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| 1. Author: Parsdaft Date: Tue 22nd Jul 2025. 22:04 Some big goal differences out there for teams on 6 and 7 points in 2nd place. Let’s throw the kitchen sink at it Saturday. Reply |
| 2. Author: Dave_1885 Date: Tue 22nd Jul 2025. 22:07 Just said that on match thread, we really need a 3/4 goal win tonight I think to have a chance. Going to have to batter Stirling now, only 3 teams from 8 go through so going to be tough and need a lot of results in our favour. Reply |
| 3. Author: PARrot Date: Wed 23rd Jul 2025. 00:18 Dave_1885, Tue 22 Jul 22:07 Some of those teams have a more difficult final game than us I think we shoul put enough past Stirling to get through I cant find time to do a full analysis Reply |
| 4. Author: onandupthepars Date: Wed 23rd Jul 2025. 01:18 This is the order of 2nd placed teams as it stands, according to Flashscore: https://www.flashscore.co.uk/football/scotland/league-cup/standings/#/4lxmmct4/table/overall I tried to copy the table and paste but the format gets all knocked to pot. 1 Ross Coonty 7 pts GD 9 2 Buddies 7 pts GD 7 3 Cove 7 pts GD 4 4 ICT 6 pts GD 5 5 Diamonds 6pts GD 4 6 East Fife 6 pts GD 3 7= The Ton 6 pts GD 2 7= Pars 6 pts GD 2 Airdrie have only played 2, all others played 3 Some relevant fixtures: Montrose v Airdrie today (Wed). Airdrie v Alloa on Saturday. Airdrie must drop at least 3 points. Ross County v Partick. RC must drop at least a point. St Mirren v Ayr. Saints must drop at least a point. Queen`s Park v Cove. Cove must drop at least a point. Hope I`ve got it right. Somebody else can check and give more detail? Reply |
| 5. Author: NMCmassive Date: Wed 23rd Jul 2025. 01:43 IMHO not qualifying might not be the worst thing to happen. A run in the Scottish cup might be good but the next couple of seasons for us will be about the league. COYP Reply |
| 6. Author: Never10yairds Date: Wed 23rd Jul 2025. 02:22 I’m not too fussed if we qualify or not as long as we win Saturday. It was always going to be tough. I said beforehand if we won 3 of the 4 I’d be happy and we look on course to do that. Going to Tynecastle was always going to be rough. Cup runs are nice and all but promotion to the top level is the main aim. Reply |
| 7. Author: parsfan Date: Wed 23rd Jul 2025. 08:16 I initially thought it looked really unlikely just looking at the tables, but had a closer look along with fixtures later. If we were to win by three, that would put us on nine points and plus five, (9/+5). Group A Falkirk (8/+9) v Spartans Queens Park v Cove (7/+4) Assume Falkirk win the group, we`d need Queen`s Park to take something. Group B Ross Co (7/+9) v Partick (9/+7) Need Partick to win/extra point draw or a comfortable home win. Group C Assume Airdrie beat Montrose tonight Airdrie (9/+>4) v Alloa (9/+3) Either team to win. Group D St Mirren (7/+7) v Ayr (9/+12) Likely beyond us, unless Ayr win/winning draw. Group F Rovers v Inverness (6/+5) St Johnstone (9/+5) v Elgin Rovers to take something. Group G Motherwell have won the group Morton (6/+2) v Clyde (6/+1) Winners to not win by more than us. Group H Kilmarnock (7/+3) v East Fife (6/+3) Livingston (6/+2) v Kelty Assuming Killie beat East Fife to win the group we need Livingston to not win by more than us. Groups A, B and D are the biggest challenge. We do our thing and if just one of them goes our way we`re in with a shout. All things considered, I`m not that hopeful. I`ll be happy with a win and a good performance. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The universe is ruled by chance and indifference  Post Edited (Wed 23 Jul 08:19) Reply |
| 8. Author: onandupthepars Date: Wed 23rd Jul 2025. 10:22 Well done Parsfan. I had overlooked the fact that some of the teams now in first place are not certain to stay there. A big win v Stirling Albion, good performance and no injuries would satisfy me. Post Edited (Wed 23 Jul 10:23) Reply |
