as making it mandatory for only 18 year olds.

Sunak will be long gone but let`s bring it in anyway and start by sending all the ex-Tory MPs off to help in Ukraine. I know 30p Lee has defected but I`m sure he`ll be up for it.

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50. Author:  Tad Allagash        
Date: Mon 27th May 2024. 18:52

Didnā€™t the legendary Ivo Den Bieman sign for the Pars to avoid national service in the Netherlands?



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51. Author:  The One Who Knocks        
Date: Mon 27th May 2024. 18:58

No I didn`t say Norway I said Nordic which includes Norway. The Scandinavian countries Jake.

And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed


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52. Author:  wee eck        
Date: Mon 27th May 2024. 19:25

I see a retiring Tory MP is endorsing the Reform UK candidate in her constituency and the President of the Birmingham Young Conservatives (is that those under 65?) has joined the Liberal Democrats. Happy ship!



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53. Author:  Tenruh        
Date: Mon 27th May 2024. 19:59

Tories could get routed by the Reform Party.

Hopefully this is the beginning the dismantling of the cosy Tory/Labour pact.

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54. Author:  jake89        
Date: Tue 28th May 2024. 05:19

The One Who Knocks, Mon 27 May 18:58

No I didn`t say Norway I said Nordic which includes Norway. The Scandinavian countries Jake.


Yes, and Norway is the one Scotland is regularly compared to.

Maybe you meant Sweden? Covers people into their 40s and is only ever mandatory if they go to war.

Albie Amankona (Tory cretin who appears on the likes of GB News and Talk TV - both run by even bigger cretins) made a similar claim yesterday and was proven incorrect.

The simple fact is that this has been proposed because it appeals to older people like 30p Lee who are intent on punishing the young despite very few of them facing the hardships young people of today have. I don`t blame them though when they`re spoon-fed ignorance every day in the news.

I suppose the other fact is that it`ll go nowhere because those robbing Tories will be gone soon and will be off the hook for the billions they stole from the taxpayer. They should be in jail but instead will walk off with the money and/or get jobs on the aforementioned channels.

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55. Author:  Tenruh        
Date: Tue 28th May 2024. 05:56

jake89, Tue 28 May 05:19

The One Who Knocks, Mon 27 May 18:58

No I didn`t say Norway I said Nordic which includes Norway. The Scandinavian countries Jake.


Yes, and Norway is the one Scotland is regularly compared to.

Maybe you meant Sweden? Covers people into their 40s and is only ever mandatory if they go to war.

Albie Amankona (Tory cretin who appears on the likes of GB News and Talk TV - both run by even bigger cretins) made a similar claim yesterday and was proven incorrect.

The simple fact is that this has been proposed because it appeals to older people like 30p Lee who are intent on punishing the young despite very few of them facing the hardships young people of today have. I don`t blame them though when they`re spoon-fed ignorance every day in the news.

I suppose the other fact is that it`ll go nowhere because those robbing Tories will be gone soon and will be off the hook for the billions they stole from the taxpayer. They should be in jail but instead will walk off with the money and/or get jobs on the aforementioned channels.


Surely the incoming government can pursue any indiscretions re tax fraud or do the parties have an unspoken agreement šŸ¤?

The Icelanders dealt with the bankers in 2007/8

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56. Author:  The One Who Knocks        
Date: Tue 28th May 2024. 08:33

No I meant the Scandinavian nations Jake. They all have some form of national service. In Sweden, as of this year, they have mandatory civic service. About 100,000 young people will be drafted and ten percent of them will be forced to do it unwillingly. Or how about France where they have Universal National Service which is for 15-17 year olds?
Like you say though Jake, it ain`t happening anyway as Labour aren`t the ones proposing it and they will be power in five weeks time.

Tenruh, unfortunately or perhaps fortunately I guess, proof and evidence of wrongdoing is required before legal action can be taken.

And although my eyes were open
They just might as well be closed


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57. Author:  Parboiled        
Date: Tue 28th May 2024. 11:55

Neil Gray busy ā€¦on his MSP X account campaigning for Taylor Swift tickets!



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58. Author:  jake89        
Date: Tue 28th May 2024. 12:18

The One Who Knocks, Tue 28 May 08:33

No I meant the Scandinavian nations Jake. They all have some form of national service. In Sweden, as of this year, they have mandatory civic service. About 100,000 young people will be drafted and ten percent of them will be forced to do it unwillingly. Or how about France where they have Universal National Service which is for 15-17 year olds?
Like you say though Jake, it ain`t happening anyway as Labour aren`t the ones proposing it and they will be power in five weeks time.

Tenruh, unfortunately or perhaps fortunately I guess, proof and evidence of wrongdoing is required before legal action can be taken.


Yes, but it`s Norway that Scotland is regularly compared to rather than Sweden or other Scandinavian countries.

Regardless of what Sweden or other countries do, it`s pretty foolish to only focus on 18 year olds. What Sunak is proposing sounds like something they came up with down the pub.

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59. Author:  DBP        
Date: Tue 28th May 2024. 12:31

Thereā€™s no way an 18yr me would have done thisā€¦ not the army bit per se, but the whole swearing allegiance would be a hard no from me!

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60. Author:  Tenruh        
Date: Tue 28th May 2024. 12:41

DBP, Tue 28 May 12:31

Thereā€™s no way an 18yr me would have done thisā€¦ not the army bit per se, but the whole swearing allegiance would be a hard no from me!


Me also, but many choose to do it.

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