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Topic: Charlie Kirk (D)
21. Author:  Bamba-Daft        
Date: Thu 11th Sep 2025. 10:37

red-star-par, Wed 10 Sep 23:25

I had never heard of the guy before. Spent a couple of minutes reading some of his views and some of the things that he`s been quoted as saying, and it seems I`ve not missed out on much, comes across as a bit of a dick. I`m of the opinion that words are only words, nothing anyone says can offend or hurt me, but I do see that some people can get really uptight about words, and so coming out with some of the nonsense he spouted, in a country so full of gun-toting crazy folk as America, is a bit like putting a target on yourself.
At the end of the day no one should be killed for speaking, but on the other hand, actual nice people are getting killed for no reason at all as well.
On balance, looks like he was simply asking for it, and it`s no great loss anyway


Spent a couple minutes looking into a guy you’ve never heard of and deciding him being murdered infront of his wife and kids was no great loss and he was asking for it. What an utter cretin you are.

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22. Author:  desparado        
Date: Thu 11th Sep 2025. 10:54

If killing someone’s who’s political views you disagree with is your answer then anarchy will be the result. It could easily become tit for tat and there are more than enough well armed Americans to cause anarchy.

Being able to speak your mind is a right we should all have in a so called free country, although some of the words emanating from the mouths of certain people could easily be seen as inflammatory.

Look at the state the UK is in whereby people opposing genocide are being arrested. Scots in favour of independence being labelled “ Separatists “ by UK Gov ministers no less….

If Farage and his cronies get elected into government then we could quite easily see the UK slide into anarchy, after all what starts off in the US usually finds its way to these shores. Far right, racist politics becoming the norm is just one example. Farage and Boris the clown take/took their lead from the mad Trumpian. It’s not going to end well.

What an opportunity we missed in 2014.

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23. Author:  NMCmassive        
Date: Thu 11th Sep 2025. 11:14

Who knows what the further implications will be. I don’t think there’s going to be much positive though. I really hope this isn’t going to be tit for tat but I don’t think Trump has it in his arsenal to calm everyone down. He should have done more in the aftermath of the June murders of the two democrats. Hopefully Trump proves us all wrong.

Off the top of my head, I can’t think of any other political commentators being assassinated? Numerous politicians but a political commentators/influencer. I think this is the first one 🤷🏻‍♂️

COYP

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24. Author:  red-star-par        
Date: Thu 11th Sep 2025. 11:15

Bamba-Daft, Thu 11 Sept 10:37

red-star-par, Wed 10 Sep 23:25

I had never heard of the guy before. Spent a couple of minutes reading some of his views and some of the things that he`s been quoted as saying, and it seems I`ve not missed out on much, comes across as a bit of a dick. I`m of the opinion that words are only words, nothing anyone says can offend or hurt me, but I do see that some people can get really uptight about words, and so coming out with some of the nonsense he spouted, in a country so full of gun-toting crazy folk as America, is a bit like putting a target on yourself.
At the end of the day no one should be killed for speaking, but on the other hand, actual nice people are getting killed for no reason at all as well.
On balance, looks like he was simply asking for it, and it`s no great loss anyway


Spent a couple minutes looking into a guy you’ve never heard of and deciding him being murdered infront of his wife and kids was no great loss and he was asking for it. What an utter cretin you are.


Yes, last night I only had time for a quick search, today I wasted some more of my time reading about him, shouldn`t have bothered, his views weren`t really worth considering- sexist, homophobic, racist, transphobic, what seemed like bizarre fantasies about whipping and shooting at immigrants and wanting executions televised live and sponsored by Coca-Cola, advocating the death penalty for Joe Biden, the violent rhetoric which he was peddling, stoking hatred, his pro-gun stance and lack of empathy for the victims of school shootings.
Empathy is a weakness.

As I said earlier, no great loss

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25. Author:  Dandy Warhol        
Date: Thu 11th Sep 2025. 11:22

The original "shooter" now released.