| 9. Author: king lad Date: Wed 23rd Jul 2025. 10:29 All they can do is go out and try to put a few goals past Stirling, can`t do anything about the other groups and how they`ve played out. Been pleasantly surprised in the games so far, fought well against hearts, completely dominated Dumbarton and were solid enough last night even with the lack of bodies up front. Reply |
| 10. Author: Berry Date: Wed 23rd Jul 2025. 10:35 Really not a fan of this format and would prefer it’s just a straight knockout. You have teams in groups playing each other differently e.g. we got the game at Tynecastle where another team would’ve had them at home. With no real disrespect intended but there isn’t a depth of quality across the Scottish leagues so with the right team in your group, a walloping is on the cards and you’re up against it from the get go. Reply |
| 11. Author: onandupthepars Date: Wed 23rd Jul 2025. 10:54 Three games in eight days isn`t ideal either. Reply |
| 12. Author: Shaggy`s Beard Date: Wed 23rd Jul 2025. 13:18 A potentially interesting scenario arises in Group C should Airdrie win tonight. As Parsfan points out Airdrie and Alloa are then both on 9 points. They could therefore play out a shameful 0 - 0 at the weekend, ensuring both teams qualify from the group. Extremely unlikely we can qualify, gonna miss out on goal difference I`d say. Reply |
| 13. Author: GJS93 Date: Wed 23rd Jul 2025. 13:39 depends if Airdrie want to be seeded in the next round or not. "All they can do is go out and try to put a few goals past Stirling, can`t do anything about the other groups and how they`ve played out" ^^ this. Reply |
| 14. Author: Geordiepar Date: Wed 23rd Jul 2025. 13:54 As mentioned there are a variety of results which aren’t too unlikely which would give us a chance of qualifying. What I do find completely unfair is that the Ayr v St Mirren match is played on Sunday whereas all of the other final group games are 3pm on Saturday. With Ayr on 9 points from 3 games and a goal difference of 12 they look odds on to qualify. St Mirren are on 7 points with a GD of 7, so know that a win or ‘winning’ draw is needed. They will however have the benefit of knowing exactly what is needed before kick off, which is a completely unfair situation. Reply |
| 15. Author: Indiapar1 Date: Wed 23rd Jul 2025. 13:56 I think it`s more about winning every game and getting into the goal scoring and winning mentality. G Wardrope Reply |
| 16. Author: PARrot Date: Wed 23rd Jul 2025. 13:58 If it is down to goal difference we can expect all out attack. Lennon will tell them to shoot on sight. Caution to the wind. Losing would be no worse than not scoring enough. Reply |
| 17. Author: Jeffery Date: Thu 24th Jul 2025. 16:29 Berry, Wed 23 Jul 10:35 Agree with this. I`m not a fan of the format either. Maybe just because it seems to disadvantage us because we`re not a premier league team but would like to qualify. 😂 It`s not often though you see a group stage competition where a team will go out having won 3 out of 4 games (here), or 2 out of 3 (world cup/euros - 6 points), or 4 out of 6 games (champions league - 12 points). It does happen but seems far less frequent than this competition? It would be better if the top two went through or there was a playoff of some kind. Reply |
| 18. Author: wee eck Date: Thu 24th Jul 2025. 16:35 Drawing Hearts was a bit of a triple whammy- 1 Probably the best team in the qualifying stages 2 Playing them away from home 3 Playing them in the first match Reply |
| 19. Author: vasco Date: Thu 24th Jul 2025. 17:01 Giving away 2 stupid penalties at Tynecastle scuppered qualification. Reply |
| 20. Author: Buster_Brown Date: Thu 24th Jul 2025. 17:34 Must admit, I like it and for me, it’s been the best change in Scottish Football for a good number of years. It also gives variety, in a league structure that has none. I’d rather see the top 2 go through but I’m in favour of the league stages 👍🏻 Reply |
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