Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Wed 18 Feb 23:02

We already have an aging population as a result of low birth rates because people can`t afford to raise children. Why would we want to discourage breeding? Who do pensioners think is paying their pensions, care and free bus passes? Yes, they may have worked their whole lives but they`re now living too long and there aren`t enough young workers to pay for them. This is even more true in Scotland thanks to a lot of young people leaving for jobs while pensioners come here to retire.

Bletchley_Par, Thu 19 Feb 00:41

Topic Originator: jake89
Date: Wed 18 Feb 23:02

We already have an aging population as a result of low birth rates because people can`t afford to raise children. Why would we want to discourage breeding? Who do pensioners think is paying their pensions, care and free bus passes? Yes, they may have worked their whole lives but they`re now living too long and there aren`t enough young workers to pay for them. This is even more true in Scotland thanks to a lot of young people leaving for jobs while pensioners come here to retire.

[b]"How scarce were the elderly in the British past?"[/b]
"Today those aged 60 and over make up slightly more than 1 in 5 of the​ ​UK population. It is tempting to believe that in the distant past, because there were fewer older people, they enjoyed a greater cachet."

So 1 in 5 over 60 in 2020.

https://www.campop.geog.cam.ac.uk/blog/2024/10/10/how-scarce-were-the-elderly/




[b]"An Ageing Population": 1978 by Vida Carver and Penny Liddiard, Open University Press.[/b]
"At the beginning of this century (the 20th century, so from 1901) approximately 7% (of the UK) is 60 or more, today the proportion is 20%"

So 20% over 60 in 1978.

https://archive.org/details/ageingpopulation0000unse_w1e6/page/n1/mode/2up



I think this "bro trust me" narrative of the "we have an ageing population" deserves some further scrutiny.

And that`s before we get to the discussion of age versus are we living healthier discussion or what is burdening the NHS now compared to 50 years ago.

Hoolie, Thu 19 Feb 21:59

Well well Jake and I can relate to you on this. My wife is a carer and loves her job but the pressure is unbelievable with how many visits she has in a shift and it’s not proper caring now. Plus she has to deal with younger people with mental health problems etc….That is not her duties paid on £16 an hour tbh?

jake89, Thu 19 Feb 22:12

Hoolie, Thu 19 Feb 21:59

Well well Jake and I can relate to you on this. My wife is a carer and loves her job but the pressure is unbelievable with how many visits she has in a shift and it’s not proper caring now. Plus she has to deal with younger people with mental health problems etc….That is not her duties paid on £16 an hour tbh?

People like your wife don`t get enough credit. There`s always a willing to pay carers more (as they deserve!) but there`s not enough money in the sector to cover it and there`s only so long you can rely on the goodwill of carers.

desparado, Tue 17 Feb 17:59

87par has to be trolling. Nobody can be that thick and ignorant surely ?

If He/She really wants change, significant change, then voting for parties that are controlled by the invisible and powerful elite is not going to change a single thing.

The only significant change Scotland can get is by becoming an independent country…

jake89, Tue 17 Feb 19:51

Hoolie, Tue 17 Feb 18:47

I think a lot of the problems is the use of the word immigrant. If people from other countries want to come over and work/pay their way and help the economy then that’s great and I hope they live many years in Britain.
It’s the Illegal immigrants that have come over and getting put up in hotels etc that is annoying British hard working people imo. It’s the billions that have been spent on them getting housed/healthcare and benefits and our own British people are struggling.
But to be honest I think the government has broken Britain and it can’t be fixed and there will be civil unrest on the streets in a years time between gangs/religions.
I like what Rupert Lowe/Farage has to say but the whole lot of them and that includes that wee rocket Starmer are all liars. Mind you the Tory lass is a good watch when she tears Starmer apart in the commons.
As for SNP I think it will take a full overhaul getting rid off the deadwood after what Nippy Nicky and her husband did.

One look at the Dunfermline Press Facebook will show that many people think otherwise. The recent opening of Good Burger is an example. People commenting that it`s run by rhyming slang for a racial slur. Same with comments about any vacant land being made in mosques. Legal or illegal, the racists are out there being *****.