I don`t wanna go down like disco.

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26. Author:  Rusty Shackleford        
Date: Thu 11th Sep 2025. 12:29

It`s obviously horrendous what happened and should be condemned in the strongest possible way.

No-one should be gunned down for simply expressing views or indeed just existing and going about their daily lives.

However, I`m not going to mourn for someone I didn`t know and for someone who expressed so clearly that victims of gun violence were an acceptable trade off for the right to bear arms. If you think the video of Charlie Kirk being murdered was horrendous (and it was) then close your eyes and have a thought experiment to yourself for the kind of utter heartbreaking brutality that happens in scores and scores of schools in the USA each and every year.

Lastly, all the worst people in the world are out in force - including the leader of the "free world" - and are manipulating this horrendous incident for their own gain.

Really worrying times for the world. For the first time in a long time I fear for the immediate future.



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27. Author:  Skerla        
Date: Thu 11th Sep 2025. 12:54

“Honestly, you’ve got to be some kind of low life to come onto a thread about someone you apparently know nothing about only to call him names and say he was asking for it after he was murdered in front of his daughters”

The 10 year old daughter he said he would make her have her rapists baby?

Guys a scumbag, no great loss at all.



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28. Author:  buffy        
Date: Thu 11th Sep 2025. 13:36

He wasn’t assassinated. He didn’t hold any political office of any kind.

”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”

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29. Author:  NMCmassive        
Date: Thu 11th Sep 2025. 13:48

buffy, Thu 11 Sep 13:36

He wasn’t assassinated. He didn’t hold any political office of any kind.


You should Google the definition of assassination

COYP

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30. Author:  NMCmassive        
Date: Thu 11th Sep 2025. 13:51

Skerla, Thu 11 Sep 12:54

“Honestly, you’ve got to be some kind of low life to come onto a thread about someone you apparently know nothing about only to call him names and say he was asking for it after he was murdered in front of his daughters”

The 10 year old daughter he said he would make her have her rapists baby?

Guys a scumbag, no great loss at all.


Guy was a Christian so lived Christian beliefs.
Anyway, you’re saying it like it’s justified and then calling him a scumbag…

COYP

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31. Author:  NMCmassive        
Date: Thu 11th Sep 2025. 14:00

red-star-par, Thu 11 Sep 11:15

Bamba-Daft, Thu 11 Sept 10:37

red-star-par, Wed 10 Sep 23:25

I had never heard of the guy before. Spent a couple of minutes reading some of his views and some of the things that he`s been quoted as saying, and it seems I`ve not missed out on much, comes across as a bit of a dick. I`m of the opinion that words are only words, nothing anyone says can offend or hurt me, but I do see that some people can get really uptight about words, and so coming out with some of the nonsense he spouted, in a country so full of gun-toting crazy folk as America, is a bit like putting a target on yourself.
At the end of the day no one should be killed for speaking, but on the other hand, actual nice people are getting killed for no reason at all as well.
On balance, looks like he was simply asking for it, and it`s no great loss anyway


Spent a couple minutes looking into a guy you’ve never heard of and deciding him being murdered infront of his wife and kids was no great loss and he was asking for it. What an utter cretin you are.


Yes, last night I only had time for a quick search, today I wasted some more of my time reading about him, shouldn`t have bothered, his views weren`t really worth considering- sexist, homophobic, racist, transphobic, what seemed like bizarre fantasies about whipping and shooting at immigrants and wanting executions televised live and sponsored by Coca-Cola, advocating the death penalty for Joe Biden, the violent rhetoric which he was peddling, stoking hatred, his pro-gun stance and lack of empathy for the victims of school shootings.
Empathy is a weakness.

As I said earlier, no great loss


Empathy is weakness? As in game of thrones?? Jesus Christ on a bike.

You do realise you’ve just done what you’re accusing him of doing? What are you even trying to say?

I’ll be honest, I don’t think you’ve actually thought it through.

COYP

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32. Author:  buffy        
Date: Thu 11th Sep 2025. 14:16

I don’t need to Google the meaning, thanks.

Until the shooter is arrested no one actually knows why it happened. Assumptions don’t help anyone. His family have enough to deal with at this moment and their faith will prevail, as my reading of his background it’s clear that the church was a big part of his life.

”Buffy’s Buns are the finest in Fife”, J. Spence 2019”

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33. Author:  TAFKA_Super_Petrie        
Date: Thu 11th Sep 2025. 14:41



You don`t just impulsively decide to kill someone at a public event from a considerable distance with a high calibre weapon, of course it`s an assassination.

Can`t help think of his kids and that clip which, unfortunately, they will inevatibly see at some point in their lives even unintentionally.

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[b]"People always talk about Ronaldinho and magic, but I didn't see him today. I saw Henrik Larsson; that's where the magic was."[/b]


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34. Author:  Wotsit        
Date: Thu 11th Sep 2025. 14:46

He is sleeping in a bed of his own making.

The enemy travels by private jet, not by dinghy.

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35. Author:  jake89        
Date: Thu 11th Sep 2025. 14:57

NMCmassive, Thu 11 Sept 13:51

Skerla, Thu 11 Sep 12:54

“Honestly, you’ve got to be some kind of low life to come onto a thread about someone you apparently know nothing about only to call him names and say he was asking for it after he was murdered in front of his daughters”

The 10 year old daughter he said he would make her have her rapists baby?

Guys a scumbag, no great loss at all.


Guy was a Christian so lived Christian beliefs.
Anyway, you’re saying it like it’s justified and then calling him a scumbag…


Sorry to be a pedant, but he lived HIS IDEA OF Christian beliefs. You didn`t see him kicking up a fuss about poly-cotton clothing when that is in the Bible as something you shouldn`t wear. He simply picked out the bits that fit his narrative and used Christianity as the justification.

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36. Author:  NMCmassive        
Date: Thu 11th Sep 2025. 15:02

jake89, Thu 11 Sep 14:57

NMCmassive, Thu 11 Sept 13:51

Skerla, Thu 11 Sep 12:54

“Honestly, you’ve got to be some kind of low life to come onto a thread about someone you apparently know nothing about only to call him names and say he was asking for it after he was murdered in front of his daughters”

The 10 year old daughter he said he would make her have her rapists baby?

Guys a scumbag, no great loss at all.


Guy was a Christian so lived Christian beliefs.
Anyway, you’re saying it like it’s justified and then calling him a scumbag…


Sorry to be a pedant, but he lived HIS IDEA OF Christian beliefs. You didn`t see him kicking up a fuss about poly-cotton clothing when that is in the Bible as something you shouldn`t wear. He simply picked out the bits that fit his narrative and used Christianity as the justification.


🤷🏻‍♂️

COYP

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37. Author:  SusieQ        
Date: Thu 11th Sep 2025. 15:08

Welcome to Trump`s America!

Not even a year in and there`s been all sorts of abhorrent crap going on.

Never mind - only another 3 years to go ...........


COME ON YE PARS!


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38. Author:  desparado        
Date: Thu 11th Sep 2025. 15:09

You have to wonder why Police cannot fly drones around political events especially over roof tops where a gunman would have a clear line of fire.

Very strange and very lax, considering the history of political assassinations in the US…

What an opportunity we missed in 2014.

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39. Author:  Bletchley_Par        
Date: Thu 11th Sep 2025. 15:11

picked out the bits that fit his narrative and used Christianity as the justification.


Dearie me.

So when someone tells you who they are, believe them, unless their shirt has some polyester in it.



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40. Author:  Playup_Pompey        
Date: Thu 11th Sep 2025. 15:19

wouldnt be surprised if he was a "high profile" fall guy aimed at stirring up left vs right anamosity and tensions across the country. High enough profile to make him an understandable target without being an official role holder etc that takes things to a higher level. Trump rolling himself out on a unicorn to save the day and MAGA in the follow on period.



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